Apple's 2023 Roadmap: When to Expect New Product Launches This Year

Was that any worse than the much larger black bezel areas on the 20202 27" iMac? A lot of times the less noticeable off white bezels on the 24" iMac just blended into the background with off white walls. But the trend is even less of an noticeable edge to displays.

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Looking at that side-by-side the 24’s thin white (off-white) bezels look way better.
 
IMO, yes, it's worse. I think the white is distracting and that it looks cheesy. White - content, black - no content. Thankfully, as you mentioned, the trend is toward smaller bezels whatever their color. I'm sure many people are fine with the white bezel but I'm not. It's a matter of personal taste.
Ignoring the bezel POC, the biggest improvement in the recent 24" redesign was how easy it is to lift and move around an all-in-one compared to the previous iMac model series. I carried a 27" iMac in from a parking lot to the Apple store and it was so heavy and large stand causing it to be awkward to hold along with the narrow edges of the display portion. If Apple continues to make larger iMacs the current more rectangular design is exceedingly easy to transport comparably.
 
Apple have already said there won't be a bigger iMac or an iMac Pro.
Due to chip shortages etc I doubt there will any 'm3' chips, just improved m2 chips.
Where did Apple say anything that was quoted? 😏

The 2020 27" was removed from store (ceased production), and the 24" iMac is still sold. Yes there isn't a need for a intel Xeon based iMac Pro which was a limited life product as the later 27" iMac duplicated its performance pretty much.
 
I'd like to see whatever mini-LED display they come out with replace the price point of the Studio Display, and for the Studio Display to drop considerably in price. It's ridiculous that I can buy a MacBook Pro for the same price as a freaking display that's not particularly outstanding. But the limit of alternative high DPI 4k and 5k Mac-compatible displays in today's market probably doesn't help reduce the price Apple believes they can charge.
 
Apple have already said there won't be a bigger iMac or an iMac Pro.
Due to chip shortages etc I doubt there will any 'm3' chips, just improved m2 chips.

Or the M2 could be there as a stopgap for Apple to release in 2022 while waiting for the 3nm M3 to come out this year.
 
In my opinion, the M2 was not what Apple expected, let alone its drop back in speed when using the one SSD.

The Studio was again in my opinion a stop gap, as I don't believe anyone can say that thus far the M2 has been a blinding success.

I even wonder whether we will see the different versions of the M2, but instead see everything M3.

The press were none too impressed by M2 and I doubt Apple were either.

Doubt that will happen with the M3!
 
M3 Pro/M3 Max this year seems doubtful — for an iMac no less — especially if we're getting the MacBook Pro with M2 Pro/Max in March.

It doesn't make sense give an iMac an M3 but a Mac Pro an M2

M3 makes no sense att all 2023. Not happening before 2024/25.
They haven’t even started for real with the M2 upgrades, only on 1 MBA, to raise interest.
Apple are not cannibalizing on their own products.
 
In my opinion, the M2 was not what Apple expected, let alone its drop back in speed when using the one SSD.

The Studio was again in my opinion a stop gap, as I don't believe anyone can say that thus far the M2 has been a blinding success.

I even wonder whether we will see the different versions of the M2, but instead see everything M3.

The press were none too impressed by M2 and I doubt Apple were either.

Doubt that will happen with the M3!
Yes it's quite possible we have another 80186 on our hands with the M2. That is the basis of the M3 rumors for sure. There was a 1 year time gap between the M1 and the M1 Pro/Max. 18 month gap between M1 and M2. That leaves a lot of time for Apple to be developing a M3 if the M2 isn't quite what Apple was shooting for with an another more capable SoC family. It also explains the lack of 2022 Mac updates.
 
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IMO, yes, it's worse. I think the white is distracting and that it looks cheesy. White - content, black - no content. Thankfully, as you mentioned, the trend is toward smaller bezels whatever their color. I'm sure many people are fine with the white bezel but I'm not. It's a matter of personal taste.
The white bezel made sense with the different colors, but I am hopeful they have rethought the design and will release an iMac without a chin and with a black bezel. The current iMac will probably still be available, so this wouldn’t necessarily be an immediate replacement.
 
2023 for Apple will be the; launch same products with minimal improvements and hype the USB-C, the port they don't wanted.
 
Exactly where is Mark Gurman thse days? He hasn't issued a newsletter since sometime in December. I need reliable rumors, and he's the man!
 
Exactly where is Mark Gurman thse days? He hasn't issued a newsletter since sometime in December. I need reliable rumors, and he's the man!
Don't you suspect he leeches off somethings from Mac Rumors forum discussions? ;)
I should add that Mac Rumors seems to post lots of his competition rumor tidbits as seen online, including ones from Reddit.
 
