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Apple’s 5K Thunderbolt Display Could Include Its Own Graphics Card
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They don't and never have. 'Casual' gamers that are also professionals that prefer the Mac OS system might also be willing to fork out the cash for a proper GPU, but Apple hasnt had any options for that in years and with their terribly options on the new trash can Mac Pro, gaming is an absolute joke on Macs... and that's on their most expensive system. Try gaming on an iMac with a mobile GPU on a 5k screen. It's pathetic.
The only way to get both gaming and Mac OS is to build yourself a hackintosh. The great thing is, you get a system that runs circles around Macs for literally 1/3 the price.
which is hilarious and sad considering the high end audio production industry industry finally just adopting TB1
Intel has chosen USB-C as the connector type for thunderbolt 3. Connect the dots people...
LOL! I wanted to comment on that but was waiting for someone else to catch on.
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Yes!!! This is what I was saying they should do. Oh, and please also have a GTX 1080 option
Apple isn't smart enough or even willing enough to give it's ripped off consumers a proper performing card like the GTX 1080. Even if they did, they'd charge you 50% more for it for NO REASON and release 2 years after it's release. Oddly, SOME Apple consumers would still be willing to comply and pay that kind of money for it. Boggles the mind.
You're going to have to get used to the fact that you're going to get outdated crap from AMD.
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Yeah exactly, they would charge the price of a full Mac computer for it like they already do! The current Apple display costs the exact same as the cheapest iMac is!!! They charge you as much as an entire computer for a display that isn't even 4K....
So an Apple 5K monitor with a GPU inside it would be stupid money. You make as well take your Mac Mini or MacBook Pro and chuck another 2 grand on top for a monitor and decent GPU performance, if they remove the dedicated GPU's from those devices, give the Mac Mini a really poor integrated GPU etc.
I would never buy into that! I would rather keep my current Mac and fix it's fan and replace it's battery.
I think it would be an excellent upgrade for Mac mini and MacBook/Macbook Air users who want upgraded graphics. I'm looking forward to seeing if Apple can pull this off.
BTW, for anyone wondering why Apple doesn't switch to plain USB-C instead of Thunderbolt 3:
1. A TB1/2->TB3 adapter will let every Mac released in the last few years (except for the 12" Macbook) work with this 5K monitor.
2. A USB-C DP 1.3 connection would be good for a 5K monitor and a USB 2.0 connection. Compared to that, a TB3 connection is good for a 5K monitor (2xDP1.2 connections) while still retaining 2.5 gigabytes/sec (not bits) of bandwidth for PCI-E.
With this type of method, you could also feed multiple 5K monitors with a single TB-3 equipped Mac.
Not only is this device a great idea, I'm incredibly excited for it!
1. A TB1/2->TB3 adapter will let every Mac released in the last few years (except for the 12" Macbook) work with this 5K monitor.
2. A USB-C DP 1.3 connection would be good for a 5K monitor and a USB 2.0 connection. Compared to that, a TB3 connection is good for a 5K monitor (2xDP1.2 connections) while still retaining 2.5 gigabytes/sec (not bits) of bandwidth for PCI-E.
With this type of method, you could also feed multiple 5K monitors with a single TB-3 equipped Mac.
Not only is this device a great idea, I'm incredibly excited for it!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9331/intel-announces-thunderbolt-3.
i'm not sure but i don't think thunderbolt is part of the USB-C specification, intel just selected it as the connector type.
So your happy to pay 2 grand MORE or what ever ridiculous price Apple would charge then? Just because you want a thinner laptop if that's your reason? Because Apple will never lower the prices of their new Mac Mini or MacBook Pro, considering they only increase them.
You would be happy to get TOTALLY RIPPED OFF?
We need a similar solution that the razor core has. A 5k monitor with a dedicated pcie slot for a graphics card while connecting to it via usbc 3/thunderbolt 3. Or just build it in with an option to replace with a standard card?
It's not the apple way but maybe another brand can do it. Then even any old laptop without a gpu can game at home? I don't see it as a big market but hey maybe there are other things adding a gpu can do too.
It's not the apple way but maybe another brand can do it. Then even any old laptop without a gpu can game at home? I don't see it as a big market but hey maybe there are other things adding a gpu can do too.
