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The amount of money you are spending on gas exceeds the value; contact the Lawyers in the Lawsuits...

and tolls, lol. I have family that lives by there so I'll plan the trip and make a visit out of it, but would like to make it one trip, not two
 
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My iPhone 6 has 99% battery health (1810mAh design, 1800mAh actual) and is not throttling according to Lirum. Runs like absolute ass on the latest iOS.
The actual problem is the OS has become bloated (natural as hardware gets more powerful). Perhaps apple should tune the OS to adapt to the CPU. But you know...sales.

Not sure how the hell my battery is so good after all this time - but I've never run the phone down to a critical point, I'm sure that helps.
 
Of course. Like a lot of other people, I have two iphone 6 users on my family plan who have bad batteries (mother and mother-in-law.) In the old days, I woulda just sucked it up and got them new phones. $29 vs. $699? Neither want or need the new features. Easy decision.
 
My iPhone 6 has 99% battery health (1810mAh design, 1800mAh actual) and is not throttling according to Lirum. Runs like absolute ass on the latest iOS.
The actual problem is the OS has become bloated (natural as hardware gets more powerful). Perhaps apple should tune the OS to adapt to the CPU. But you know...sales.

Not sure how the hell my battery is so good after all this time - but I've never run the phone down to a critical point, I'm sure that helps.

Exactly; this is the Apple Conspiracy...I am an iPhone 6 owner...zero issues until the purposeful reduction in performance by Apple to sell more phones...This isn't a Battery issue...this is an Apple Software force to upgrade iPhones by purposely reducing performace; blaming it on battery longevity which Apple since Tim Cook took the helm ever cared about. They shared false facts...sold phones and never cared about customers battery longevity thereafter...so why now so concerned about customer battery performance? They purposely put ****** batteries in the phones?...They purposely are creating end of life 1 to 2 years to for users to upgrade...Seems like a "pre-paid" upgrade program they put in place with companies like AT&T?...How can you ever Trust Apple again...so buy the new 10 iPhone. Next Year you will be in the same position as 6x, 7x users...a cycle that Apple had planned recreate but perhaps now with the outing of their criminal acts the Feds will step in an punish Apple, Apple Executives and send a message to big tech...
 
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My iPhone 6 has 99% battery health (1810mAh design, 1800mAh actual) and is not throttling according to Lirum. Runs like absolute ass on the latest iOS.
The actual problem is the OS has become bloated (natural as hardware gets more powerful). Perhaps apple should tune the OS to adapt to the CPU. But you know...sales.

Not sure how the hell my battery is so good after all this time - but I've never run the phone down to a critical point, I'm sure that helps.

I read somewhere that, since the release of iOS 10, Apple has cut off access to battery details for third-party apps in the App Store, rendering these apps completely useless as a result. That may be why you're getting a 99% health reading. Try coconutBattery if you have a Mac. My battery's at the 87% mark after 3yr worth of charge cycles (surprising in itself, but not as unrealistic as 99%) and it's actually running relatively well on iOS 11.2.
 
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I can't believe fans are still trying to defend Apple.

Disgusting.

You must be new here. Get used to it. Lots here will defend Apple no matter what.

It wouldn't have been so bad if Apple would have been upfront about this, but hiding it is what is upsetting people.

This is a non story...This won't effect future sales for Apple...

You should play the lottery since you can see the future.
 
16M phones x $650 average price = $10,400,000,000 in potentially lost sales.
 
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So what is your point GizmoDVD; you say that all should spend 300 to 1K every three years on a new phone? This is new in Apple history and not just iPhones...You could always count on any hardware you bought from Apple would last and perform for years and several years. Now Apple has been caught in a Corrupt obsolesces and it will be proved it is not just on iPhone!. So stop your snarky comments
You must have missed iOS 4 on the iPhone 3G, iOS 7 on the iPhone 4, and iOS 9 on the 4S. You also must not remember OS X 10.0, which was a huge system resource hog on even the newest Macs at the time.

More advanced software is more complex, which means it takes more computing horsepower to run smoothly. There is no grand conspiracy here like so many desperately wish to believe, this is just how things work. I could go on and on about the huge changes MS implemented in Vista, the increased bloat of websites over time, etc...
 
$50 discount (from $79 to $29) X 16 million fewer iPhones sold = $800 million in lost battery replacement revenue. Ouch.
 
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If sales go down that much maybe just maybe they will decrease the prices of these new iPhones $1200.00 is just getting ridiculous.

I'm definitely getting my battery changed in my 6s in 2018 for $29.00 and won't be paying $1200.00 for a new iPhone. It's not hard to figure out which is the better deal.
 
This has a potential of bringing the AAPL stock down significantly, but it's not a given yet.

First off, most iPhone users will never know about this $29 replacement. Secondly, people don't necessarily buy new iPhones because the old ones are slow. They do so because they want a new phone with a better camera and now without the home button and with much smaller bezels.

I think what may happen is that used iPhones may go up in price on the secondary market (e.g. eBay) because those who are wiling to buy used iPhones can bring them back to the original performance level for just $29.

Apple has no choice now but go all in on the new iPhone X design with all of the new iPhones to offer enough reasons for most people to upgrade.
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$50 discount (from $79 to $29) X 16 million fewer iPhones sold = $800 million in lost battery replacement revenue. Ouch.

I don't really understand your math. Sixteen million fewer iPhones times $500 profit per iPhone = $8 billion lost in profits. That's 1/6th of the 2017 net income. REAL OUCH.
 
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I was ready to upgrade my 5s but now I don't want to if Apple is putting cr@p batteries in. Sigh, maybe better batteries in 2018 phones?

I am pretty sure that the biggest issue is the SIZE of these batteries. In their efforts to make each phone thinner than the last, they kept putting smaller and smaller batteries in the iPhones, and then relying on their magic engineers to somehow make it work.
 
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I really hope that the analysis is true. Apple's management need a wake up call. Rebuild your trust with the customers, start paying taxes outside USA, stop glueing and soldering parts (you know exactly what I mean), drop the ridiculous prices for the iPhones and start throwing some beefier bones again to your loyal long term fan base.

And with fan base I don't mean those known cheerleaders here in the forum who seem to care only for share price and get a hard-on relative to the profit Apple makes. I mean those long term Apple Pro-Mac Mini-MBP-Aperture-Apple Monitor-Fans.
 
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