Good to see Apple giving business to a company known for its ENGINEERING, not a company that's basically a giant legal department.
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Apple Working With Intel on 5G Hardware for Future iPhones
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This is what concerns me. Why strip out features because you think carriers aren't going to use them. It's like how they throttle the Qualcomm modem now and don't have 4x4 MIMO and stuff. T-mo has those technologies, let me use them.
Nope. 5G is vastly more complex.
Firstly it requires RF black magic, testing, working with telcos, testing, compliance to wireless standards, testing, chip design, more testing.
Their other innovations were closed-loop and they didn't need to spend years getting through red-tape as well as years of internal testing. It's a massive undertaking but I'm sure Apple are speculating what the next tech after 5G will be.
I'm sure they'll bring it in-house one day. Probably when they have it neatly packaged up in their SOC and can therefore just buy the IP or division from Intel.
Edit. IOS is software and in a different realm. It has been worked on for over 10 years in a never ending development.
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I would also like more information.
I agree 4g is fast, but can be improved upon. I can not be the only one who remembers everybody getting up in arms about the original iPhone not having 3g? We are all getting old...
Apple have obviously considered this option. They wisely decided not to do it.
Clearly you don't know how complex a modem is.
What kind of emojis would they have in the pipeline that requires so much power?
They still have to use Qualcomm patents to make a phone that uses CDMA tech.
Can someone who actually works in EE explain if having “multiple thousands” of people working on a problem like this makes the work go faster?
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“Thousands of people” working on this? When we designed high end microprocessors we typically had 50-100 for a fresh design.
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I’m sure they are. They also need to resolve the IP issues with Qualcomm.
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I’m sure they are. They also need to resolve the IP issues with Qualcomm.
I expect patents are a major stumbling block. Apple would have to "clean room" reverse-engineer the technology and that could take many years. And then when they are done, they'll still be sued left and right by Qualcomm and Intel for patent infringement to make sure they did really create their own technology and that will then embroil them in even more years of legal tangles.
Far easier to just pay the people who already have the technology developed.
No. I can’t even imagine what so many people would even be doing.
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People who chose their phones based on minor peak wireless bandwidth are not apple’s kind of customers.
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If they can save 10 percent power and dedicate a few extra mm to battery and all they have to give up is some feature that is only used by a carrier in Belarus, I say go for it.
how much better can I get than Verizon
Better question is how much faster are you getting with Verizon for the amount you pay, Half a second, 1/4 of a second? I'll enjoy my $35 a month with 5 GB after all taxes and fees thank you ... my extended family has four lines and pays nearly $400 for Verizon and they complain about it all the time, hope you're happy though
Yeah. Not my area of expertise but I simply couldn’t imagine how “multiple 1000s” of people would be required or even effective at addressing something like this. Unless there are a lot of specialized people checking wafers and then shuttling them to and fro so the eggheads can stay chained in their cubes.
After a certain point, more people tend to just slow things down.
Why does it matter? It will still be able to run on 4g networks either way.
Downloading a Youtube video 100 times faster means your phone spends 1/100th the time with its modem and associated amplifiers, etc powered on, saving you significant battery life. It also frees up the cellular channel 100 times faster, meaning you're less likely to be queued or speed-constrained in the first place.
I don't think Apple has the patents to actually build a cellular modem chip. I would think it would cost more that way.
Being in-house has allot of benefits... no delays for one, which we've always seen after announcements..
Agreed, more capacity is good. But is that what "5G" systems are there to accomplish? Sounds to me it's more about the wireless transmission speed. Sure the hardline backbone will have to be increased to accommodate the increase in speed, but if it's just increased in equal proportion, it's not really going to help solve the bandwidth bottlenecks.