So am I.
It reminds me of when the FCC instituted Universal Access, so that phone lines could be used for modems or FAXes or voice, and BellSouth started charging us for that.
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It reminds me of when the FCC instituted Universal Access, so that phone lines could be used for modems or FAXes or voice, and BellSouth started charging us for that.
I would pay $0.50 yes. Or 99¢. But not for ad based apps like google products. Service apps yes.
It's like Apple partly owns your iPhone not so much the Mac. This battle is about ownership I'm free to download an IPA or any app of my choosing that is outside of the App Store just like I download a dmg or .pkg from the Internet.
But that's not how I like it! I want them to do it MY way and I will cry and b!tch until I get what I want (even though I can already get it somewhere else). I'm also the same person that says "FIGHT THE POWER" then ironically sides with the monopolistic power of unelected regulatory bodies to over regulate.
the EU needs to stop passing IDIOTIC laws that damage their own people.
OR come up with a phone and platform that doesn't completely suck.
Apple built from whole cloth desirable phones, an App Store, a distribution system at quite a bit of expense and doesn't charge anything for free apps. It's impressive in any reasonable person's eyes. The datacenters and bandwidth alone is mammoth.
So far the EU is really only great at passing draconian laws.
(whereas in the US we can't seem to get our government to remove their collective heads from their rear, but I digress)
OR come up with a phone and platform that doesn't completely suck.
Apple built from whole cloth desirable phones, an App Store, a distribution system at quite a bit of expense and doesn't charge anything for free apps. It's impressive in any reasonable person's eyes. The datacenters and bandwidth alone is mammoth.
So far the EU is really only great at passing draconian laws.
(whereas in the US we can't seem to get our government to remove their collective heads from their rear, but I digress)
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This is why the apple car was cancelled, couldn't figure out a way to get a percentage of tires and after market parts sold outside of apple stores.
Many devs would love to not impinge upon any of Apples datacenters or bandwidth
Apple won't LET THEM
That is part of the problem
Free! Free! Free!
Everything Apple provides should be FREE!
Now where’s the EU version of the a FREE developer platform reaching billions of devices?
That’s right, the EU has RULES not tech 😂
Everything Apple provides should be FREE!
Now where’s the EU version of the a FREE developer platform reaching billions of devices?
That’s right, the EU has RULES not tech 😂
“But if Apple would just bend over and take it everything would be fine!” seems to be the majority opinion on this website.
I’d love to see any of these forum users run a business as big as Apple and then be ok with getting pushed around after they’ve successfully run the App Store for however many years it’s been around.
This whole situation is a disaster. I honestly don’t know what Apple should do. China isn’t even this difficult to deal with and that’s saying something.
A successful extortion business that has been RAKING in cash
Let's stop with the "oh poor Apple" routine
And you think this is worse than working with China?
Are you joking?
China can tell Apple to do basically anything
There'd be no back and forth
Bu..bu..but we can’t COMPETE unless you give it to us FREE, Apple 😭
Sad what the mommy state has turned some posters on this message board into 😳
Sad what the mommy state has turned some posters on this message board into 😳
the $99 is a token amount to keep load down on issuing certs, it's not about offsetting costs as much as it is about rate limiting, the developer access is a loss leader for the platform. It isnt subsidized by app sales, it's subsidized by people buying Apple gear at all. Without developers and an app ecosystem the platform fails. A $999 fee would be a death sentence, it would never happen.
Maybe the EU can create a rule that would force their companies to INNOVATE and COMPETE, and make them pay fines if they fail (which, well…😬).
If a Nintendo emulator goes viral and starts making money I don’t think it’s Apple the developer will have to contend with. Nintendo will come knocking “it’s a me, Mario .”
Why should people pay to use XCode and local ios apis? You don't pay a penny when you use Android Studio, android sdk, emulators and publish apk on your website or third party store.
99$/year should remain for those who want to have a developer account in the App Store, their dev services and make money by selling applications there. Apple killed non-commercial development on its platform with this fee.
They shouldn't!
Apple needs the third party developers to sell their massively profitable devices!
It’s called business. The goal is to make as big of a profit as possible. You should try it sometime.
You want to sell in my store? You pay rent. Go to another store if you don’t like it. Spoiler: they all charge rent.
Greed occurs on both sides: developers want to keep as much of their earnings
as possible; Apple wants to maximize App Store commissions. One side isn’t more morally superior than the other. It’s just business.
If companies really found the App Store to be a loss, they’d simply leave and tell Apple to go * themselves. That’s not the case here. They want to tell Apple off and still benefit from its platform.
Aka: the big greedy companies (Spotify and Epic) want to increase their margins.
It has absolutely nothing to do with benefiting the consumer or whatever nonsense people cook up.
Margins will get wider, price will stay the same (or go up due to “inflation”) and quality of the external apps will most likely go down and have security implications that we have yet to discover.
I’m done arguing with you.
So many things wrong with this. Against the policies that he signed, arguably illegal content he was pushing, and the enterprise certificate is strictly for employees of a company only. No outside or no employees are allowed to download that app.
Emulators are not illegal - this has been well established
I have an app I released for free on Google play store. No big deal. I wanted the app and it was good learning experience. I paid $35(?) one time dev fee
The app was made with cross platform tool and I could've built it for the app store. Didn't do it because I didn't want to pay $100 a year to release a free app and xcode looks like a nightmare. I guess I could've charged for it but I didn't want to turn it into another job
The app was made with cross platform tool and I could've built it for the app store. Didn't do it because I didn't want to pay $100 a year to release a free app and xcode looks like a nightmare. I guess I could've charged for it but I didn't want to turn it into another job
Only in unrestrained capitalism (the USA).
That's not the way it works in Europe.
Because there are only two players, which the EU has deemed to be not enough competition
There’s nowhere to actually “go” while running a viable cross platform business, which is a requirement for a large swath of App companies. Many can’t just “not be on iOS”
This is the issue the DMA was specifically created for
With respect, you’re missing sort of the key point of the DMA
I really encourage you to listen to John Siracusa on ATP talk about this.
Show of hands:
How many EU posters here are actual developers and plan to sign up for the new EU only developer agreement?
Anyone? Anyone?
How many EU posters here are actual developers and plan to sign up for the new EU only developer agreement?
Anyone? Anyone?