What's with all the people saying the iPhone will be released in July? There has been no evidence for that. In the past year, Schiller said the normal life-cycle of the iPhone is for a June release. I don't know how anyone figures July fits into the picture other than last year when it was July.
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Apple Wraps Up Push Notification Testing Ahead of WWDC
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Nope.
Without the advertising support of companies like Microsoft, Sprint and Palm, we wouldn't have this place.
Kind of sad that we never see Apple or ATT ads. Or have I missed those?
Sooner than Expected!
with the 3.0 being wrapped up and the iPhone 3G reaching the end of product life cycle (i.e. no more to best buy) I wouldn't be surprised if on the last day of WWDC that Steve himself would make an appearance to introduce the 3rd gen iPhone with the relaese this month maybe??
....Hopefully
with the 3.0 being wrapped up and the iPhone 3G reaching the end of product life cycle (i.e. no more to best buy) I wouldn't be surprised if on the last day of WWDC that Steve himself would make an appearance to introduce the 3rd gen iPhone with the relaese this month maybe??
....Hopefully I'm starting to let the possibility of 3.0 sooner than 3rd gen iPhone with the release of iTunes 8.2 to public, but then I thought of another 8.2 release reason. To break the Pre sync less than a week before it comes out.
So I'm going back to 3.0 / 3rd gen coming on the same day.
So I got to thinking.... bear with me here.
Last year with the introduction of the SDK and 2.0 with the App Store was probably a huge project for Apple to take on. They had to overhaul the system to make use of third party app installs and code signing and all that crap. I'm thinking that 3.0 may be ready earlier this year because they already have the base system running pretty smooth and they're just basically adding on features or enabling features. Maybe the 2.x-3.0 transition is turning out to be easier than 1.x-2.x. Anyone with me?
I believe the Pre still syncs with iTunes 8.2 and I heard that Apple even created an icon for the Pre. Anyone wanna back this up for me?
Last year with the introduction of the SDK and 2.0 with the App Store was probably a huge project for Apple to take on. They had to overhaul the system to make use of third party app installs and code signing and all that crap. I'm thinking that 3.0 may be ready earlier this year because they already have the base system running pretty smooth and they're just basically adding on features or enabling features. Maybe the 2.x-3.0 transition is turning out to be easier than 1.x-2.x. Anyone with me?
I believe the Pre still syncs with iTunes 8.2 and I heard that Apple even created an icon for the Pre. Anyone wanna back this up for me?
Why would a company pay to market to people who
1. Are already obsessed with Apple
and
2. Forced into AT&T as a carrier because they are obsessed with Apple?
Just saying, Marketing 101 here. You have to market to people who are most likely using your competitors product, not your own product. Would Apple benefit from paid ads on this site? People watch their ads for fun (and free) on this site!!
I don't know squat about how online advertising works, but I'd bet the farm that the ads weren't placed directly by Palm. Probably 3rd party, targeted advertising by Google or something similar.
Any marketing people out there care to comment?
Wow really? Where did you hear this? From everything I've read Pre did this without Apple's consent by tricking iTunes into think it was an iPod.
Check out John Gruber's wrap of all the Pre sync stuff for more info:
http://daringfireball.net/2009/06/webos_itunes_integration
Maybe Apple wants to deliver a one-two punch to its would-be competitor(s)? Perhaps they'll drop OS 3.0 on existing iPhone/Touch users next week and then roll out the new iPhone model(s) at the end of the month/early July?
It's all speculation at this point, though it would guarantee Apple two bites at the news cycle.
It's all speculation at this point, though it would guarantee Apple two bites at the news cycle.
I am really looking forward to push notification. It's been a LONG wait.. Hopefully it (3.0 OS) will be released BEFORE the new iPhone and won't have as many problems as the 2.0 did last year. I HATED the keyboard lag.
My suspicion, is that they will anounce the new phone at wwdc, but it won't be available immeadiately.
Its just to quite , when the iphone 3g came out last year, there were leaks by now, also releases on the att plans and upgrades.
WWDC is just around the corner , and nothing.
And no hint other than what we find in the sdk ourselfs as to the new functionality.
