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If they put a graphics card inside of a new display, can they eject the graphics card out of- say- the next Mac Mini to roll out a "thinner" Mini?

Can they eject the dedicated graphics card separate from Intel's "built in" graphics in the next rMB Pro?

...and so on. In other words, kicking more demanding graphics cards out of Macs would allow them to make them "thinner" while keeping the "same great battery life" on smaller batteries (because those batteries don't have to power using the better graphics cards). And everyone wanting more graphics horsepower would be somewhat obligated to buy THIS monitor from Apple rather than just any old monitor not built this way. Hmmmm.

I know, I know... Apple would never plot such stuff. I'm sorry, you are soooooo right. Now pass me that Lightning adapter there so I can connect my new iPhone 7 Lightning-terminated, Beats headphones with my Apple Mac (Beats only because all of the other lower-cost brands are still waiting for Apple approvals for months after the "7" launches) ;)

It would also be an excellent business plan to double your profits from certain customers groups that buy the Mini and MacBook Pro, because Apple would charge a ludicrous sum for it all! And make it very proprietary.
 
If the card was in standard MXM format and upgradeable, I'd be all over it... but this is Apple we're talking about. They'd never do it.

And so the GPU, whatever it is, will get outdated in two years time, and you'll be left with 2016-performance-locked display. Seriously, a good 5K display should last a decade at least.
 
If they put a graphics card inside of a new display, can they eject the graphics card out of- say- the next Mac Mini to roll out a "thinner" Mini?

Can they eject the dedicated graphics card separate from Intel's "built in" graphics in the next rMB Pro?

...and so on. In other words, kicking more demanding graphics cards out of Macs would allow them to make them "thinner" while keeping the "same great battery life" on smaller batteries (because those batteries don't have to power using the better graphics cards). And everyone wanting more graphics horsepower would be somewhat obligated to buy THIS monitor from Apple rather than just any old monitor not built this way. Hmmmm.

It's a good idea. Take the GPU out of the computer (if it even had one) and put it in the monitor. And it can be high-powered since it's plugged into the wall.

But make it UPGRADABLE.

No need to throw out your monitor when the GPU gets outdated.
 
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Can you imagine just how much Apple would charge for a 5K monitor with built in graphics card! It charges as much as a Mac computer already for the current display, or near enough.
It sounds like a great idea but I would fear the cost would be far to astronomical for it to be a mainstream option for people.
They cant be more than the base most cheaper 27" 5k imac
Base imac is 1799$, so think below that
 
OMG, please be true! I'm still slinging my ACD 30", but I've been dying to have the extra resoltion of a Retina quality big display to make reading and long hours at the computer easier on my eyes.
 
Imagine having a curved display that is the equivalent of putting two curved 5K displays side-by-side. That's where I see the future. A 32" size display, but two of them side-by-side and CURVED. 2x5K!!!
 
It's a good idea. Take the GPU out of the computer (if it even had one) and put it in the monitor. And it can be high-powered since it's plugged into the wall.

But make it UPGRADABLE.

No need to throw out your monitor when the GPU gets outdated.

Is it a good idea? It would almost certainly lock Mac buyers to buying only this monitor from Apple (you know there would be something proprietary in there somewhere).

And would ejecting such graphics cards out of Macs yield lower-priced Macs? Or would they stay the same price even though some fundamental utility was jettisoned? Hint: before answering, consider whether iPhones that eject the 3.5mm port out to some accessory or adapter sold separately will be cheaper?

Else, I'm completely with you on making it UPGRADABLE... but then I have to look at the upgradability trends in everything else that Apple makes. Why would this one thing buck that trend?
 
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They cant be more than the base most cheaper 27" 5k imac

It depends on what kind of GPU they'd out in it.

The iMac has a lot of parts like CPU, RAM, PCI SSD, etc... that would not be in a standalone monitor+GPU

But if they put a monster GPU in the monitor... it might equal an iMac in price.
 
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You mean macOS 11?

Sorry, OS X 11 is already out...

It's on your Mac.

