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I was previously against opening iOS up. But more recently see this as the right move. Apple threatening to ban twitter was the obvious example where Apple proved themselves as nothing but a greedy censor. Yes sure they back-pedaled quickly on that... because they realized how ugly it looked. Does not mean it wont happen again in the future.
I am 100% against side loading but this is the first actual argument I find at all compelling. Apple can prevent apps for "political" reasons not policy reasons and side loading could prevent that. I guess now 98% against side loading but that is one problem worth thinking about.
 
And once all the "scam stores" hit, people simply won't use them anymore. Or...well, you know what it means when you're fooled twice...
Exactly. I only download software directly from Microsoft. If it's not in the Microsoft Store, I won't use it.

Last week I needed some software for work that could only be downloaded from outside the MS Store. So I quit my job. My family is now homeless and we had to eat our dog, but I just wasn't willing to risk it. I don't want a virus on my PC!
 
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I am 100% against side loading but this is the first actual argument I find at all compelling. Apple can prevent apps for "political" reasons not policy reasons and side loading could prevent that. I guess now 98% against side loading but that is one problem worth thinking about.
Are you against sideloading on your Mac? Do you find that your Mac "sucks" because you can download the software that *you* choose?
 
It's interesting…the more Apple moves towards jailbreaking features that have been available for years, the more people shy away from it.

Cydia has been a third party app store for years, with a payment system and vetted repos (repositories). There are now other third party app stores for jailbreaking that do the same thing and have been around for a while as well.

Apple's been robbing jailbreak developers blind for years, taking their ideas, hiring them away and putting out stuff that's weak tea compared to the JB tweak or app. I have no doubt they'll find a way to monetize this as well.
Like I said the other day, Apple is a company built on the theft/ Sherlocking of others IP
 
and lucky for you, you won't have to - but those that want to, will be able to - its a win-win.
We will all have too. AS someone here pointed out at some point you will come in contact with some system, app for school/work/whatever, that will be required for your normal life and require side loading. It will eventually impact everyone but technical hermits. People who promote side loading need to be honest and take that into their calculations.
 
Look on the bright side , at least now your bank can force you to install an app with a back door for easy access for the 3 letters.
HAHAH I can’t say this with straight face, XD.
THIS IS GOOD, I know for a fact antivirus, and firewalls will start being what they advertised themselves to be on the AppStore.
but I will not install anything that is not from the AppStore for personal and work devices.
however gaming and media consumption on older devices will be out the garden walking around while spinning it’s keys.
 
Not even close, IMO… Mac apps allow you to change the core functionality of the OS and other features.

This will still be extremely watered down compared to what’s currently capable on Mac.

I will defer to Dr. Malcolm

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We will all have too. AS someone here pointed out at some point you will come in contact with some system, app for school/work/whatever, that will be required for your normal life and require side loading. It will eventually impact everyone but technical hermits. People who promote side loading need to be honest and take that into their calculations.
I hate to ruin your world of unicorns and rainbows but this is already the case. Many large corporations have policies that involve installing custom profiles and third party software for corporate security and compliance. Strangely enough, everything has been fine.
 
Exactly. I only download software directly from Microsoft. If it's not in the Microsoft Store, I won't use it.

Last week I needed some software for work that could only be downloaded from outside the MS Store. So I quit my job. My family is now homeless and we had to eat out dog, but I just wasn't willing to risk it. I don't want a virus on my PC!

Why were you stupid enough to put WORK SOFTWARE on your HOME computer? See how easily your man made of straw got torn apart?
 
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Sorry, I’m too young/uncultured to get and appreciate the reference.

However, I still disagree. If a sideloaded app is able to make changes to the core OS and functionality — THAT’s basically a jailbreak. In which, whomever figured out how to do that should sell the exploit to Apple, legally, for a hefty payout.

macOS simply has much less guardrails compared to iOS. Allowing sideloading would hardly change that, IMO.
 
Can you guarantee that? I haven't seen the draft legislation, but if it doesn't say app vendors must sell the same app through the native App Store that they sell through alternate stores, I'm pretty sure you can't.

You don't think there will be a Microsoft store? An Adobe store?

If microsoft made a boot camp for my iPad or M2 mac I would be the first in line to give them money.. I already give Adobe money so I don't care how I get their apps.
 
macOS simply has much less guardrails compared to iOS. Allowing sideloading would hardly change that, IMO.

If Apple would have imposed a limit on how many apps can be sideloaded, this wouldn't be a severe issue. Kids can have their Fortnite and adults can have that site that rhymes with Corn Hub.
 
Of that paragraph, you’re going to pull out the word security and exclude everything else so you can tee up an irrelevant Franklin quote? I’m not taking that detour…
It's literally your argument. You took the road, and this is where it goes.
 
Emulators are usually the first thing I see mentioned from average users when it comes to sideloading. I’d imagine it’s one of the top use cases (if not THE top use case) for most average users who want sideloading available.

I do have a crazy conspiracy though: I think Nintendo and Apple are in cahoots in some fashion in regard to their opposition to sideloading and emulators. The Delta emulator essentially decimates Nintendo’s $20 and $50 tiers for their online service — as far as retro game accessibility goes.

Perhaps by bringing easy emulation to all platforms, it may force Nintendo’s hand to re-release games that aren’t literally 20+ years-old to their online service. Instead, they squeeze out like one or two decades-old games per month, like a broken peepee, as subscribers anxiously wait underneath to get just a drop of legally-offered Nintendo nostalgia. I’m pretty sure the Wii had a bigger retro catalog than Switch. It’s pathetic, and I think Apple enables them to do it.
Average users have no idea what emulators even are.
 
If this could pave the way for Gamepass (and maybe PSN+?), I would be mad at that part…
 
Do I have a problem with the current app store being a closed system? No. But does Apple deserve a 30% cut and complete control for managing such an app store? Also no.

In the end it's really going to depend on how those alternative app stores will be implemented whether this is a good development or not.

Also, we've been able to install third party apps on MacOS forever, and that does not generate any problems either. I think Apple will find a good way to set this up.
 
I wonder if Apple will also be forced to allow apps to make in-app purchases cheaper for people who sideloaded the app, because Apple does not get a 30% cut in that case. The EU will probably also forbid Apple to threaten banning an app from the official app store, if an app can also be sideloaded. Otherwise Apple could still pressure developers not to allow their app to be sideloaded. If the EU goes so far, Apples app business will be severely damaged. How many people would use the official app store, if they could get the same app cheaper from another trusted source?
 
Sorry, I’m too young/uncultured to get and appreciate the reference.

However, I still disagree. If a sideloaded app is able to make changes to the core OS and functionality — THAT’s basically a jailbreak. In which, whomever figured out how to do that should sell the exploit to Apple, legally, for a hefty payout.

macOS simply has much less guardrails compared to iOS. Allowing sideloading would hardly change that, IMO.
You're too young for Jurassic Park/World?
 
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