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B.S! People will continue to buy new phones. Realistically, how many people actually buy new phones because of their slower performance?

This is question probably not applicable for annual or bi-annual upgraders. They probably do not care about the price tag, and they would be willing to pay even $2500 for iPhones every year.

But those who are using the iPhones for quite longer period of time, those many millions who are not Gadget freaks otherwise more conservative in spending money on such things, would be misdirected towards upgrade, especially, if they own 6,6 Plus with throttled devices.

Most often than NOT, they hate shelling out $1000, at anytime for a Mobile Phone.
 
They have a new trick, after many days wait for apt, they take your phone like their going to change the battery, when you come back they say the moisture sensor has been triggered and they refuse to change the battery and try to cell you a new phone and this was in Dec and I was happy to pay $79. I have tried a second time, over the phone, and this time they refuse to give you apt that is convenient for you I asked for a week out and gave them two different stores I would travel to. Time for Cook to fire his customer service VP. I have owned MAC since 1984 ($4000.00 for 128) and I am sure not feeling the luv
 
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If people bought these phones around the time of launch of course you will expect battery drain along with the updates that will slow performance. That's a given with technology. Apple can at least say that they support updates through these phones.

No reasonable person is contesting that batteries shouldn’t degrade over time. But if that is a root cause of compromised performance, then Apple is the one guilty of dismissing that fact by trying to disguise the battery’s degradation and, more seriously, deceivng customers by “passing” a battery with a self-serving diagnostic standard.

As for iOS upgrades, Apple is not as conservative as they are with MacOS upgrades. Apple pushes OS upgrades to less capable hardware with the former. They aren’t doing anyone any favors. An older phone with an older OS is more useful than an older phone with an upgrade it can’t power.

And how is this mindset that a two year old $600+ tool is a disposable product? I can’t think of a similarly priced consumer product where that attitude would be reasonable.
 
Not really. People are going to upgrade reguardless. I plan on upgrading this year from a 7 and keeping it for backup.
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What do you do if the Lightning connector got loose? Is there a repair program for it? It's a serious problem, because it randomly disconnects while charging, or while flying my drone.
Take it to Apple. They will be able to tell you if you dropped it too much causing the problem
 
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I feel like the same is happening with my 2 ipad Air I's. : one runs great on 10.3.3 and the other one i foolishly DFU'd to ios 11. The ios11 device is super sluggish, stutters, and is almost unusable. I remember well the ip4 era os updates that were horrendous. I'd love to spend a small amount for a battery replacement on one of my Airs.
 
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I can see it. Needing a new battery is what helped push me to just doing a full upgrade. Love my new phone but the 6s Plus was treating me fine otherwise. Ah well. Live and learn I guess. Expensive lesson. And if I am honest with myself, even paying the original replacement price ould have been the smarter move, financially.
 
My sister in-law did.
Her 6 became unbearably slow with iOS 11 so she bought an 8.

And how many Android users do you think with 3+ year old phones also upgraded? People act as if only Apple users upgrade their phones.

My sister's Android phone became dog slow in 1-2 years.
 
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B.S! People will continue to buy new phones. Realistically, how many people actually buy new phones because of their slower performance?
You completely missed the point. Yes people will continue to buy phones, that is not the point .

When your computer gets slow....that is the first indicator of an upgrade for most
 
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And how many Android users do you think with 3+ year old phones also upgraded? People act as if only Apple users upgrade their phones.

My sister's Android phone became dog slow in 1-2 years.

How can that be when we're forever told Androids don't get updates? ;)

Besides, it's completely irrelevant because you can revert back to faster previous versions with Android devices.
 
My experience at Apple Store Sydney was they replaced the battery in my wife’s iPhone 6 in 2 hours. Geekbench scores for CPU improved about 30% immediately following the replacement battery.
 
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How can that be when we're forever told Androids don't get updates? ;)

Besides, it's completely irrelevant because you can revert back to faster previous versions with Android devices.

My sister actively complained how slow her Galaxy S4 was and it wasn't even 2 years old. Another coworker with the same phone complained about it too.
 
Apple has become the company of deceit and greed
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I can't believe fans are still trying to defend Apple.

