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Umm..no thanks. Id take windows 8 reasonably priced laptop over this garbage. Tim Cook, you are the beginning of the end! Watch out for Wild Bill. I cant wait to see windows 8 own this, completely. This will be I bet 2 grand! Rip apple, 2k7-2k11

I can understand the frustration. Easy solution. Get a job so you will be able to afford an Apple product like the rest of us.
 
Wow, some big spec hopes flying around on this thread - I think a lot of people are set to be disappointed.

A lot of the internal space in a 15" Air will surely be used for a battery capable of giving decent life to a 15" screen.

I'd be expecting a modest bump from the 13" Air and nothing more. That doesn't mean it won't be an awesome laptop, I'm sure it will, but something tells me they're not about to massacre the Pro line just yet.
 
let me guess what ports it will have
on the left:
magsafe, thunderbolt, usb(3.0), audio in, audio out
on the right:
2x usb, sd

bye ethernet, bye firewire(this will make many upset)

so i hope a 15" with the weight of the actual 13mpb, no odd, dedicated vga, upgradeable ram. no idea about the storage.
 
A thinner than MBP laptop would also mean no Ethernet port right?

From looking at my MBP's ports, it seems that the Ethernet port is the biggest port, and seems to be responsible for keeping the MB at its current thickness (apart from optical disc and HDD).

Edit: woops, sorry folks, meant optical disc, not blu-ray.. haha

There is a battery in there too. :D
 
So excited! The future of Apple notebooks as Jobs said. 2012 Apple kills the optical disk.

Hoping these features standard with the option to customise:
Ivy Bridge i5/i7
256 GB SSD
4GB Ram
1680 X 1050
A decent dedicated GPU
5-7 hour battery life

Ivy - Quite possible. If intel release a decent low power one. Up to intel here.
SSD - very possible as an optional extra if you want to pay for it.
4GB ram - quite possible as a standard thing. If Apple choose to do it.
Screen Res - very possible.
Dedicated gpu - I think it'll be dual gpu. Integrated one for 90% of your work and dedicated for the rest. And it'll swap when needed. But then you'll hit heat and noise issues and the fact sometimes the gpu's don't switch when needed.
5-7 hour battery - Not gonna happen if you use a lot of the dedicated gpu. But for mostly integrated gpu work that's possible.
 
They don't require power do they? Try feeding four 2.5" externals off that, or charge your phone. Sure, it could run eight mice fine. Are you an octopus?

My iPhone charges fine off of it. It's one of my devices. Actually, when I set down my laptop on my desk, I have : Mouse, Keyboard, iPhone, iPod, Wacom tablet, Printer and an External hard drive with no external power source.

All working fine off 1 port.
 
i'm seriously considering one of these 15" MBAs IF they manage to tame the fans and heat in these things.

please apple, stop being greedy and and make a laptop where the whole package is state of the art...not just a thin, fast laptop...but a quiet one for god's sake. pleeeaaase!
 
Photos can be backed up in online storage or in removable hard drive, no need for a superdrive for this...

Agree that optical drives have become a bit...old.

But I still burn backup of things that are not to large on them. I like the idea of having a backup that can't be overwritten or ereased.

Also have external harddrives I keep outside my house ( you could get burglars or a fire). I used to store it in a bank but keep backups with familymembers that I update every 2-3 months or so.


Storing personal photos, documents and photos in clouds? LOL! And no use in mocking me for being paranoid. Only idiots buy in to the cloud prophecy....


Anyway. I would not mind if I had a external optical drive. And I just remembered. Is it impossible to use a blueray writer with OSX?
 
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i'm seriously considering one of these 15" MBAs IF they manage to tame the fans and heat in these things.

please apple, stop being greedy and and make a laptop where the whole package is state of the art...not just a thin, fast laptop...but a quiet one for god's sake. pleeeaaase!

I guess 70 billion could afford them unicorns. :rolleyes:

Thin, Fast, Quiet. Pick 2. You'll always have to compromise when it comes to these things. Of course, as time goes by, less and less people need "Fast" (computers have been fast enough for quite a few tasks for quite a few years) as technology advances at a much more rapid rate than the actual tasks we use these for requires.
 
A thinner than MBP laptop would also mean no Ethernet port right?

