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Apple's two big yearly events, WWDC and the iPhone launch, are done and over with, but there are still some new products that we're expecting to see before the end of the year.

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Apple TV

The Apple TV hasn't been updated since 2022, so it's due for a refresh. It doesn't look like Apple is going to change the design of its set-top box, but we can expect a faster chip

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Apple code suggests that the upcoming Apple TV will use the A17 Pro chip, which Apple first debuted in the iPhone 15 Pro models. The A17 Pro is in the iPad mini 7, and it supports Apple Intelligence. We could see some new Apple Intelligence features for the Apple TV for improving search and content recommendations.

There's a new version of Siri that will likely be integrated into the Apple TV at some point, but the revamped version of Siri isn't coming until spring 2026 and we're expecting the Apple TV before the end of 2025.

The A17 Pro has more advanced GPU capabilities like hardware-accelerated ray tracing for console-quality games, so we could see the Apple TV able to support higher-quality gaming titles.

Rumors suggest the Apple TV will get an Apple-designed Bluetooth and Wi-Fi chip, and we now know that the chip is called the N1. It's already in the new iPhone models, so it makes sense for Apple to incorporate it in other devices coming this year.

Apple could potentially lower the price of the Apple TV or sell an older model at a more affordable price to better compete with products like the Amazon Fire Stick that provides 4K streaming for less than $50.

M5 iPad Pro

Apple is working on an updated iPad Pro with a new M5 chip, and we already know quite a bit about it since it leaked in an unboxing video earlier this week.

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We're expecting 11-inch and 13-inch versions of the iPad Pro, with the same design as the current M4 iPad Pro models. Based on benchmarks, the M5 offers up to 12 percent faster multi-core CPU performance compared to the M4 chip, and up to 36 percent faster GPU performance. Like the iPhone Air and the iPhone 17 Pro models, the next iPad Pro will have 12GB RAM, up from 8GB.

Rumors have suggested the next-generation iPad Pro will have a second front camera so that it can be used for video calls in portrait and landscape orientations. A second front camera is not visible in the video, but it's not out of the question.

Updated Vision Pro

Apple is also going to use the M5 chip in an updated version of the Vision Pro, replacing the M2 chip. So far, it sounds like the Vision Pro refresh will focus solely on the chip, with no design changes planned.

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While the headset isn't being updated, Apple might introduce a more comfortable head strap to reduce neck strain and head pain.

The FCC accidentally leaked the next Vision Pro and several other devices earlier this week, so we know a new model isn't too far off. Rumors have said that the revamped Vision Pro will launch sometime in 2025.

HomePod mini

The HomePod mini hasn't been updated since it came out in 2020, but 2025 will supposedly be the year that it gets a refresh.

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It looks like the next HomePod mini will get an updated S-series chip, likely the same S10 chip that's in the Apple Watch Series 11. The original HomePod mini has the S5 chip that was used in the Apple Watch Series 5, but Apple did make some HomePod-specific tweaks to it, like including Ultra Wideband capabilities.

The S10 chip will provide faster performance for any underlying processing that the HomePod mini does. The HomePod mini uses computational audio for real-time tuning, so that will see an improvement, and it could support more on-device Siri processing.

More recent Apple Watch chips have an altimeter that could come in handy for positioning and audio orienting on a HomePod mini, and the S9 and later chips have a four-core Neural Engine that might also add new functionality.

Like the updated Apple TV, the new HomePod mini is expected to use Apple's N1 networking chip for Bluetooth and Wi-Fi, with support for connecting to 6GHz networks.

Along with these internal changes, we're also expecting new color options for the HomePod mini.

AirTag 2

The AirTag 2 is yet another product that's supposed to be updated before the end of 2025, but with no major design changes. Rumors suggest the shape of the AirTag isn't going to change, but Apple will make under-the-hood improvements.

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It will be harder to get the speaker out of the AirTag 2, preventing tampering for hidden tracking without sound alerts. AirTags could also be trackable from further distances, with Apple adding a second-generation Ultra Wideband chip that supports three times the range.

Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the AirTags are going to get a rechargeable battery or design options like a slim wallet version.

MacBook Pro

The FCC's leak included a MacBook Pro, but there weren't multiple variants in the database like we would expect if a refresh of the entire MacBook Pro line was coming soon.

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It's possible that Apple will announce a lower-cost MacBook Pro that has an M5 chip, saving M5 Pro and M5 Max variants for a later date. There is precedent for that kind of staggered launch, and it would make sense because other M5 devices like the iPad Pro and Vision Pro are rumored to be debuting in 2025.

