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I think the point is to re-focus the MBA back to what it was supposed be - an ultra lightweight portable device. Over the years it's morphed into their "consumer" laptop instead. It doesn't make sense to have a 13" MBA and 13" MBP essentially competing with each other.

Presumably having re-focussed the MBA they'll make the MBPs more of a consumer/pro hybrid affordable to all rather than just a pro device. Hopefully they'll upgrade the MBPs to 14" and 16".

So instead of 11,13, 15, Apple will roll out 12,14,16....

Even the odds.

Very interesting .....
 
Yep, viewed in isolation, these design changes seem irksome and don't really make sense. But, viewed in the context of Apple's entire laptop/tablet product line, the changes make more sense.

You make a good point about retina. If this new MBA gets a retina screen how is it much different from the 13" rMBP? What's the point of having a rMBA and rMBP that are almost the same?
 
Most people's take on this is daft. They don't seem to get through their heads that portability and cost are really important for a lot of people.

If you want something bigger with more ports, then go buy a bigger laptop, there are plenty of options.

This machine is for people who want portability and affordability. People who realise that iPads are a joke for getting the sort of work done that you can do on a desktop, but don't want to lug around stuff.

It's funny that there are lots of people who use their phone as their main machine, but you don't hear them whining about the lack of ports, because they really don't need them.
 
That said; if you add retina to the MBA and the rMBP continues to get lighter and thinner, these two devices are headed toward convergence. Pretty soon, it will be pointless to have both models.

I think this is quite right. The irritation is that for me, and I guess many others, the MBA is fine as my primary computer, with an external display. If the new MBAs are less capable, to differentiate them from the MBP range, I am stuck with needing to get a MPB, and it is far less portable. (I have a 13" MPB from work, and it is a heavy brick compared with my 11" MBA). For me, my 11" MBA is the perfect compromise of size and performance. It looks like I will be forced to go to something less perfect in one direction or the other, and that's a shame.
 
I think this is quite right. The irritation is that for me, and I guess many others, the MBA is fine as my primary computer, with an external display. If the new MBAs are less capable, to differentiate them from the MBP range, I am stuck with needing to get a MPB, and it is far less portable. (I have a 13" MPB from work, and it is a heavy brick compared with my 11" MBA). For me, my 11" MBA is the perfect compromise of size and performance. It looks like I will be forced to go to something less perfect in one direction or the other, and that's a shame.

I fear the differentiation is only going to get greater. Apple's not stupid. Why do you think they've haven't come out with a retina MBA?

They have always been about making you choose a product based on your current needs. And should your needs change, upgrade and buy something else.
 
No...I remember THIS:

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Apple's FIRST Subnotebook!!!


I owned 2 Duo with Dock (230 & 280) and my fav Apple laptop of all time in term of form factor. It just worked well for ma as a road warrior!

After slugging around Apple portable, 100 & 140 PB, this was as light as a feather.

I could make the 12" work with a dock and monitor no problem.
 
I hope they don't get rid of so many ports. Two USB ports please, especially if one will be used for charging.
 
Eh, I don't think so. Larger phones became popular because they could replace a tablet. Laptops are already viable desktop replacements, especially since they can hook up to an external display.
I hope you are right on this one. History tends to repeat itself. A few years ago, at some point we had giant HP laptops.

As for the placement of that power button... Oh boy... I can see myself hitting that by accident A LOT. (As would anyone who has been conditioned to hitting of the ESC button I think)
Thanks for pointing this out. I didn't notice the Power button before.

Placing it there would be a huge mistake! :eek::mad:
 
For people like yourself that want the ports, bells & whistles that's what the current MacBook's are for.

Yeah, like there's a lot of ports on the Pro models either. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Look at my 2008 MBP and the current ones and it's just ridiculous. I very rarely need any kind of hub or adapter on my 2008. I can plug in my audio FW400 devices, my FW800 hard drives, Ethernet connection when I'm docked and don't even need an adapter to use the DVI connection on my 28" monitor. With a USB3 card plugged into my expansion port (WTF is that on new Macs???), I even get two more USB(3!) ports without a hub for a total of four all on a computer that is PLENTY thin and not very heavy (unless you can't lift a whopping 5 pounds in which case I suggest a gym membership). I can even change out the battery if it gets low and not have to look for an outlet. You can't do that on any Mac anymore.

