Woa, did not see that coming!
a monitor with a dedicated GPU that can still be connected to another mac? I'll take 50.
a monitor with a dedicated GPU that can still be connected to another mac? I'll take 50.
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Apple’s 5K Thunderbolt Display Could Include Its Own Graphics Card
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I understand, but your original post seemed to insinuate that Apple would be ditching Thunderbolt because of the presence of USB-C ports. My point was that Thunderbolt 3 uses those ports and at least one or two of those will be equipped with Thunderbolt 3 data speeds.
Not only do I remember them, but I owned the aluminum 23" Apple Cinema Display myself and paid about $900 at the time, and that was after Apple dropped the prices on them.
A 5K Thunderbolt Display with the lowest end GPU offered in the entry level 27" iMac just won't go above the price of that iMac. Couple that with dropping 4K/5K displays as market penetration continues and I think it could be feasible to offer it at a more reasonable price than some folks here would rather lead us to believe.
And when those Cinema Displays first came out, there were no equivalent sized 23" or 30" iMacs for sale. Today, there are. It's a different situation than it was a decade ago.
Aw come on guys. Even Apple has quit on Mac's by now... their focus is on iPhone (those sweet, sweet margins), iOS, and Apple Car (because how else do you get Cap Ex to satisfy shareholders, and yet no true innovation)
same reason they sell a 10k MacPro when you can buy a 5k PC that is probably better in every which way possible....
Oh, and because its Apple and they can.
Another note, make 3k is over the top but definitely 2k.
Well, Since OS 11 would be OS XI, I'm not sure it matters. Currently we are on OS X vers. 11 (10.11.x). Apple threw out their standard versioning system already. They could go back to Mac OS 11 for all we know.
You definitely aren't playing games like BF4, COD, GTA5 or anything like that. And if you are, even on a 5k iMac, performance would be miserable and the only way around that would be to play at 1080p on a 5k screen (which looks like garbage) and then also turn down the quality just to get a playable frame rate.
Mobile graphics in a desktop computer are a slap to the face of the consumer. Apple should be a ashamed of themselves.
That said, you being on an iMac and whatever gaming you do on it, isn't serious gaming... it's not debatable because we all know your system can't handle it.
Not at all. When the 27" CD came out in 2010 (the TB display from 2011 is just the former with the addition of a TB hub), the average price for a high-quality ISP 27" display was not far off its $999 price. And that excludes the whole NEC or Eizo line-up which mostly was above $1000 (now $1000 might be about the median price for NEC and Eizo displays).
Anything in the name of having that pretty Apple logo!
Granted, I think most reasonable people (there aint many of them) would pay extra to Apple to remain in the OS X realm and avoid Windows like the plague. But rarely do you hear that as the reason to allow themselves get ripped off.
Imagine if they didn't solder, but had a nubus video slot and allowed users access to it upgrade the GPU as they wished?...
Oh, sorry I was having a 1990's flashback!
Oh, sorry I was having a 1990's flashback!
It will definitely be close to 2 grand. You're getting ripped off already and Apple has always inflated their prices on GPUs as if to insult their customers.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it was OVER 2 grand!
It would certainly be an optional choice. I can see them including the one in the higher end iMac.
LOL. Battlefield 4, Hardline, and Battlefront are among my most often played games and I run at least the former two at 1440p at ultra settings. I can't remember exactly my settings on Battlefront but I am most certainly running it at 1440p and most likely HIGH settings. All this on my 2012 iMac. Color me impressed.
Some of the titles that my iMac struggles on are Mortal Kombat X, Killer Instinct. and Far Cry 4, which I must run at 1080p and at medium settings. But even then still, did I play these titles to the end? Yep. Enjoyed every minute of it, so yes the fact is, my machine handled it well enough. I'm sure I'd have to knock down GTA 5 and Meta Gear Solid 5 down to 1080p as well, but I'd still be able play them just fine.
PCIe.Imagine if they didn't solder, but had a nubus video slot and allowed users access to it upgrade the GPU as they wished?...
Oh, sorry I was having a 1990's flashback!
Your framerate must be 20FPS. Come on man, you're not fooling me or anyone else that knows gaming.
Your $1500 would translate into £1500 UK pounds which is around £200 cheaper then the base 5K iMac. As I said 3.5K for a MacBook Pro with this new monitor, stuff that!
Yes they do and they just blame it on exchange rates etc. But they are not going to charge the same for a HEAVILY updated monitor then they currently charge.
It might be worth looking at Apple's previous efforts at high rez screens, like the Apple 30 inch Cinema Display with 2560x1600 rez. It requires a video card or chip with at least 512k VRAM, at the time, that was only available as a Build To Order option on Mac minis and MacBooks. And then you had to buy a Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI adapter. It uses both your Thunderbolt port and a USB port. My understanding is that there is a simple video chip in this adapter that works in conjunction with the Mac's video card.
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MB571LL/A/mini-displayport-to-dual-link-dvi-adapter
So it is entirely possible Apple will create a product that uses two ports, as some people have already speculated.
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MB571LL/A/mini-displayport-to-dual-link-dvi-adapter
So it is entirely possible Apple will create a product that uses two ports, as some people have already speculated.
I'm not trying to fool anyone man. I literally play battlefield and battlefront every single week and around a pretty consistent 30fps. I mean what do you want me to say? I played battlefront just only two days ago. Played the hell out of the Outer Rim.
Mortal Kombat X runs at a brisk 60fps through its FPS kalculator but like i said, for that game I need to tone it down.
This seems like a bad idea all around. Displays tend to outlast everything else at my desk. I'm still using the pre-Thunderbolt mDP cinema display.
Why integrate a graphics chipset rather than create some kind of external video box that could handle this and then just equip the soon-to-be released Macs with dedicated video so they're not in need.
Intel's lack of support for DisplayPort 1.3 is, correct me if I'm wrong, a limitation of their GPU. A GPU that supports DisplayPort 1.3 can use the Thunderbolt interface, right?
I don't think backward compatibility is going to be a driving force in the least. It wasn't for the previous iterations (mDP and TB). A dedicated GPU on the 13" model solves this issue so far as I understand it, so does dedicated video until Intel handles the situation, similar to 2010 when the 13" MacBook stuck with Core2 to maintain using nVidia's chipset.
Why integrate a graphics chipset rather than create some kind of external video box that could handle this and then just equip the soon-to-be released Macs with dedicated video so they're not in need.
Intel's lack of support for DisplayPort 1.3 is, correct me if I'm wrong, a limitation of their GPU. A GPU that supports DisplayPort 1.3 can use the Thunderbolt interface, right?
I don't think backward compatibility is going to be a driving force in the least. It wasn't for the previous iterations (mDP and TB). A dedicated GPU on the 13" model solves this issue so far as I understand it, so does dedicated video until Intel handles the situation, similar to 2010 when the 13" MacBook stuck with Core2 to maintain using nVidia's chipset.
I would be p****d off if they did this as it would mean a very high probability of them not including a dGPU into the new MacBook Pro models, just for the damn sake of thinness!!! And profit.
I would not pay the money to them.