Disgusting.

they aren't fans.

they are damage control companies hired by Apple who post in forums and social media positive feedback

then there are people who have economic interest in the Apple eco chamber like bloggers, IOS developers, hardware, accessories producers etc.
 
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It's possible to complain and continue being a customer. Viola! I'm doing it now.

What, playing the viola? :)

Anyway, for my tuppence worth on this topic, Apple have had something like this coming for a long time, and I think we, the customers, may see some lasting benefit. FWIW I decided after much deliberation to upgrade my 6 to a X about a month ago. I quite like the X, but am not dancing in the streets with delight about it. It has pros and cons. Had all this news broken a month ago, I may well have decided to change the battery and give the 6 another year or two.
 
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I'll keep my perfectly working iPhone 6s for the next 20 years and replace the $29 battery every 2 to 3 years

we need to fight Apple on their filthy Planned Obsolescence tactics
 
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My sister actively complained how slow her Galaxy S4 was and it wasn't even 2 years old. Another coworker with the same phone complained about it too.

You didn't address either of my points.

If it was slow, they could have reverted back.

With iOS, if it's slow, the device is permanently done for.
 
Apple: "First and foremost, we have never -- and would never -- do anything to intentionally shorten the life of any Apple product, or degrade the user experience to drive customer upgrades."

Eee-yeah. Soldered Ram says Hi.

also glued non user replaceable battery!
 
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This is well deserved, but the shareholders will put pressure on tim cook, and they are going to do something else because you have to keep thoses number up, that's what the economy wants
 
Where are all the people that kept making fun out of others that said "Apple is doomed". This is nothing unexpected under Tim Cook, anyone with more than 50 IQ could see that he's a bad CEO and is going to drive apple into the ground.
 
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***BATTERY REPLACEMENT WARNING--NO STOCK!!!***
I signed up for an on line appointment, showed up 20 minutes early. The on-line process identified the need as a battery replacement for my iphone 6, which was registered and required me to log in to my itunes account.

When I arrived they would not check me in until 15 minutes before my appointment, so I waited. I got checked in, then waited for a technician. The technician showed up in about 5 minutes and informed me that they are ***OUT** of batteries! I asked how that could be since I had an appointment, and he told me that all the batteries were sold to walk-ins.

At that point i asked for a manager, and was told same things, and also that it was like going to a doctor, first the diagnosis, and then another appointment to fix the problem.

I couldnt disagree more with this approach, and felt that it should have gone like this:

1. Best case--battery reserved when appointment was made for battery replacement
2. Second Best--Email or text notification that batteries were out so please reschedule
3. Third Best--Offer free replacement when batteries are in stock

Instead, i just got a half-assed apology, a lecture about the doctors visit, and no battery replacement, despite the investment of two hours of my time and several train tickets.

For shame Apple!

People go on about Apple's great after-sales service, but my experience is the opposite.

The first time I had a problem with something, I booked an appointment then went to the Apple store for the booked time. I stood there and stood there. Waited and waited. Watched while loads of 12-year-old kids talked to the staff about the latest phone/iPad they wouldn't buy anyway.

Eventually I got to a member of staff who told me I was too late and had missed my slot! I was livid.
 
I have my 6s and it's the first time I'm not upgrading. My brother has the 6, my girlfriend the 6s+. We'll all be changing our batteries out and keeping our phones.
There are 0 new features to us (other than a better camera) in the last 3 years, so why change if we can just "patch" up our current devices and keep them.
 
B.S! People will continue to buy new phones. Realistically, how many people actually buy new phones because of their slower performance?
I did. Twice. I replaced my iPhone 4 after the iOS 7 update clobbered its performance. Same thing with my iPhone 5s after I made the mistake of updating it to iOS 11. (Both were fresh installs from iTunes and set up as new)

Newer iOS updates aren't too kind to older hardware. So for some, its either new iOS and slow phone, or a new phone..
 
Her three year old phone is slow?

Wow.

You must be the kind of person that drops 1K and upgrades the millisecond a new iPhone released every year. While nice, not everyone has that luxury, especially for those like me that cannot buy it on installment plans and have to pay the cost upfront. I tend to keep my phones for 3-4 years and I expect my devices to last at least that long if I'm dropping that much money on a phone
 
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