IMO, Mac design has gone down hill considerably. Retina was cute, but it's already behind the resolutions of other notebook makers and no longer amazing. Most computers now include touch screens too (because of Windows8) which Apple has no option for, even for use in Windows. They want you to buy adapters for everything, which you have to lug around, defeating the whole point of that extra portability. The screens are glossy as all heck, showing me not a Retina screen, but my own freaking reflection! (unlike the nice matte screen my 2008 model has and NO, making the interface all bright BLINDING WHITE doesn't solve that Yosemite!) I guess it's the reason I have not bought another Macbook since then as they started to go downhill shortly after 2008 with unibody designs that wouldn't let you change the battery, followed by wiping out the 17" model, etc.

I think Tim Cook sees little future for the Mac (the 'truck' idea Jobs pushed at desktops) and everything is an iPad/iPhone/watch. Sadly, I think this idea is mistaken. Mobile has its uses, but power should always be an option.
 
So it will only have one port, and that port will be used for charging. So basically, you can either charge, or you can use USB.

Let's see what Apple is thinking. Smart ways could be:

- providing additional ports built in the magsafe adapter;
- providing a mini-dock for free;

But it will probably be:

- not including the mini-dock, which will cost around $99;
- not including ports in the magsafe, but there will be a "magdock" available for just $149;
 
Where are the ports?!?!

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In a set of artist renditions, 9to5Mac offers a look at Apple's long-rumored 12-inch Retina MacBook Air. The renditions and details shared in the report are consistent with previous reports on the machine, although plans do sometimes change during the development process.

As previously described in rumors, the next MacBook Air will have roughly the same footprint as the current 11-inch model, but include a 12-inch display nestled inside narrower bezels. The machine's keyboard will also extend from edge to edge while the speakers move to a set of grilles above the keyboard.

ImageComparison of 12-inch Retina MacBook Air (left) with current 11-inch MacBook Air (right)
As part of Apple's effort to reduce the thickness of the MacBook Air, the new 12-inch model will do away with nearly all of the ports currently found on the machine, including the usual USB and MagSafe ports. Instead, the machine's sides will include only a headphone jack, a pair of microphones, and a USB Type-C port that appears set to handle both connectivity and charging.

Apple's new Retina MacBook Air is expected to run on new Broadwell Core M to allow for the thin, fanless design and perhaps come in multiple color options similar to the company's iPhone and iPad lineups. The machine has been rumored to be entering production as soon as this month, although it is unclear whether Apple may wait until its Worldwide Developers Conference in June to launch the device or introduce it earlier in the year.

Article Link: Apple's 12-Inch Retina MacBook Air Shown in Artist's Renditions

This is the biggest load of bollocks ever.

It is something someone in their basement has thought would be the 12" retina MBA.

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Keep in mind people...these are ARTIST'S RENDITIONS and not commissioned Product Photos from Apple, they are not official, they are mock-ups based on rumors alone, nothing confirmed here.

This x 1000.
 
They have always been about making you choose a product based on your current needs. And should your needs change, upgrade and buy something else.

What I am saying is that when I get my next Mac laptop, it is a shame it looks like I will either have to get something heavier and bulkier than my current machine (MBP), or lighter but less capable (the new MBA). The current design of the MBA is bang on for me, at least. I don't quite follow what you are saying above.
 
Just one fatal flaw:

Magsafe has been replaced by the USB Type C connector.

1) In effect, the MBA will lose the capability to protect itself in the event someone trips over the wires.

2) If the power brick is designed to be the "HUB" for other ancillaries to be connected to, the advantages of long battery life will be lost as the owner will need to bring the power brick everywhere he go in order to connect to more than one device. But that said, this HUB idea will be superb for someone who docks at home or in the office with a larger monitor.

Even if the move to Type C happens, i hope Apple includes at least 2 connectors onboard. Btw, I don't think losing the SDcard slot is a good idea too.
 
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As much as I'm looking forward to USB Type C, it would be a great shame if Apple did away with MagSafe. MagSafe has saved my MacBook from accidents countless times - it's truly smart tech.

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Even if the move to Type C happens, i hope Apple includes at least 2 connectors onboard. Btw, I don't think losing the SDcard slot is a good idea too.

In the 4 years or so that I've owned MacBooks with SD card slots, I think I've used it maybe twice ever.

SD made sense a few years ago. But with everything being able to sync wirelessly now, it's becoming completely unnecessary for most users.
 
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In the 4 years or so that I've owned MacBooks with SD card slots, I think I've used it maybe twice ever.

