Kwood,
Neither of those boxes were with the iPod. It was in a plastic bag.
Don't worry, I also hate it when people don't read posts clearly, especially the first one in the thread.
Your post contained two complaints directed toward Apple:
1. Broken out of the box;
2. Long time for refund.
However, the first likely was the fault of Amazon, not Apple
What makes this "likely the fault of Amazon". That's bs, and complete opinion. "Likely"??? In fact, I'd be more inclined to think that it was Apple's fault. It's hard to break a MacBook when it's in its box, even if you dropped or banged it. Look at how it's boxed up.
Opened my new MacBook up 8 days ago, so I do remember exactly how well it was packaged. It was also my 2nd MacBook, because the first one was incredibly faulty and was essentially a lemon. It was likely the delivery-man's fault.....anyone but Apple's.
And this "vertically integrated" stuff is also bs. Apple uses couriers. It's not as though the delivery companies Apple uses are way better than the ones used by Amazon. When Apple ships to a place like Toronto, it goes through 2 different delivery companies, neither of which are related to Apple in any way (other than Apple being a customer of theirs). Isn't that similar to an Apple --> Amazon --> US customer (ie: multiple drop-off) delivery?
So much for "vertical integration".
Also, Apple doesn't build computers...... again, no "vertical integration." The computers are just assembled using computer parts made by other companies. None of these parts were made or designed by Apple, but were created by many different companies. Then, these parts are assembled in a case to make a computer.......in Taiwan and China......by a company that makes computers for many other companies.
If you consider this "vertically integrated", then sure, every computer company is vertically integrated.
2 out 2 Amazon macbooks were bad. 2 out of 2 Apple direct macbooks were good. You do the math.
Ever do statistics? Two Amazon computers means jack. Lots of people receive perfect Apple computers from Amazon.