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Apple Working on External Display With Built-In A13 Chip
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A monitor w/ a chip like that sounds extremely doubtful. An Apple TV or a new iMac?
Pro Display XDR is awesome having it, but it’s ultimately a prosumer device. Not sure the value of an Apple display smaller than 32” with its 6K resolution + sustained 1000nits is splendid as is.
The 27-32” at resolutions less than 6K for 218+ PPI & etc doesn’t seem appealing at all with that being less than great alongside other Apple hardware with external displays outside the iMac that is for budget/everyday folk.
Pro Display XDR is awesome having it, but it’s ultimately a prosumer device. Not sure the value of an Apple display smaller than 32” with its 6K resolution + sustained 1000nits is splendid as is.
The 27-32” at resolutions less than 6K for 218+ PPI & etc doesn’t seem appealing at all with that being less than great alongside other Apple hardware with external displays outside the iMac that is for budget/everyday folk.
Yesthis looks very 16:9 please make that 16:10 at least (better 4:3 or 3:2)
Yes! But we also don't want A13, Give us 27 inch 4-5K LED or OLED with a "G1" GPU for about 1000-1500$, if Apple can't match the price, just skip the GPU
Exactly!
This is not just a new external display (obviously). What is the point? (stay tuned . . . )
Could we get a straightforward display, too? Please? I'm still hoping that the rumors a few months ago about a matching display for the new iMacs will show up, hopefully with the 27" replacement.
But I don't want to pay 2x the cost of an iMac just to get a new one plus some super duper display!
So let me get this straight. Put a non replaceable GPU into a device with an average performance lifespan of 2-3X the GPU.
Why would anyone ever want this? In two to three years when the eGPU part is laughably slow in comparison to whatever is shipping, you replace your otherwise perfectly good monitor?
Why would anyone ever want this? In two to three years when the eGPU part is laughably slow in comparison to whatever is shipping, you replace your otherwise perfectly good monitor?
"Having a CPU/GPU built into the external display could help Macs deliver high-resolution graphics without using all the resources of the computer's internal chip. Apple could also combine the power of the display SoC with the Mac's SoC to provide even more performance for running intensive graphic tasks."
Sorry. Why would anyone ever want this? This reads like it was written by a school kid who has no idea where the system interfaces between computer and monitor were traditional and why you do it that way.
Sorry. Why would anyone ever want this? This reads like it was written by a school kid who has no idea where the system interfaces between computer and monitor were traditional and why you do it that way.
...well, the original idea of the Mac Mini was a "cheap" Mac for people who already had a display or who wanted to buy a cheap one. "Bring your own keyboard and display" was the motto - and the Cinema displays could never be accused of being cheap. In terms of cost, if you wanted a premium Apple display (in 1440p when that was new, later in 5k) then the 27" iMac has always been a no-brainer - a major reason for considering a Mac Mini is if you don't want an iMac-style display.
Ultimately, the reason for Apple dropping the Cinema display is most likely that they weren't selling well - by that time there were plenty of nice 1440p displays on the market at a fraction of the price.
...and gained an iMac customer, so I doubt they're crying into their beer.
I do sympathise with the idea of keeping a display longer than the computer, but if I bought a display "for the ages" it wouldn't be Apple unless they totally change their design philosophy. The cheapo Del 4k I have alongside my iMac has DisplayPort, Mini Display Port and 2xHDMI so I can use it with my old Apple TV or Amazon Fire, a Chromecast, a Raspberry Pi, my 2011 MBP... All the Apple Displays have just featured one of Apple's current favourite port (so a captive MiniDP cable for the 27" Cinema Display, Thunderbolt 1 for the Thunderbolt display pr 1xTB3 for the obviously-made-to-apple-specs LG Ultrafine). That seriously limits their uses in the future.
In my case, I'm waiting to see if there's a new M1X/M2/whatever Mac Mini so I don't have to get another iMac - but part of the point of that would be to get a non-Apple display (I'm thinking of a pair of ~24" 4k displays rather than one large 27").
this looks very 16:9 please make that 16:10 at least (better 4:3 or 3:2)
Being a desktop monitor. You could just rotate it to portrait. Then you'll have 10:16 or 9:16. Which is perfect for most websites, documents and frankly most photos people take now.
Apple really needs to produce an affordable line like the Apple Cinema displays. Those were excellent.
I think whatever the chip they use, it doesn't do anything about the performance. They just need a chip to control the monitor's resolution, HDR, dimming zone, and more. Normally, monitors require many different chips to control every single features but since Apple can make their own, they can just use their own chip instead of buying other chips from somewhere else. So, A13 or newer one won't gonna work as a eGPU, they just want a chip to control a monitor's features and setting.
Both of my CinemaDisplay monitors broke: The interface did not work after rebooting and I had to plug and unplug the cable to my MacMini about 20 times until the monitor worked again. Also connected to other computers the same damage pattern.
In both cases it was probably a defective capacitor on the circuit board.
Since these monitors are no longer available in working condition on EBAY (only defective), I suspect it was a design flaw of the board. Since Apple has discontinued this display series, almost all MacMini users will now probably use third-party monitors, even those who actually always found it pleasant to have had a fancy Apple monitor with camera and speakers. Presumably, the number of people who felt able to spend a few hundred dollars more to not buy an arbitrary monitor w/o camera and speakers was too small.
What's so 'pretty nice' about that? What does such HarmonyOS thing simplify in everyday life? Can you explain that to me?
If these were the ones produced during the G5 iMac era. They could've been plagued by bad capacitors too. Although as some models go back 20+ years. That's a lot of time for any capacitor to hold up for. I'm pretty sure even the Nichicon and Panasonic caps in the 68K Macs were failing by the 20 year mark.
Wish list. 1) A 24" monitor to perfectly match the new M1 iMacs priced in the $600-700 range. 2) A 27-32" to match whatever size the new "big" iMac is. 3) A "high end" version of number 2 with the eGPU.
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Fully agree. The lifespan was OK, but the successor was missing.
Why a neural engine in a monitor? What advantage do you see in implementing this in the monitor?
Put an M series chip in it? Then add a couple of USB-C ports to it and Apple may be onto a new product!
If this rumor (nothing more than a rumor) is true, it would seem Apple is looking to market a monitor that is a full interop device. They'd put the lesser cost A chip on board to achieve that interop that differentiates the offering for Apple users. An M1 would increase cost and being this is assuminly a focused consumer segment product (only for specific Apple desktop users), the cost will already be higher than mass produced monitor X. Adding the M1 would give it even more sticker shock.
M1 is already chip.Put an M series chip in it? Then add a couple of USB-C ports to it and Apple may be onto a new product!
If this rumor (nothing more than a rumor) is true, it would seem Apple is looking to market a monitor that is a full interop device. They'd put the lesser cost A chip on board to achieve that interop that differentiates the offering for Apple users. An M1 would increase cost and being this is assuminly a focused consumer segment product (only for specific Apple desktop users), the cost will already be higher than mass produced monitor X. Adding the M1 would give it even more sticker shock.
The day the Apple Glasses are available, there will be no more monitors (they will be superimposed on the field of view). Perhaps 9to5Mac has confused something here. Because when the glasses are there, the structure interfaces will of course be rearranged.