Rumors about the launch timing of the M5/M5 Pro/M5 Max MacBook Pro models have changed throughout the year. Bloomberg's Mark Gurman first said the MacBook Pro models would... Click here to read rest of article

Article Link: Apple's 2025 Product Roadmap: What's Still Coming
 
So many amazing products about to burst out of the pipeline this winter. iPad Pro M5 will be an absolute beast. Also excited to replace my HomePod Minis with something better, and our Apple TV's are due upgrades having had them for a few years.

New Vision Pro with M5 will be a fascinating product. I could see myself upgrading if Apple can demonstrate they've made improvements.
 
So many amazing products about to burst out of the pipeline this winter. iPad Pro M5 will be an absolute beast. Also excited to replace my HomePod Minis with something better, and our Apple TV's are due upgrades having had them for a few years.

New Vision Pro with M5 will be a fascinating product. I could see myself upgrading if Apple can demonstrate they've made improvements.
I hope this is a joke hahaha
 
What an insipid product line-up. Nothing but chip bumps, and a pretty underwhelming one for the Apple TV. A17 Pro screams we've phoned this in because it sells poorly (similar to the iPad Mini) - should be an A18, minimum.

Amazon is launching smart speakers with LLM AI assistants. Meta is launching smart glasses with a display and wrist controller, Samsung and Oura have launched smart rings, Huwawei has launched a trifold phone, but her comes Apple with the same products as before with updated chips! "it's out strongest product line up ever!"
 
What an insipid product line-up. Nothing but chip bumps, and a pretty underwhelming one for the Apple TV. A17 Pro screams we've phoned this in because it sells poorly (similar to the iPad Mini) - should be an A18, minimum.

Amazon is launching smart speakers with LLM AI assistants. Meta is launching smart glasses with a display and wrist controller, Samsung and Oura have launched smart rings, Huwawei has launched a trifold phone, but her comes Apple with the same products as before with updated chips! "it's out strongest product line up ever!"
After all these years and Apple TV still can't show notifications on the screen. It would be awesome to see you r text messages and other notifications on the corner of your TV. And also a REAL FaceTime.
I would make a small Apple TV with a an integrated camera that sits on top of the TV screen.
It's totally doable. Chromecast does the same as the Apple TV at a 5th its size... Just add a tv mount and a camera
 
WiFi 7, BT 6 (multiple headphones), improved Matter and Thread support? Better graphics for Apple Arcade and third party apps? Apple Intelligence? (revamped Siri will be finally arriving soon), Dolby Vision 2 support? perhaps VRR / HDMI 2.2 support?
@apparatchik it would be nice... but they way things are going they will make the Apple TV 1mm shorter and add a new chip.... hahaha
 
Really want a new Apple TV. Mine is several years old now. Not interested in the HomePods. I had three and two stopped working and for what they cost I'm not going to replace them.
 
I would love a 13-inch M5 iPad Pro to go with my 11-inch M4 iPad Pro. But that is not going to happen since
it will arrive with iPadOS 26.

I am trying to decide if Apple is having its very own Windows Vista moment.
 
The MBP M5/M6 update timing is so awkward for me personally. Our company is doing a refresh this Fall for everyone with laptops. So I'm almost sure to be getting a new M5 if it releases. But ironically, if an M6 version has this rumored touchscreen, I'll be selling it next fall and updating to that as a Mac Book Pro with Apple Pencil support would be an absolute game changer for my workflow.
 
Hopefully the new AirTag comes out soonish. I haven't bought any AirTags before but I'd like to put one in my luggage for my trip during the holidays. Maybe it'll get a holiday discount too.

I'd also like a new variant with a card form factor that still has Precision Finding. Something that Apple doesn't allow 3rd-party trackers to have.
 
Why d people upgrade their Apple TVs. Do they do more than just stream video?
I’m sorry but I truly hate these questions 😭

do you really think that someone who bought an Apple TV in 2017 wouldn’t find any value in upgrading it to a 2025 version?

or do you think everyone who is getting the new one coming out already has the last model that came out in 2022?

I really do want to know 😖
 
I would love a 13-inch M5 iPad Pro to go with my 11-inch M4 iPad Pro. But that is not going to happen since
it will arrive with iPadOS 26.

I am trying to decide if Apple is having its very own Windows Vista moment.
why would you want two? just curious. different sizes and I know everyone has their needs, but I have never heard of someone having two fairly new iPads just for themselves.

work and personal?

I would immediately buy a new Apple TV, two new HomePod mini speakers, and some new AirTags.
same. one Apple TV, one HomePod Mini and a pack of AirTags.

I’ll wait for the redesigned MBP and iPad Pro.
 
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