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Apple's 3D Touch Video Confirms 1715 mAh iPhone 6s Battery
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It's so easy to see why the battery is smaller. It's due to that new "Taptic" engine device they now put in the phone. Did you guys see that large vibration unit?!?! But, I'm waiting to see the test as I bet the 6s will get the same if not better battery life than the 6 did. Plus the new vibration may make the silent mode a little more controllable and easier to use for those that wear the phone on their belt, etc etc. But as far as thickness, I wouldn't be put off by a slightly thicker iPhone for a bigger battery. Some might though, so I'll just say I'm happy with it's current state. As a mainly business user, I get up to 3 days of use out of my 6 plus right now. Very happy with battery life in my iPhone 6 plus. Very.
The only thing I'd like to see on future models is wireless charging. I feel this would quiet down a lot of folks. Heck, GM and others are putting wireless charging ability in new cars, so this would be a great feature for the next iPhone.
The only thing I'd like to see on future models is wireless charging. I feel this would quiet down a lot of folks. Heck, GM and others are putting wireless charging ability in new cars, so this would be a great feature for the next iPhone.
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Does no person want a phone that has a replaceable battery so that it can be replaced - easily - by the owner instead of having to buy a new phone or pay an exorbitant price to have someone else replace it?
No, because by the time the battery is dying, most prefer to upgrade the whole phone anyway. This just makes it easier to do that.
Best me to it and I agree. I'm not all about battery life myself mainly because I have an iPad mini to do the pocketable heavy lifting that I would've used my phone for. Also I'd just get a battery pack of it REALLY was that important.
I prefer phones with removable batteries as I like to pass my phone to mom/sister/wife/dad after an year of use. This makes the phone new. It is even better if the phone came with micro SD slot.
I am now using Note 3 from past 1.5 years and I'm planning to give it to my mom. Battery life has become weak so I'll swap it with a new one for $10. Can one do it so little for iPhone?
Have you seen how the iP6 compares to other competing phones? Not great. Innovation in run time not being addressed?
I haven't completely given up hope though, high voltage lithium batteries are becoming more common so it's still possible the watt/hour rating could potentially be equal or even higher.
No but the speed enhancements were to be expected. I consider everything else to be a gimmick. The 3D Touch and Live Photos are unnecessary gimmicks for me.
Had they improved battery life I would've liked the performance boost but without it it's a deal breaker. I have an iPhone 6 and whilst I was expecting performance improvements in iOS 9, it's certainly not a slouch either way. Performance is something I want but battery life more so.
http://www.mophie.com/shop/iphone-6-plus
I see people on this forum who continuously say they'd gladly give up a thinner, lighter phone for more battery. Here's your chance to put up or shut up.
There was a time when Apple proudly boasted that the laptops got an extra hour or two with each revision until they settled down to the current industry easing 8-10 hours or so.
I wish Apple felt the same way about battery life on their phones. Unlike laptops, we don't usually use them where they can be plugged in and charging and it's much more annoying to have to use them while charging.
When Apple said the A9 has architectural improvements does that mean a smaller fabrication process or just design tweaks?
Of course it's impressive if the A9 gives us double the performance for a similar power draw but it's reaching a point now where the phone has more than enough performance for most people anyway whereas everyone can benefit from greater battery life. Heck I'm even still happy enough with the performance of my 5s and possibly even 5 if I still had that.
Also, don't forget that the stated battery usage times for their phones are under fairly low usage scenarios and it's typical to lose battery life slowly over time, about 20-30% after 500 cycles which most people reach in only 1.5 years. The biggest complaint I ever hear from people with 1-2 year old phones is their battery life yet Apple deliberately discourages upgrading the batteries in favour of pushing people to buy a completely new phone.
I wish Apple felt the same way about battery life on their phones. Unlike laptops, we don't usually use them where they can be plugged in and charging and it's much more annoying to have to use them while charging.
When Apple said the A9 has architectural improvements does that mean a smaller fabrication process or just design tweaks?
Of course it's impressive if the A9 gives us double the performance for a similar power draw but it's reaching a point now where the phone has more than enough performance for most people anyway whereas everyone can benefit from greater battery life. Heck I'm even still happy enough with the performance of my 5s and possibly even 5 if I still had that.
Also, don't forget that the stated battery usage times for their phones are under fairly low usage scenarios and it's typical to lose battery life slowly over time, about 20-30% after 500 cycles which most people reach in only 1.5 years. The biggest complaint I ever hear from people with 1-2 year old phones is their battery life yet Apple deliberately discourages upgrading the batteries in favour of pushing people to buy a completely new phone.
You should know better... It's all about form, not function. Apple makes things more power efficient to reduce the battery size and keep the runtime more, or many times, same/less than the current generation.
In the lives of people at Apple they are never more than an hour at most from a charger and they don't understand that sometimes people end up further away than that.
When you actually go to use all that fancy-engineered GPU power it still uses up plenty of power... Your battery will be dead in 2-3 hours (or at the very least, you'll be thinking twice about going the rest of the day without throwing it on a charger). My Android using friends joke that the game demos are so short on event days because that is all the longer the battery would last. I can't think of a reason why they are wrong either...