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No Apple Pencil 3 with iPhone support? I guess that would be too innovative for Apple…
There will be a Pencil-3 to give the M3 iPad Pros a landscape camera, it will have smaller magnets on either side of the camera instead of the Pencil-2’s one centered magnet, but how would you pair and charge a magnetic Pencil-3 with the iPhone? There’s already a variety of 3rd party pencils which work with the iPhone.
 
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I hated the old butterfly keyboard as much as anyone due to its reliability issues, but I never understood the obsession with "inverted T" arrow keys. Why do you want the left and right arrow keys to be so dinky and small?
it’s not about the left and right arrows, it’s about finding the Up key. With an inverted T design it’s easier to find by touch due to the space on either side of it.
 
Apple have already said there won't be a bigger iMac or an iMac Pro.
Due to chip shortages etc I doubt there will any 'm3' chips, just improved m2 chips.
They've stopped production of the 27" iMac, but they didn't cancelled any bigger iMac. It’s unlikely to spect the release of new external monitor (as speculated in the post) since in 2022 they launched the Studio Display. Instead of a new external monitor (unless is the replacement of the Pro Display XDR) it’s time for a bigger Imac.
 
Let's hope the 27" starts at the M1 Max. I don't want garbage like the Intel 2020 27-inch base config was.
 
All I want is a backlit wireless magic keyboard.

This would be significant and if folded into the current (overpriced) price point, would be nice. Every lit keyboard I have seen lacked the 19 function keys Apple gives me. I used the same extended keyboard for twelve years and when it stopped working a few months ago, cried, then went to replace it only to find limited choices and feature sets, e.g. lit but less F-keys, lit but Windows keys, no USB ports anymore? (putting the wireless mouse dongle near external USB3/4 is not great, plus it wastes a port), or Apple with TouchID or without in silver/white or black/black ... I cried more. I went with Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad ... white because it was cheaper and had 19 F-keys and my hardware won't support the TouchID. The new keyboard can be flexed and twisted when holding it on both ends—this is something the wired one it replaced could not do at all. The other missing feature I did not even think about? On the old wired design, the USB ports were in a long bar which acted as a riser ... this new design, without USB ports lays so annoyingly flat on the desk. I stuck erasers under it to mimic another missing feature.
 
It would be so un-Apple to release an M1 iMac, then skip M2 and release an M3 iMac. When have they ever done that? I think an M2 iMac is on the way soon.
 
Given Apple’s secrecy and the utter unfeasibility of some recent rumours (Waist mounted power pack? Yeah, ok) we have no idea what they’re planning to launch and when beyond the usual September iPhone event and WWDC in June.

There are so many posts of people waiting for things that might either never come or have such a negligible increase in speed (M2 iMac) that you may as well get one now. The M1 is a ludicrous processor that can do *anything* you throw at it on any machine.

Excellent point. I dropped money on a Mac Studio yesterday. Sure I could cancel and chug along with this failing 2013 iMac I am on right now, but the performance difference between these two will be insane enough that any M2 (M3?) I might hold out for would not be so insanely better. The one thing that might change—the only thing that matters to me—the next Mx chip might pack more RAM ... 16GB is not enough for my workflow; I chug at work with 24GB and at home I work with 32GB. Memory pressure is constant and a memory cleaner is always running. I have always gotten the most expandable Mac and bought my RAM later after-market. That choice being gone and a year of pondering whether I could be productive on a 16GB M1 machine left me at "hard pass". When the M2s arrived with a 24GB option I considered a laptop for a long time. I would still need an external monitor, so Mac Studio with 64GB of RAM it is. I hope/wish the new way, e.g. RAM on die, etc. is better.

[For reference: on a 2013 top config iMac with maxed RAM, it takes ~45 minutes to convert a hour long Zoom class from Zoom's proprietary format to mp4 ... forced break time]
 
I'd like to see whatever mini-LED display they come out with replace the price point of the Studio Display, and for the Studio Display to drop considerably in price. It's ridiculous that I can buy a MacBook Pro for the same price as a freaking display that's not particularly outstanding. But the limit of alternative high DPI 4k and 5k Mac-compatible displays in today's market probably doesn't help reduce the price Apple believes they can charge.
My guess is the 27” mini-LED will retail for at least $3,000 given the 27“ Asus ProArt mini-LED retails for around $2,000 and that’s for a 4K display, while the non mini-LED version is around $450. I very much doubt Apple will drop the price of the Studio Display as they very rarely do this on the Mac side (see Mac Pro that still retails at the same price as when launched 3 years ago).
 
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