From looking at my MBP's ports, it seems that the Ethernet port is the biggest port, and seems to be responsible for keeping the MB at its current thickness (apart from optical disc and HDD).

Edit: woops, sorry folks, meant optical disc, not blu-ray.. haha

They could make a new small port for that and then make a small (1 inch)dongle that converts to a normal RJ45 ethernet plug.

But, I don't think Apple will go that way, I think they could make a dongle to convert from the Thunderbolt to a RJ45 port.

Ethernet is still a port NOT to lose, its still very common in many places.
Hope Apple keep that port.

Edit: Oh yeah, there is still the USB to Ethernet converter sold by Apple, thanks JAT
 
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As for the hardware - I question what will happen with the Mac Pro now that the Thunderbolt pretty much has killed its reason for existence; the question is whether the pro-community can suck up their pride and get an iMac or whether they'll have this "real men own towers" attitude when it comes to owning computers. Yes, there are 'professionals' who make such statements - as if a 'tower' is more a 'real computer' than an all in one.

This just shows a lack of understanding here. It probably lessens the market that couldn't be served by an imac, but imacs are still an inherent compromise. You're locked out of the best hardware. The gpu power in case you do need it is mediocre. Expect that to run off thunderbolt? They aren't anticipating suitable bandwidth for years to run something like a gpu. The current Promise enclosure is much much much noisier than just running drives internally. The imac display is completely flawed for any kind of color grading or anything where color matters at all. Buying a spyder and profiling it won't help (LED backlit displays don't profile well at all).

There are so many areas where an imac is just an expensive compromise. It has the internal hardware of a $900 PC shoved behind a consumer grade display providing too much heat for flawless reliability. If pretty much anything down to your hard drive fails, it has to go in for service.

How is this anything but a compromise compared to what we have? A mac mini like device built up a bit for better hardware and port options would make a way better successor to such a machine.
 
what about when your clients need a disk?

You are probably young enough that you don't consider burning DVDs with irreplaceable family photos.

Or.. have a client that needs delivery of photos on site after an event.

I was thinking of buying a load of cheap USB keys and getting them branded.. but then think that I could just give them a 50 pence DVD.
 
Umm..no thanks. Id take windows 8 reasonably priced laptop over this garbage. Tim Cook, you are the beginning of the end! Watch out for Wild Bill. I cant wait to see windows 8 own this, completely. This will be I bet 2 grand! Rip apple, 2k7-2k11

Windows 8 is an operating system, not a piece of hardware.

If you were in the market for mid priced Windows 8 laptop, you probably shouldn't be looking at an Apple laptop anyway so that was a bit silly.

Like wise how can you call this 'garbage' when it isn't even released ? And please could you explain why all other manufacturers are clambering to get on the 'ultra thin and sleek metal' look after the Air has been such a success for Apple, and despite releasing these new alternatives they are 1, not really phasing apple's continued success with the MBA or 2, that much cheaper either.

If you invested as much time in putting thought into your post as you did posting this fecal explosion you call a post, everyone would be better off.
 
Buy a current MacBook Pro while you still can...

I can't see how they can make it thin and still keep the Ethernet and FW800 ports. Unless they include a free Thunderbolt display for docking purposes with every purchase then it's not a viable option for a lot of the current users.
 
Umm..no thanks. Id take windows 8 reasonably priced laptop over this garbage. Tim Cook, you are the beginning of the end! Watch out for Wild Bill. I cant wait to see windows 8 own this, completely. This will be I bet 2 grand! Rip apple, 2k7-2k11

What's all this about?!?
 
Photos can be backed up in online storage or in removable hard drive, no need for a superdrive for this...


Agree that optical drives have become a bit...old.

But I still burn backup of things that are not to large on them. I like the idea of having a backup that can't be overwritten or ereased.

Also have external harddrives I keep outside my house ( you could get burglars or a fire). I used to store it in a bank but keep backups with familymembers that I update every 2-3 months or so.


Storing personal photos, documents and photos in clouds? LOL! And no use in mocking me for being paranoid. Only idiots buy in to the cloud prophecy....


Anyway. I would not mind if I had a external optical drive. And I just remembered. Is it impossible to use a blueray writer with OSX?

Exactly what I thought, I for one would never rely on them, and it needs a high speed internet connection and it is slower and so on..
 
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