Nope, not for me. I don't need a dedicated PC Or hackintosh. I'm gaming quite happily on my 2012 iMac still. I know it struggles on the newer more graphically intense titles but turn down these games to 1080p and lower some settings and I game just fine still. I can't wait to soon upgrade to a 5K iMac soon whenever they update it.
To each their own for sure, but I'm never going to invest in additional computers especially if they're just going to run Windows or I have to forfeit convenience and customer support
Does Thunderbolt 3 have the bandwidth to drive a graphics card and still be able to do other thunderbolt duties i.e.; USB, FaceTime camera, etc?
So why does Apple charge the exact same for the baseline iMac as they do for their current 27" 1440 resolution display? They ALREADY match the price of a full blown iMac computer, if it matches a full blown 5K iMac then that's an extra £1449 UK Sterling! That is around three quarters the cost of the max spec MacBook Pro 15" in the UK.
Three and a half grand for a laptop and monitor, considering the performance on offer it would be incredibly poor value and you would be getting ripped off.
Who from Apple said it was going to be 2 grand? Right. No one has. It's pure speculation.
I don't believe 2 grand for a second.
I did based on the FACT that the current 1440P Apple display costs the exact same as the baseline iMac. More fool you if you believe a 5K Apple display with a decent GPU in it would cost the same or less.
Baseline iMac:
http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/buy-mac/imac?product=MK142B/A&step=config#
Apple 27" Display:
http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MC914B/B/apple-thunderbolt-display-27-inch?fnode=8a
I edited my post because I realized there may be more flexibility in the type of GPU used. Apple may decide to do this and have BTO options for GPUs in the new Thunderbolt Display like they do with their iMacs.
I fully believe Apple could put lower end GPUs and keep it down to under $1500.
It's unlikely that would be used for tasks that impact gamer framerates. Actually displays do a certain amount of internal processing as it is. Things like portrait mode and lookup tables have been supported on the display end in the past. They don't actually bolster performance. They implement some task that isn't deemed feasible without a custom solution.
That is all I would expect from it.
They don't really do price updates most of the time. Everything went up a bit in price when they went to higher resolutions. The 5K imac came back down. I don't think they're going to approach 5K imac pricing for what amounts to just a display.
I guess you don't remember how expensive the ThunderBolt Display was when it first came out. At the time of its release, 999.99 was pretty outrageous. I could be wrong, but there were only a handful of screens that were in that price range.
There is an 27 inch iMac 5K for $1700, why would a monitor with GPU cost more than an iMac?
Well, I hope this isn't true.
Like everyone else said : a 5k screen with non-upgradable GPU is ....
I will find it better to have solution like : Razer, Asus or Powercolor (and it's based on AMD XConnect Technology which was introduced on March 16th, 2016 by AMD).
http://www.powercolor.com/us/News.asp?id=1247
http://www.cnet.com/products/asus-rog-xg-station-2/
Ok for a 5k Screen... but with a TB3 BOX... Not a All-in-One please...
Perfect for all... A 5K screen @ 999$ and a BOX @ 399$ (without GX Card... dreamin')
But we're talking about Apple here... so the BOX will be sealed with a AMD Polaris GPU.
And for starter the AMD Radeon RX480 with the BOX : 699$
PS: it's strange... the Dell 5k Ultrasharp UP2715K is 1539$ on Amazon.com
BUT on Amazon.fr it is 957€...
Like everyone else said : a 5k screen with non-upgradable GPU is ....
I will find it better to have solution like : Razer, Asus or Powercolor (and it's based on AMD XConnect Technology which was introduced on March 16th, 2016 by AMD).
http://www.powercolor.com/us/News.asp?id=1247
http://www.cnet.com/products/asus-rog-xg-station-2/
Ok for a 5k Screen... but with a TB3 BOX... Not a All-in-One please...
Perfect for all... A 5K screen @ 999$ and a BOX @ 399$ (without GX Card... dreamin')
But we're talking about Apple here... so the BOX will be sealed with a AMD Polaris GPU.
And for starter the AMD Radeon RX480 with the BOX : 699$
PS: it's strange... the Dell 5k Ultrasharp UP2715K is 1539$ on Amazon.com
BUT on Amazon.fr it is 957€...
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