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Is anyone truly surprised by this news?

With Tim at the helm, not at all. For years they’ve been dishing out painfully incremental updates in form of full version numbers. And people have been happily buying, enabling that strategy even more.

One rant: No charger in box claiming environment. So, when you buy a new charger, do they just hand you one or does it come in a box with all paper manuals and leaflets and everything? Are we to understand that that waste is less than what is supposedly wasted by giving a charger in the box? Is the Apple-buying public truly that much of a fool?

If I want to buy a watch today, I must buy a charger separately if I am buying a watch for the first time. If I want to buy two watches, I need to buy two chargers today because I have never bought a watch before when chargers came along with. That’s wastage in my opinion. Of my money, of paper, of packaging, of logistics, of storage shelves, etc. The only thing that is helped here is Tim’s bottomline. Not the environment, certainly not the consumer.

The consumer and environment could be benefited in only one way - if people ask for a charger at the time of purchasing a new device, just give them one without any packaging whatsoever. If they ask for two, or if they come for another later, just buy as usual. That’s how you’d serve both environment’s and consumers’ interest, not the way Tim is doing. It only serves his and the company’s bottomline.
 
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There’s a big difference between “clinging to it” and “not being bothered by it”. Apple will move to USB on phones in a year or two; life is too short to be annoyed over things you have zero control over. Especially since MagSafe means you dont even need to bring a Lightning cable with you.
But then need to bring the MagSafe device instead... Plus, I need to bring a lightning cable for my AirPod Max headphones as well. Both of those would have been better off with USB-C.
 
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One rant: No charger in box claiming environment. So, when you buy a new charger, do they just hand you one or does it come in a box with all paper manuals and leaflets and everything? Are we to understand that that waste is less than what is supposedly wasted by giving a charger in the box? Is the Apple-buying public truly that much of a fool?

Looking at how many chargers I actually have, this is not a problem - and there is an environmental impact of producing all those chargers. Of course, if they had reduced the price correspondingly there would have been no issue at all... now it feels mostly like increasing the margins. In particular since they did it at the same time they changed from USB-A to USB-C for the bundled cables...

Now if they could only be compatible with themselves and the rest of the modern world as well and drop lightning...
 
But then need to bring the MagSafe device instead... Plus, I need to bring a lightning cable for my AirPod Max headphones as well. Both of those would have been better off with USB-C.
If you regularly travel with that many devices you need to bring multiple cables anyway so just keep one of each type in your travel bag.
 
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No. Oddly enough i sleep at night while traveling just like I do at home. I bought the MagSafe duo for its compact folding size making it easy to pack and then when I get to my hotel room I put it on the nightstand and charge my watch and phone overnight. Just like at home. Literally just this weekend I went away and used it with my new AW7 and iPhone 13 promax with no problems. Good thing I didn’t read macrumors then! Fast charging is a gimmick that can shorten battery life.
It seems like your use case has no need for fast charging. I find myself when traveling for business and especially for leisure, I am away from the hotel most of the time. Using the camera and GPS deplete the battery much quicker. Having the ability to top off quickly with fast charging makes it more convenient.
 
If you regularly travel with that many devices you need to bring multiple cables anyway so just keep one of each type in your travel bag.
It depends. I normally just bring two USB C cables to cover the laptop, phone, power bank, and wireless headphones. I find using USB C for all my electronics to be very convenient. My wife uses an iPhone, and it's really the only device that we have to bring a Lightning cable that cannot be shared with other USB C devices.
 
It depends. I normally just bring two USB C cables to cover the laptop, phone, power bank, and wireless headphones. I find using USB C for all my electronics to be very convenient. My wife uses an iPhone, and it's really the only device that we have to bring a Lightning cable that cannot be shared with other USB C devices.
Here's a $10 solution that lets you use the same cables on everything you bring.
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Wireless charging is a fraught technology. I don’t like adding complexity and flakiness to something that was already simple enough. Perhaps a magnetic iPad style smart connector would be better.
 


With the launch of the iPhone 12 models last year, Apple introduced a $129 MagSafe Duo Charger that's able to charge an iPhone and an Apple Watch at the same time, but it's unfortunately already outdated.

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The Apple Watch Series 7 has a new fast charging feature that requires an updated charging puck, and that means the Apple Watch Series 7 does not fast charge when connected to the MagSafe Duo as it uses a standard non-fast charge puck.

Apple confirmed that the MagSafe Duo is not able to fast charge an Apple Watch Series 7 in a support document updated this afternoon.Apple may have an updated version of the MagSafe Duo that supports Apple Watch fast charging coming in the future, but Apple Watch Series 7 owners who already own the current version will need to settle for standard charging speeds.

Article Link: Apple's $129 MagSafe Duo Charger Can't Fast Charge Apple Watch Series 7

This thing is overpriced anyway. Buy it only until it’s 50% off.
 
It seems like your use case has no need for fast charging. I find myself when traveling for business and especially for leisure, I am away from the hotel most of the time. Using the camera and GPS deplete the battery much quicker. Having the ability to top off quickly with fast charging makes it more convenient.

Wow, you have a hotel room but dont sleep there? Guess you use it to store your gear.

My AW7, really all my apple watches since AW0 have been able to go full day on a charge and this includes using cellular which takes a lot more than GPS. You use a camera on your Apple Watch? must be a third party feature.. .but I do use my watch to get my iPhone to take pics remote. Not a huge power draw. Still not seeing the issue, but great it is for you. You do realize fast charge is only 30% faster right? and 80% charge is reached in an hour regardless? Heck I get a decent charge boost when I shower. do you shower when you travel for leisure?

Just out of curiosity, do you own either the AW7 or Duo Charger or are you just voicing an opinion?
 
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