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What I am saying is this Tenant X11 XWindows system is called X11, so Apple may likely skip the OS 11 because of conflicts with the X11 name, and simply keep on the OS X path or do something totally different. I don't think they will jump to 12 but they may call it like "OS X Santa Monica" or something with the current naming scheme they are using with California place names. Just my thought. After they abandon the "10" number I don't think they will continue with numbers.
 
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Building a graphics card into the display seems especially silly given how often Apple (doesn't) refresh their Thunderbolt Displays. GPUs have historically advanced quite a bit every five or six years.
 
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You mean macOS 11?
10.11 can be considered mac os 11 if they call the new OS X mac os 12
but i doubt very much the new OS X will be called "macOS 11"
because EC is already 10.11
yes i know is OS X 10 not OS X 11 but the 11 is already there
so i don't think that apple is going to start with #11
what a mess
but in a way you are right too
this can go either way
we just have to wait to see is going to be really called
 
Is it a good idea? It would almost certainly lock Mac buyers to buying only this monitor from Apple (you know there would be something proprietary in there somewhere).

And would ejecting such graphics cards out of Macs yield lower-priced Macs? Or would they stay the same price even though some fundamental utility was jettisoned? Hint: before answering, consider whether iPhones that eject the 3.5mm port out to some accessory or adapter sold separately will be cheaper?

Else, I'm completely with you on making it UPGRADABLE... but then I have to look at the upgradability trends in everything else that Apple makes. Why would this one thing buck that trend?

They must have a graphics card before they can eject it ;)

Consider all the Macs that do not have graphics cards in them at all.

Do we ever think the 12" Macbook will ever get a dedicated GPU? Or the 13" Macbook Pro?

At least when you're at your desk you could have the power of an external GPU in this supposed Apple Thunderbolt Display.

You won't get that from a Dell monitor :)
 
10.11 can be considered mac os 11 if they call the new OS X mac os 12
but i doubt very much the new OS X will be called "macOS 11"
because EC is already 10.11
yes i know is OS X 10 not OS X 11 but the 11 is already there
so i don't think that apple is going to start with #11
what a mess
but in a way you are right too
this can go either way
we just have to wait to see is going to be really called

God knows why they can't call stuff with the year of release. All release cycles are yearly.
iPhone 2016, iPhone 2017 etc.
macOS 2016, macOS2017
iOS 2016, iOS2017
etc.
 
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It depends on what kind of GPU they'd out in it.

The iMac has a lot of parts like CPU, RAM, PCI SSD, etc... that would not be in a standalone monitor+GPU

But if they put a monster GPU in the monitor... it might equal an iMac in price.
And make the iMac obsolete and removed? Since a better config will be a mbp+ display? Never is not alienware
[doublepost=1464817151][/doublepost]Remeber a high end cpu quad core +ram+256ssd are higher price than an 1080 nvidia so still it must be below the imac in price
 
Maybe gamers will stop complaining.

Lol what? Apple put mobile GPU in their last iMac, and no games will be able to be played at 5k. Even the GTX 1080 puts up a struggle at 4k, and there's no way Apple will include a card of this calibre or greater
 
Like others have already said, I expect this to be a very low performance GPU, maybe even along the lines of what's in iPhones/iPads that is not fit for anything extensive. I guess it's just to ensure compatibility with more low specced MacBooks. If you have a Mac Pro you will of course use the certainly more powerful built-in Fire Pro.
 
If the card was in standard MXM format and upgradeable, I'd be all over it... but this is Apple we're talking about. They'd never do it.

And so the GPU, whatever it is, will get outdated in two years time, and you'll be left with 2016-performance-locked display. Seriously, a good 5K display should last a decade at least.

No, it will be outdated immediately. Given Apple's tendency to have it's head stuck up it's ass, they'll release somehing like R3xx series card and tell you it's amazing stuff when Polaris and Vega are near and Nvidia already released Pascal cards that put everything Apple's got for GPUs to absolute miserable shame.

Just like Palmer Luckey said, Oculus Rift will support Macs 'when Apple makes a good computer'. He nit the nail on the head with that one. Anyone buying a mac for gaming needs to see a doctor.
 
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