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Apple Working to Boost iCloud Integration with Preview and TextEdit Document Viewer Apps for iOS 8
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Agreed. At the very least, the last thing I want is a dedicated viewer for TextEdit stuff. It should be integrated with Preview if this is the case.
I get that the 5GB limit is a bit small, but everyone here realizes there's a slew of files that DON'T count against this 5GB limit.
-photos
-documents in Pages
-powerpoints in Keynote
-spreadsheets in Numbers
-iTunes purchased music
-iBooks purchased books
That 5GB limit hurts with regards to device backups, but as far as saving data in the cloud, if you're invested in the ecosystem you almost have an unlimited amount of space.
I agree with upping the ante though. Also making iCloud.com more robust and offering more visibility to how things are saved, what things are counting against you and more options for control over said files and security features.
Anyone else think Preview and TextEdit apps foreshadow better pdf/file attachment for emails? Similar to how you can attach multiple photos and vids from the camera roll - same type of implementation. That would be extremely welcome IMO.
-photos
-documents in Pages
-powerpoints in Keynote
-spreadsheets in Numbers
-iTunes purchased music
-iBooks purchased books
That 5GB limit hurts with regards to device backups, but as far as saving data in the cloud, if you're invested in the ecosystem you almost have an unlimited amount of space.
I agree with upping the ante though. Also making iCloud.com more robust and offering more visibility to how things are saved, what things are counting against you and more options for control over said files and security features.
Anyone else think Preview and TextEdit apps foreshadow better pdf/file attachment for emails? Similar to how you can attach multiple photos and vids from the camera roll - same type of implementation. That would be extremely welcome IMO.
Until it fails, the company goes under, or you need sensitive items stored.
Cloud storage/computing is a fad, nothing more nothing less.
I've paid for an 10 GB extra with my 64GB iPad and 64GB iPhone and it's barely enough with me turning off backup for some apps. At least 95% of this is just backups, not additional documents (or maybe we should get more for documents?).
With the premium that they charge for more iOS storage, $100 for the first 16GB and $100 for the next 32GB (but they manage to give you an extra 64GB for only another $100 on the 128GB iPad), it seems like they could toss in a bit more extra iCloud space. I keep a lot of manuals and books on my iPad, but instead I'm backing them up to Box.net instead of automatically with iCloud.
Even if they just made extra iCloud space free for 3 years (so people don't abuse it by keeping some old iPod touches lying around around) that would work for me.
Gary
I want to push the up button on your post 100s of times. That dialog is the worst thing ever invented (in the scope of using applications on OSX). It makes the whole computer feel 5 years slower, and it's never what I actually want to do, meaning that slowness I suffered through was completely useless to me and counterproductive to what I wanted to do.
Every application that uses that dialog is worse off for it. It especially frustrates me in Pixelmator. I specifically leave a useless file open at all times just so that when I tab into Pixelmator I can immediately use it (typically to paste image data from my clipboard) without first being blocked by that dialog. It is a barrier to productivity.
I did realize this with my iPurchases but I did not realize it with my iWord documents.
When you say photos, do you mean my camera roll, my iCloud photos or my synced (via iTunes) photos? I know I just messed with my iPhone camera, I finally synced and deleted photos from camera roll and stopped syncing a big photo album and I saved a bit of space (but not all I hoped).
it's the backups that are killing me.
If backups stopped counting, I'd probably use iCould more for iMovie and other things (and maybe see it's worth it to pay more).
But I'm still going o stick with my thoughts that larger memory iDevices should get more iCloud storage for free (for the first several years).
Gary
If TextEdit is a viewer only, it should be called TextViewer, shouldn't it? This is an instance where the customers would be confused.
This is a strawman argument. You have no idea whether or not CrashPlan uses coal to power their services, and Apple doesn't provide a way for me to upload 3TB of data as a backup.
Right - so I think the confusion lies in how everything is laid out. Which I think Apple could do a better job of.
So there's iCloud as a means of keeping all your devices in sync. From that perspective, all your Apple stuff (the files I mentioned above) are essentially "free". You don't pay Apple for that syncing and saving.
The 5GB that we all talk about pertains to iCloud backups of iOS devices. If you look at your device, most of us have a lot more than 5GB of data/media on our devices. My biggest backup is roughly 3.5GB. Now as to what is included in that, there is SOME confusion - basically I feel like my photos count twice sometimes if they are in my camera roll AND in my photo stream.
Anyways - Apple could certainly do a better job defining iCloud's roles and giving users more management tools and more storage space to work with. But as a service which syncs and saves documents and files across your devices, we all already get a lot of "free" space when using Apple apps/media.
in OSX, System Preferences>iCloud>Manage, I see my iWorks' documents taking up space.
Well it's pretty obvious you don't know anything about iTools or Dot Mac because it was not only the same as DropBox in how you store things but it was great at syncing Apple devices. So Apple knows what they are doing when it comes to cloud storage. With iCloud they are just taking a new direction, it's certainly no "hobby".
If you have no app that relies on iCloud document syncing, just turn this bit off and all the apps will revert to their 10.6-style behaviour (e.g. TextEdit opens a new window). When I do actually want to save something to the cloud, I just use Dropbox.
It really doesn't matter where the encryption keys are held, as long as the data is on their server, it is their property, not yours and they can do whatever they see fit with it (including giving full warrantless access to anyone who wants it). But that doesn't even address the biggest problem with Cloud files: internet connections aren't perfect, period. If you are in an area or building with limited connectivity, no computing for you.
I think you mean photostream photos. I am pretty sure photos in the camera roll count against your storage. Also that is all the photos you can back up. You cannot delete your photos out of either photo stream or the camera roll and keep them in the cloud like other cloud providers.
Yes, very true. Once again I agree but they can't dedicate the iCloud unlimited storage to just iOS devices. The Mac is tied up into that whole ecosystem. Speaking of pissing off customers, haha. If Apple were to dedicate the unlimited storage to iOS and not the Mac...whew I'd be scared to see the outrage. I need it. I've been using Apple cloud storage on my Mac long before any iOS device ever existed. That was when it was called iTools and it was completely free with plenty of storage.
I really can't see Apple just simply releasing a Preview and TextEdit app because they just have no connection to iOS other than to allow for a porthole to view docs saved in those two apps on iCloud. But it's utterly confusing to consumers who don't have Macs. The better solution would be to somehow combine Preview/TextEdit/iWorks into one seamless experience.
Thanks, I thought it would be a simple checkbox in iCloud preferences and wasn't disappointed! Whew, I'm glad that UI mess is over for the foreseeable future.