That is not innovation. Innovation would be packing 3 days worth of power in the same space as 1 now. Not shrinking the battery so you might run out at the same time every day between different versions of a device.
I'm waiting for one that has a lightning pass-thru. Micro-USB is useless to me and my accessories that require access to the lightning port. Until then, these battery "solutions" are more of a problem as I need to carry around another cord to charge my case and take the case off to use my phone as intended by Apple themselves...
I think it comes down to how many people are having a problem and what compromises need to be made to make it worth it to a sufficiently large number of customers. If I couldn't get through a day, I'd be pretty annoyed, but I don't know how many people are having a problem.
I'm not saying that I'm typical, but I'm using an iPhone 5 with a 3 year old 1440Ah battery, and it still gets me through a full day. In order for increased battery to be worth it for me, it would need to be double the battery life, to a full second day and even then it would only be of slight benefit to me. In general I have no problem charging my phone nightly, so maybe a few times a year I'd see a minor benefit. If it could last a week, I'd notice the difference.
The problem with a chasm like they'd need to cross to please people like me is that it's hard to do incrementally. A 20% longer battery life isn't much better than a full day battery life for most people-- the next 8 are while we're sleeping and then they have to get through another 16 before the next night.
So, how many people are negatively affected by the current battery life, and how negatively. If adding 1-8 hours of battery life is essentially wasted on the vast majority of users then Apple would be throwing away an opportunity to improve the phone for those users in exchange for helping the much smaller number of users who don't get a full day's use.
I have to believe that the Apple Execs are pretty heavy users of their devices, so I'd think they'd notice if they were running out of juice-- and maybe they are, which would just further reinforce that they believe it was a compromise worth making in order to meet the needs of the broader market.
Innovation for its own sake is kind of silly. At least in a consumer product. In the art world, or lab prototypes, it can expand one's thinking-- but to then make millions of devices that were only produced to see if they could be seems like a failing strategy. Better to sell last year's and save the R&D budget.
That's clearly not why Apple does this-- they think that smaller, thinner, more taptriffic is of benefit to their customers, and their customers seem to overwhelmingly agree. The battery isn't driving design, the design is driving the battery.
Some tension is necessary to drive innovation, but it doesn't have to be this particular tension. They could have decided to make the battery twice as big and tried to get 3 times the run time out of it, for example.
I can't imagine how ugly the room got when they made the tradeoff over the camera bulge-- and yet camera quality apparently won that one. They are willing to make a different tradeoff when the arguments are strong enough, apparently.
I suspect they have a synthetic metric that says how long the device must run doing certain tasks, along with a million other marketing requirements for each generation and the innovation comes from trying to simultaneously satisfy all of them.
I agree with you. I have owned Mophie Juice Packs before, and one of the main reasons I haven't bought one in recent years is because I do not like the micro USB charging. I would gladly pay Mophie the difference in price for licensing Lightning from Apple. I also don't travel as much as I once did. Back then I would charge my Mophie and keep it in my briefcase until I needed it. It would hold a charge for quite a while.
But the point I was making was that life is compromise, no matter what you buy or own. The vast majority of iPhone users are perfectly fine with the weight, size and battery life of the iPhone, and would probably complain if it were thicker and heavier. For those who need extended battery life the Mophie is a very suitable option to incessant whining about Apple's making the iPhone thin.
Well, they're either asking for that, or for Apple to give me a thicker and heavier phone so that they can have a couple more hours of battery life.
I'm on the other side of the fence. I will continue to prefer thinner and lighter iPhones over battery because generation after generation battery remains consistent, and I find that great.
And I really can't wait for the iPhone 7 next year, if the recent rumor of it being as thin as the current iPod Touch is true. I think that will be an amazing feat of engineering. The iPod Touch is just a dream to hold in your hand.
It's because everyone wants their phone to be thin, thin, thin. If the masses didn't mind an extra .3mm the batteries could probably have 3-4x the capacity they have now. But every year...thinner! It's so light, and thin!
You'd better stop it with this reasoned logic. You're asking to get blasted...
Reasoned logic is fine, he was speaking for himself. You were attempting to speak for 350+ million people. 1 vs 350+ million. See the difference or do you need more clarification?
Wouldn't it make sense to get a battery backup case for extreme usage like this? When I went on vacation to Germany last year I brought two, just in case charging opportunities became few and far between.
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I see far fewer people asking for a thinner phone and a metric crap ton (just estimating here) asking for more battery life... Heck I see more people wanting thinner bezels than a thinner overall phone.
I also know the wife and her friends that have iPhones, while not on this forum, universally agree that battery life is an issue. So not sure about the vast majority you're talking about. (I bought the wife several of those battery cases over the years and she eventually gives them up for the same reason as I do... and its never a question of bulk.)
I have not experienced a single iPhone user that has ever said "I wish the iPhone ran out of juice sooner" or "I have so much charge left at the end of the day I wish this phone were 1mm thinner"...
...Except those who want to be difficult in an online forum