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We know it will be too big and heavy with a camera hump behind.
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Apple has become to big, too profit-driven and penny-pinching, that they simply aren't able to make these kind of bold innovations anymore. Every year the display is slightly larger, the chip is a little faster, and the camera is improved somewhat. That's about it.

But it's already a very good phone, and there's only so much you can do with a rectangular slab.

How the Apple prices just keep on getting higher and higher (before the tariffs), that's a bigger issue IMO.
 
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Progress in different categories is always going to differ based on consumer demand, cost, complexity etc

Comparing drones to iPhones is odd.

Phone technology has mostly plateaued everywhere. It’s all incremental changes, mostly.

The big changes in coming years will be on battery capacity and AI compute ability within a restricted power envelope.
Partially true. Apple does it because they keep milking the same cow, successfully. The moment it stops, they will need to do things differently. But it might be too late. The only reason I compared a phone to a drone is my own perception of value added.

For decades, iPhone is doing the same thing in pretty much the same way and think about it: one year Apple talks about a breakthrough and innovation to move from aluminium to titanium only to then come back to aluminium and say how much better it is?
 
I’m really curious what apple will name iPhone 69. I guess i will find out when I’m 80
 
I think they should make the iPhone 20th a nice bronze color. They could collaborate with Bose to make a speaker system like no other phone has ever had. You have to purchase at an Apple Store and a store employee brings it to you and sets it up wearing a tuxedo and white gloves.
 
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2027 will mark the 20th anniversary of the iPhone, and Apple is planning to celebrate with an all-new iPhone design. With the 10th anniversary of the iPhone, Apple unveiled the all-display iPhone X with no bezels at the top or the bottom for the camera or the Touch ID home button. It marked the debut of Face ID, and dictated the next decade of iPhone design.

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For the "iPhone XX," Apple needs to do even better, and rumors suggest that the company has some big ideas that it's aiming for.

Apple wants to create an all-glass iPhone that doesn't have cutouts in the display, so there could be a high-end iPhone 19 Pro model that fulfills that requirement. Apple wants a true edge-to-edge display

Design

The 20th anniversary iPhone that Apple is planning for 2027 could feature a radical design, offering a display that has no visible frame or bezels. An early rumor suggests that Apple is aiming for a display that curves around all four edges of the device, for a borderless visual experience.

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Apple wants a mostly glass iPhone with a curved display and no cutouts, which would necessitate under-display Face ID and an under-display camera.

An all-glass iPhone with a wraparound display that covers all four edges of the device would be less durable than current iPhone models that have titanium or aluminum frames, so Apple may need to come up with more durable glass before such a device is a possibility.

Battery

Apple is developing new battery technology that could make it into the 2027 iPhone models. Apple is looking into using pure silicon anode batteries, which are able to store more lithium ions per gram than current batteries, resulting in significant increases in battery life without major increases in battery size.

RAM

Apple could use advanced AI memory technology for the 2027 iPhone models. Apple is rumored to be considering Mobile High Bandwidth Memory (HBM), a type of DRAM that stacks memory chips vertically and connects them through tiny vertical interconnects to boost signal transmission speeds.

In smartphones, the technology would provide high data throughput while minimizing power consumption and the physical footprint of RAM dies.

Name

Technically, the 20th anniversary iPhone lineup would be the iPhone 19 lineup, but in 2017, Apple released a surprise "iPhone X" alongside the iPhone 8 models. This year, Apple could have similar plans for the high-end device, though what it might be called is unclear.

Apple could decide to call it the iPhone 20, like the decision it made for the iPhone X in 2017, or the company could stick with the iPhone 19 naming. Alternatively, the all-display device could have an entirely new name, like iPhone Ultra.

The iPhone that Apple has planned could be a replacement for the iPhone Pro models, or it could be sold alongside them. With plans for a foldable iPhone in 2026, though, it may not make sense to add yet another phone to the lineup.

Launch Date

The 20th anniversary iPhone would presumably come out in the fall of 2027.

Article Link: Apple's 20th Anniversary iPhone: What We Know So Far
NOT buying this one. I need Dynamic Island.
 
Cool idea. But is it practical?
It'll look absolutely stunning in advertising and on display at the Apple Stores.

But practical, any purpose beyond novelty? None at all.

I'm more concerned about their repeated "big ideas" and track record in delivering such things (AirPower, Titan, AI, etc.). Maybe Apple can deliver this time and it'll be a blockbuster, but until it's shipping I'll consider it vaporware.
 
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It'll look absolutely stunning in advertising and on display at the Apple Stores.

But practical, any purpose beyond novelty? None at all.

I'm more concerned about their repeated "big ideas" and track record in delivering such things (AirPower, Titan, AI, etc.). Maybe Apple can deliver this time and it'll be a blockbuster, but until it's shipping I'll consider it vaporware.
Can't believe people are still complaining about AirPower. Apple was obviously pivoting towards magnets for alignment so a place anywhere charging pad made no sense to their strategy. Not sure why they even showed it.
 