I'm sorry I just don't see it happening.
Here's what I'm expecting.
os 3.0 ga, Seems like the last beta version is more like a release candidate .
Demo of new phone???? release schedule.. July ,, August, more likey july.
Snow Leporad
Its just to quite , when the iphone 3g came out last year, there were leaks by now, also releases on the att plans and upgrades.
WWDC is just around the corner , and nothing.
And no hint other than what we find in the sdk ourselfs as to the new functionality.
I'm sorry I just don't see it happening.
Here's what I'm expecting.
os 3.0 ga, Seems like the last beta version is more like a release candidate .
Demo of new phone???? release schedule.. July ,, August, more likey july.
Snow Leporad
I'm pretty sure we're done with betas. I'd love to eat my words on this one, but the likelyhood of getting seeded anything else is very slim, according to other threads, beta 5 doesn't expire until the 19th. The trend is that it expires a week after something else is released. So....
Yeah, and that went over SO well last year.
DOUBT IT!
I'm pretty sure they learned that you can't release everything on the same day.
Last year on July 10-11 they released:
iTunes 7.7 (with support for 2.0)
App Store
MobileMe updater for OS X
MobileMe
iPhone 3g
2.0 Software for iPhone 3g, iPhone, and iPod Touch
There were tons of app crashes, server crashes (MobileMe and activation), and tons of headaches (Apple Logo of Death anyone?). Apps took sometimes 10 minutes to install, the keyboard was sometimes unusable, especially in the SMS app, Contacts was so laggy, and the iPhone would reboot itself randomly several times in an hour.
I know not all of these problems can be planned for in advance, but last year's pile of releases was too much. They have already broken from last year's release by sending out iTunes early, which is compatible with 3.0. They are also testing their servers in advance this year so that the whole thing doesn't come crashing down when 3.0 rolls down the pipe. They are taking a lot more precautions this year, and one of those is probably "beta testing" the public with 3.0 on existing hardware for a month or so before iPhone 3rd gen comes out. It will probably be a lot more stable than 2.0--they've learned a lot since then and have optimized memory management, etc. But if there is a problem, they can patch an update to be ready. I'm not sure how able they are to update software on iPhones in production or sitting in warehouses, but at least it could be available for launch when they activate in iTunes.
Plus I REALLY want 3.0 before my honeymoon on the 14th. We're taking a long road trip and turn by turn GPS would be great. Hopefully TOM-TOM (or similar) is finished by then. Maybe they will be demoed at WWDC?
Well I know for a fact that Apple works closely with several websites directly for marketing. Did you ever see the ad they put on Yahoo Games for the iPod Touch? It tilted the whole web page and elements within it fell apart as it was being played. Surely they have to work closely with them to deliver that type of advertising that is so personalized.
This year it will be iPhone 3G Pro (or whatever they call it) and 3.0 software. iTunes is already out there and ready for download now, MobileMe is already up and running, App Store just getting minor updates with 3.0 software.
So it seems even more logical that they do it at the same time this year. Plus I don't remember any problems with people updating their 1st gen iPhones to 2.0, it was more with 3.0 people trying to activate their phone.
These were just problems with the actual software, not with too much load on servers or anything.
Don't count on having by then.
WWDC: release of iPhone 3.0 software. Partly so they can stagger the launch and sort out any problems, partly to keep the mobs at bay until they announce iPhone 3 hardware. Also has the desirable effect of double the hype.
Later: iPhone 3 hardware announced later and separately, late June/July. Shipping that week.
Just one of many possible ways this could pan out.
Later: iPhone 3 hardware announced later and separately, late June/July. Shipping that week.
Just one of many possible ways this could pan out.
Yeah, but that was Apple advertising one of their products on Yahoo (a search engine). That's hardly the same as Palm advertising the Pre on MacRumors.
Again, I don't know squat about advertising and you might be 100% correct. Just doesn't make sense (at least to me) that Palm would run out and advertise on individual sites. I would think they'd leave the targeted advertising to companies that know how to to it way better than they could themselves.
Does anyone have any actual hard data saying that iTunes 8.2 breaks Pre sync because I have seen nothing other than the usual people talking out of the rear.