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Apple Working to Boost iCloud Integration with Preview and TextEdit Document Viewer Apps for iOS 8

What's the difference between 'Textedit' and 'Notes', guys? Thanks.
 
Why TextEdit? It's an entirely useless application. It's a text editor (which most people don't need in the first place - most people need a word processor) which is very inferior to competitors like Sublime, which is available for free. Or, since most of the time when you're editing text, you're actually dealing with code, you aught to use an actual IDE, such as Xcode which is also free, or Eclipse (or IntelliJ IDEA), which is, you guessed it, also free.
 
Instead of two separate teams with one focusing on iOS and the other dedicated to OS X, Federighi has merged the teams so the same group of developers work on both the iOS and OS X versions.
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That's great, now just hire more engineers instead of moving them from OS X to iOS development as has been the case since iOS development in 2006. Before the "too many cooks in the kitchen" or "more doesn't mean better" comments, less certainly hasn't benefited Apple OS X since 10.7. At least 10.6 was delayed and not rushed out on an annual release cycle, Serlet took his time even when Jobs moved OS X engineers to iOS for the iPhone launch, and 10.6 is still the most solid OS X build to date.
 
Sky Blue said:
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I presume the TextEdit/Preview icons are temporary until the monkey that makes the iOS 7 icon is free.
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I just caught that, so wrong lol.

This all seems interesting conjecture. I would rather have Notes revamped to a more robust app akin to TextEdit, and not introduce more apps that could do the same.
 
Meh. The weird "slio" file management system of iCloud feels really counterintuitive to me. Still using Dropbox as a de facto file system in iOS.
 
No, no, no.

How about a legitimate file system for iOS? You know, where you can open and save files on the device you are working on? Like you can do on a real computer? I think if Apple is banking on this being the next stage of computing, they might want to consider how people actually work.
 
this icrap (iCloud) is totally crap...they probably pushing this to make people buy extra space for iCloud.
 
Agreed, insanely stupid on Apples part.

TimWillz said:
Personally I'm really happy preview is coming to iOS (if it is). As a student it is a real pain that iBooks does not sync uploaded PDF's across all my devices.
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I'm not sure what the problem with Apple is lately when it comes to half baked apps. The only reason to really want iBooks on a Mac is to sync PDFs collected from random places. I have no desire to read literature on my Mac, technical documents yes, Shakespeare no.
 
therealoracle said:
ICloud with no folders is no good and no real use for me.
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No browser either. In fact little of iCloud works for me well at all. The sync of contacts and calendars works most of the time but the whole iCloud concept is useless for the creation and storage of documents. Especially documents that may be messages by more than one app.
 
jrswizzle said:
Now as to what is included in that, there is SOME confusion - basically I feel like my photos count twice sometimes if they are in my camera roll AND in my photo stream.

Anyways - Apple could certainly do a better job defining iCloud's roles and giving users more management tools and more storage space to work with. But as a service which syncs and saves documents and files across your devices, we all already get a lot of "free" space when using Apple apps/media.
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I emptied my camera rolls on my iPad and my iPhone (which had a lot on the iPhone). They both should have the same photo streamS synced to them. But I sync more photo albums to the iPhone than the iPad and the iPhone seems to take more space in the "photos" backup category.

If Apple gave me more free iCloud space for my non-purchased media (iMovie! iOS iPhoto?) I'd be thrilled, but for giving us free iWork I'd have to guess most customers don't have huge amounts of storage of iWork documents (and even then, the huge ones are probably Keynote, right? but still a small percentage).
 
Riemann Zeta said:
It really doesn't matter where the encryption keys are held, as long as the data is on their server, it is their property, not yours and they can do whatever they see fit with it (including giving full warrantless access to anyone who wants it). But that doesn't even address the biggest problem with Cloud files: internet connections aren't perfect, period. If you are in an area or building with limited connectivity, no computing for you.
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Raising my hand here as a example. The many feet of concrete that the building I work in, effectively screens out cell phone connectivity. As iCloud is currently set up, especially with iOS apps, it simply is useless. Apple really needs to work on how local and cloud storage is handled on these devices.

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Dr. Weezil said:
No, no, no.

How about a legitimate file system for iOS? You know, where you can open and save files on the device you are working on? Like you can do on a real computer? I think if Apple is banking on this being the next stage of computing, they might want to consider how people actually work.
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Forward this to Cook would you. For people who really want to work on documents iCloud is useless. Further on iOS devices the inability to manipulate documents locally means that the the devices are largely viewers of documents.
 