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I think they should make the iPhone 20th a nice bronze color. They could collaborate with Bose to make a speaker system like no other phone has ever had. You have to purchase at an Apple Store and a store employee brings it to you and sets it up wearing a tuxedo and white gloves.
Marking-up the "experience" is what restaurants have done for ages. Anyone can eat at home for a fraction of the cost.
 
The iPhone 20 will have minimum innovation, Apple are not capable of this any more, they are too greedy.

How about a small jewel of a phone, say 5 inch display, 10mm thick, weighing 80g and a battery life of a week, and with a proper optical variable zoom lens (not just long focal length fixed lenses), no camera bump. Basically the original 3G on the outside but today on the inside.

All these specs are achievable but far too hard work for Apple.

There's far more money in incremental development, a monster heavy 200g piece of rubbish.
 
They previously skipped 9 and called it the X.
That was another catchup because they previously doubled up on numbers.
iPhone X actually was the 11th iPhone, they were still behind the count despite skipping a number.. we are STILL behind. And if the 21st iPhone is iPhone XX, for the first time they will actually be ahead of the count.


1 - Iphone
2 - 3G
3 - 3GS
4 - 4
5 - 4S (uh oh)
6 - 5 (now we have a problem)
7 - 5S (oh dear)
8 - 6 (we are still behind the count)
9 - 6S
10 - 7
11 - X
12 - XS
13 - 11
14 - 12
15 - 13
16 - 14
17 - 15
18 - 16
19 - 17
20 - 18
21 - XX
 
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That was another catchup because they previously doubled up on numbers.
iPhone X actually was the 11th iPhone, they were still behind the count despite skipping a number.. we are STILL behind. And if the 21st iPhone is iPhone XX, for the first time they will actually be ahead of the count.


1 - Iphone
2 - 3G
3 - 3GS
4 - 4
5 - 4S (uh oh)
6 - 5 (now we have a problem)
7 - 5S (oh dear)
8 - 6 (we are still behind the count)
9 - 6S
10 - 7
11 - X
12 - XS
13 - 11
14 - 12
15 - 13
16 - 14
17 - 15
18 - 16
19 - 17
20 - 18
21 - XX
If they call the 21st iPhone series released in 2027 as iPhone XX (20), how are they ahead?
 
If they call the 21st iPhone series released in 2027 as iPhone XX (20), how are they ahead?
You’re right, they’re still behind. I got no sleep last night, pay no attention to me

After XX they really just need to jump ahead and say iPhone 22 is iPhone 22. Or do away with the numbering scheme altogether.
 
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As a side note to this - but the mention of glass.

I've had every flagship iPhone since the first one - and I’ve never used a case on any of them. They've all been dropped at various times and none of them have ever broken. I've had a few minor knicks here and there.

Whilst doing renovation work around 2021-22, the screens on those models got a few hairline scratches which you couldn't see when the screen was on, but you could feel them under fingers, which was a bit annoying.

Last year’s iPhone 15 Pro felt solid though; it had multiple drops to concrete and one to tarmac as I was riding a bike. It felt out of my pocket at 15 mph, bounced down the road, and it was perfectly fine with just a tiny scuff on the frame.

The 16 Pro though is insane with durability with regards specifically to the glass. It's the first iPhone I’ve owned that after this amount of time hasn't got any kind of micro scratches on the screen; it's absolutely perfect like the first day unboxed, and it's been dropped face down, scrapped, rubbed against abrasive surfaces - the first week I had it, it came on holiday and got knocked off standing up on the side of a pool and landed face down on a very grippy bottom - the screen is still absolutely perfect.

So whatever Corning did for this version, they really nailed it. I've no idea if it went up a grade in those YouTube scratch tests; I imagine it doesn't, I don't watch them - but in real life, it's definitely more scratch resistant.
 
That was another catchup because they previously doubled up on numbers.
iPhone X actually was the 11th iPhone, they were still behind the count despite skipping a number.. we are STILL behind. And if the 21st iPhone is iPhone XX, for the first time they will actually be ahead of the count.


1 - Iphone
2 - 3G
3 - 3GS
4 - 4
5 - 4S (uh oh)
6 - 5 (now we have a problem)
7 - 5S (oh dear)
8 - 6 (we are still behind the count)
9 - 6S
10 - 7
11 - X
12 - XS
13 - 11
14 - 12
15 - 13
16 - 14
17 - 15
18 - 16
19 - 17
20 - 18
21 - XX
You forgot the iPhone 8. Apple will skip the 19 and call the XX its 20th Anniversary phone, not the 20th phone, so none of this matters.
 
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You forgot the iPhone 8. Apple will skip the 19 and call the XX its 20th Anniversary phone, not the 20th phone, so none of this matters.
I view the 8 as an outlier since it was not that year’s true flagship device - I see it as one of their spinoff/budget releases, like a 5C, SE, 16E type of deal
 
I upgrade just about every year. I like the improvements they make year two year. The move to 12 GB of RAM, better cameras, better thermal control, all sound very appealing to me. I use Apple Intelligence daily, so I would expect improvement there to delight me as well.

I would definitely be one of the first in line to get a 20th anniversary phone as described. I am not so sure about a folding phone, however. The main drawback to me is going back to fingerprint ID, which never works well for me.
 
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