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Would be interesting to know how Apple and the banks plan to make any money from this. Credit card payments have a few % fee built into the price, but giving someone £10 in cash or via bank transfer is free - can't see many people paying to make it a bit easier (in the UK at least)

Here's my take:

- Apple make money because this service increases the value in their products. More people will want an iPhone if this feature is available.
- Similarly for the banks, more people will want to invest their money in a bank that allows them to utilise these types of interactions. It's the same reason why banks created EFTPOS and built ATM machines. These services don't directly benefit the banks, but it adds value by improving the experience for their customers -- making them more enticing and separating them from their competitors.
 
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It'll be interesting. Chase Quickpay is amazing and happens for free and instantly, no waiting days for it to arrive to the other person. Only problem is that you have to be a Chase customer
 
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A lot of retailers really, really hate Visa and MasterCard. What if this direct transfer service is another way to neuter their opposition to enabling NFC on their terminals?

Bank transfers are free and instant anyway.

Not in the US.

It'll be interesting. Chase Quickpay is amazing and happens for free and instantly, no waiting days for it to arrive to the other person. Only problem is that you have to be a Chase customer

It works with a few other banks too but it takes a couple of days to transfer.
 
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i love how Apple copied Google Wallet.

I love how Apple made it work!

Would be interesting to know how Apple and the banks plan to make any money from this. Credit card payments have a few % fee built into the price, but giving someone £10 in cash or via bank transfer is free - can't see many people paying to make it a bit easier (in the UK at least)


Most banks have a similar service to send money to friends. The banks don't charge for this and ultimately save money because they are not paying a transaction cost that come from other services. Apple may just do it for free as well to build the iPhone / apple pay aspect of this
 
It'll be interesting. Chase Quickpay is amazing and happens for free and instantly, no waiting days for it to arrive to the other person. Only problem is that you have to be a Chase customer

Only 1 party needs to be a Chase customer. Assuming the other party is not using a partner bank, they can set up a log in and provide their banking details for a direct deposit after verification.
 
This was always the obvious next step. Square is in trouble.

Maybe, but Square is also cross-platform and does a lot more than simply accept peer to peer payments. If I can only send money to friends with iPhones, then why bother when I already use Square Cash that everyone can use?
 
I think it's great that Apple dropped Paypal credit from their accepted payment methods, for what it looks like to come up with their own service.

Paypal is outdated.

-They don't have chipped cards.
-They take a slice of the pie for each transaction.
-They charge high interest rates.
-They take 3-5 days to simply transfer money from one bank to the other.

I didn't realize it was 1993 still.

Every payment service like PayPal, Square, Shopify, etc takes a percentage of each transaction. That's how they make money.
 
Every payment service like PayPal, Square, Shopify, etc takes a percentage of each transaction. That's how they make money.

I emphasize 1,3, and 4 mostly. I mentioned 2 because Apple could possibly provide this service for free. But I won't hold my breath because Tim the Penny Pincher is the CEO of Apple now.
 
This was always the obvious next step. Square is in trouble.
Square will get less transaction per sure, but this doesn't look to be a direct competitor.

Square is all about handling non-cash transaction (magnetic stripe, EMV, NFC) and software for managing inventory, restaurant, etc.
 
Maybe, but Square is also cross-platform and does a lot more than simply accept peer to peer payments. If I can only send money to friends with iPhones, then why bother when I already use Square Cash that everyone can use?

The key to the whole thing will be that it is built into your devices out-of-the-box. There are a lot of apps out there today that can do this, but they'll never get the share of mind that something installed by default gets.

It will be just like Apple Pay in a retail environment. People will prefer to use it, but if they have to resort to getting out a credit card they'll do what they have to. It doesn't mean they stop using Apple Pay altogether because some places don't support it.
 
Sorry this is a bit off topic but do you guys see your Walgreens points total on your wallet card like is pictured in this story? I have the card but never see a points total on it like I do my other cards.

As for this story, I would be happy to use my Apple Pay to send money to people. It would be great to send a few bucks when I don't have cash with me and they just paid for something on my behalf.
 
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I emphasize 1,3, and 4 mostly. I mentioned 2 because Apple could possibly provide this service for free. But I won't hold my breath because Tim the Penny Pincher is the CEO of Apple now.

If Apple was able to negotiate a per transaction fee directly from the banks for Apple Pay transactions I see no reason why this wouldn't be free as well.
 
I'm not paying someone because they have an iOS device, I'm paying someone because I owe them money.

If this is a hit and miss scenario (works with some, with others not) I'll be tempted to just use whatever works with whoever I see, mostly that's cash or maybe even Paypal - device-agnostic. (desktop browser works too if all else fails)

Glassed Silver:mac

You can say the same for all Apple-only service and yet they're all successful. The iOS user base is huge and we're all very engaged in our phones.
 
I think it's great that Apple dropped Paypal credit from their accepted payment methods, for what it looks like to come up with their own service.

Paypal is outdated.

-They don't have chipped cards.
-They take a slice of the pie for each transaction.
-They charge high interest rates.
-They take 3-5 days to simply transfer money from one bank to the other.

I didn't realize it was 1993 still.

Chipped cards aren't required until the end of next year and they've been proven to be no more secure than normal cards.

Apple takes a piece of every transaction too. That's their entire reason for creating Apple Pay. They get a processing fee every single time.

The 3-5 day transfer time PayPal requires isn't their fault, it's your banks and it's mandated by the US government.
 
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