Fresh Pie said:
I sincerely hate how iCloud file saving has been handled on the Mac so far. It defaults all of the standard applications' saving locations to iCloud, and then I have to drop the full dialog down with the arrow to search for the location I actually want (admittedly, it sometimes shows up in the recents just under the iCloud option).

On a semi-related note, the dialog the pops up when you first launch Textedit sucks! It increases the amount of time the application takes to open, and it adds steps between launching the app from spotlight and entering text. I've switched to Sublime but will be looking for fixes.

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EDIT: If anybody else hates this, read this reply to my post!
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Agreed.

I turned of icloud documents because of this. I like to be able to open and save text edit really quickly -- time sensitive note taking mostly. Or just jotting down a note. It is for use when formatting is of no importance whatsoever.
 
wiz329 said:
Agreed.

I turned of icloud documents because of this. I like to be able to open and save text edit really quickly -- time sensitive note taking mostly. Or just jotting down a note. It is for use when formatting is of no importance whatsoever.
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I'm embarassed to say.... I honestly have no idea what iCloud documents actually does.
 
I have no idea why people are suggesting to merge Notes and TextEdit.
They are definitely two different apps with different purposes. Do you think that these apps have the same uses on OSx..?

I agree that there's not a lot of use in making a TextEdit app with no editing capabilities because thats the whole idea behind this app. surely if it will be a viewer only, there's no reason why Preview won't be able to show text files.

As a Mac and iPhone user like many others here, i was very surprised to see that no one mentioned that Preview in OSx is not only a Pdf viewer or a Pdf light editor app. it has a lot of purposes and uses other then showing or editing Pdfs.

I Think that if Apple are indeed bringing Preview to the iOS, they have serious thinking to do about other apps, iOSwise or OSxwise.
Preview on the Mac is an app for everything (well, almost everything...), not just Pdf. making it a Pdf only viewer is a bit weird and confusing.
If they will use it to sync Pdf files (which is blessed, that was a major flaw in the Apple ecosystem in my opinion...) and only Pdf files, what will happen to all other Preview OSx associated files? why won't they sync too...? what about pictures?
but in the iOS the pics belong to the Photos app...

As i said, a lot of questions should be answered before releasing Preview for iOS.

On the other hand, i do rely on Apple to finally release Preview and seriously upgrade my daily workflow. Everything else in the Apple ecosystem works so magically for me that every addition to the seamless Mac-iPhone-iPad connection is just wonderful. With Pdf sync across my devices my life would be so much easier.

I understand people are mad because they can't control anything in the iCloud syncing process but why do you care so much..?
it just freaking works!

you have all your calendars, contacts, notes, reminders, messages, pictures, etc, taken care of for you!

I don't know about you guys, but i'm still amazed that adding a note on my Mac will appear on my iPhone after a few seconds...
 
William Gates said:
No joke. 5 free GB of storage for 2 macs, an iPhone, and an iPad is not conducive to a good user experience. I bought 10 extra GB, but I'm pushing the limits on that storage space. And the absolute most you can get is 55 GB? Is this 2005? Where is my unlimited option?
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Unlimited plans are so 2007.
 
wizard said:
No browser either. In fact little of iCloud works for me well at all. The sync of contacts and calendars works most of the time but the whole iCloud concept is useless for the creation and storage of documents. Especially documents that may be messages by more than one app.
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I've not really taken advantage of iCloud, and I can definitely see how the flat storage of files will really only work if you have a couple, that if you have many it would be unwieldy.

Imagine this, though, that instead of iOS implementing a folder structure in their file system (as well as in iCloud), imagine instead they implement the Tags feature like in OS X, so you organise files rather than by physical location (either on the disk or in folders) by utilising Tags and proper tagging of files.

I think that Tags is one of those stealth features that when implemented and used more widely will be quite revolutionary. People don't care *where* they stored things, only that they can easily retrieve them, and let's face it, storing them in folders or directories is really just a legacy tether to the old days. A new paradigm is needed, that much is quite obvious.
 
CarlosQG said:
What's the difference between 'Textedit' and 'Notes', guys? Thanks.
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Isn't Notes just for taking short notes, but TextEdit allows you to apply formatting/numbering as well ?

Like of like WordPad on Windows..



I use TextEdit all the time on Mac laptop.. Why would it be useless on mobile device ? Look at like like a very, very stripped down version of MS Office on iOS.
 
If I can annotate, sign and highlight PDFs with Preview and sync my documents with iCloud, I'd be a very happy chap. Not sure why I would use Textedit though, they should turbocharge the Notes app instead.
 
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