SD made sense a few years ago. But with everything being able to sync wirelessly now, it's becoming completely unnecessary for most users.
I can appreciate that you don't find much value in SD card slots, but how are you concluding that it is "becoming completely unnecessary for most users"?

For those who live exclusively with Apple devices, I can see how SD card use has dropped to virtually non-existent... but that perhaps has more to do with Apple's removal or refusal to include it in many of their mobile devices.

"You can't use what you don't have, you can't miss what you don't use."

That is of course Apple's modus operandi. They make a significant profit from their pricing structure of their mobile devices that are essentially only differentiated by storage capacity. Add support for a microSD card, and that will be a serious hit to their bottom line.

Personally, I would gladly pay a $100 premium for an iPad that included a microSD card slot over a comparable model without one.

After a few years of exclusive use of an iPhone and iPad, I had almost forgotten the usefulness of removable storage for mobile devices. Now that my primary phone is an Android device, and I've outgrown my iPad 4 and rely on a mix of iPad, Gtab Pro, and Windows Tab, the value of removable storage is once again evident for my use cases.
 
Apple's not stupid. Why do you think they've haven't come out with a retina MBA?

Apple has already come out with the retina MBA - - it's called the retina MacBook Pro.

The rMBP only weighs a half pound more than the same size MBA, and the reason for the extra weight is it needs a bigger battery to feed the higher res screen.

This is the whole reason that Apple is miniaturizing the MBA this year - - to provide some real differentiation between their two portable lines.


For me, my 11" MBA is the perfect compromise of size and performance. It looks like I will be forced to go to something less perfect in one direction or the other, and that's a shame.

Really?

You'll be unhappy with a 12" MBA with the same form factor as the current 11" MBA, except weighing half as much and being half as thick?

That is a shame.
 
In the 4 years or so that I've owned MacBooks with SD card slots, I think I've used it maybe twice ever.
SD made sense a few years ago. But with everything being able to sync wirelessly now, it's becoming completely unnecessary for most users.

2 of my DSLRs use SD cards (the other compact flash). That slot is used more than the USB ports on my MBP. They had better not do away with it.

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This is the whole reason that Apple is miniaturizing the MBA this year - - to provide some real differentiation between their two portable lines.

Apple has not said either way that they are doing this.
 
If I have my way, I would go even further and have a wireless battery charging system and this laptop will have only one port: the headphones jack.

Imagine the marketing campaign: "A brand new 12" laptop from Apple, with no string attached."

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Yes, yes, yes.

This would be completely consistent with Apple's penchant for cutting the fat and streamlining design. A passive charging pad instead of MagSafe would provide the same level of mishap protection (my late black lab's tail took out my beloved G3 Pismo years ago!) without necessitating MagSafe port space on the chassis.

FWIW, I have always loved expandability on a laptop. I have plugged nearly every port of my old MBP, including the ExpressCard slot, when using it as the center of a demo recording studio. For the "PRO" line, I would advocate MORE expandability, not less. But for the "Air" product line, the Jony Ive instinct to go thinner and simpler makes sense to me.

One should also keep in mind that flash storage is only going to increase in size and decrease in price over time. I think mission-critical docs will still remain on the user's device, where they can be accessed instantly without WiFi, and cloud-based storage will be used for archiving, back-up, and sharing projects. WiFi connection speeds won't prevent the average user from remaining productive.

"No strings attached." It already sounds like an Apple catch-phrase. 18 months after its release, the rest of the ultraportable PC world follow that ethic.
 
My worry about these rumours is… Do we still have a MacBook Air 11" ?

It's the only portable with 16:9 like all the desktops and not much bigger than an iPad 4 (curse you iPad Air). You don't need an iPad while the 11" Air is around. So much more capability for slightly more size/weight and in a lot of cases, not much more $.

AND if the 11" Air goes away, I sure don't want to have to buy this year's 30% slower model as refurb, just to get the last 11" Air.

This rumour has disaster written all over it for me, even before all the ports disappeared. That's just dumb. 2 USB ports is minimum for a computer that does any work.
 
In the 4 years or so that I've owned MacBooks with SD card slots, I think I've used it maybe twice ever.

SD made sense a few years ago. But with everything being able to sync wirelessly now, it's becoming completely unnecessary for most users.

Biggest use for SD slot on my MBA is for expanding the 256GB internal storage.

Given the release of 3rd party SDcards that seats flushed on Macs, you don't wanna miss that do you?
 
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