This has been a rumor for more than 10 years. Until Tim actually announces it I wouldn't put an ounce of faith in this claim.
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Apple’s 5K Thunderbolt Display Could Include Its Own Graphics Card
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Ok, yea that's what I said. It could very well be $1500 (or less), like I said. Also in my original post I said it would be a worthwhile upgrade for MacBook and Mac mini users. I'm inclined to agree with you that for a MacBook Pro 15" user, it's not the best deal because your effectively purchasing two discreet GPUs. I think that's a waste of money myself. So it would be interesting if Apple still released a bare bones TBD for those types of users.
For Macs with iGPUs, I still think it would be a worthwhile upgrade.
Apple can't afford to wait to do that. The market of their primary product by revenue is saturated, there has been a concerted downturn in both present economic conditions and forward sentiment, and their computing division is beginning to look like what it was when Amelio was CEO. They have to come out with a substantial refresh on their computing lines; iOS primary draw is its cross-device integration and it's a joke on a Windows computer. If consumers aren't buying their computers, then they aren't getting a major benefit of the platform and eventually Apple's astronomical margins on iPhones will make the consumer seek better offers.
There is no evidence that this will actually be achievable, and there are no TB2 to tb3 adapters. TB3 is backwards compatible tho
And don't forget to sell the car too...you would need that money to buy the display...
I really don't see Apple ever removing the dGPU from the MacBook Pro ever. It's one of its most defining characteristics of being a Pro machine. The ability to take those graphics on the GO is what separates the Pro from the pack. I don't think they'd ever castrate the MacBook Pro like that.
Probably, but Apple has surprised us before. The 5K iMac was the price of an average 5K display when it came out (oh, and you get a computer), and the Mac Pros were cheaper than the competition when they came out.
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dont forget the Echo competitor!
it's such a messed up situation with DP 1.2/1.3 and Thunderbolt... I bet Apple's engineers are very unsatisfied with the situation themselves, but since the have to wait for intel.. very annoying!
Considering that it can drive high-end graphics like GTX970, I'll bet it can handle whatever low-end GPU they put in this plus the peripherals.
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Gamers are by definition the people who have the most time to sit around and complain about stuff. I play CS:GO occasionally and have to listen to random complaints about stuff I've never heard of. But seriously, I really doubt this is going to help much with games.
The "X" bit is the roman numeral for "10". If they progress on to a new major version number it will be MacOS 11 (or something completely different like MacOS 2016) and not MacOS X 11.
I probably just completely missed the joke though given you were comparing to X11 windowing system.
Not to put a damper on things, but DisplayPort 1.3 can't do 5K/10-bit over a single cable unless compression is used...
So let me get this straight: thunderbolt 3 can drive a 5k display at 60hz but DisplayPort 1.2 can't. Why does it matter that DisplayPort 1.3 isn't coming until next year if thunderbolt 3 can drive the display?
It's possible, but the current one is drastically overpriced relative to the market. I can understand why people purchase imacs, but there are both better and cheaper options out there than the thunderbolt display. If they actually sold a lot of units, it would have seen an update in 2012 or 2013 to match the new imac style.
I imagine they'll increase the price by $200-300 at launch. If they increase it more than that, it's likely because they don't intend to sell a large number of units relative to the size of their market. It's likely to be the imac without some of the internals.
But that's my worry if something like this display ever was made, Apple is obsessed with thinness and I can truly see them scrapping a dGPU in the new McBook Pro, and then offering a display like this as an alternative solution. Just so the new MacBook Pro could be thinner and lighter.
I would hope your optimism is well founded. Hopefully it's not too long before we find out.
I haven't bought an Apple product in about 5 years. And with the Hackintosh I built, it looks like I won't be buying anything from them for another 5 years.
Why?
Because they sell overpriced, underpowered disposable garbage. The last laptop worth getting from them was the 2012 MacBook Pro with a matte finish screen. Now they're all mirrors, with soldered RAM (LOL!!!), glued on batteries and only ONE slot for an internal drive (dvd drive was great being swapped out for secondary storage).
I swear, every year Apple just makes one boneheaded move that tops the previous year.
I could cope with no dGPU since the integrated GPUs are starting to be pretty fast. The Iris Pro 550 benchmarks around an nVidia 750M. I don't need a mobile powerhouse, but I'd love to get rid of my desktop entirely knowing that I can dock to a Thunderbolt 2 Display with eGPU which would turn my laptop (3.5lbs! Please!) into a desktop-class machine, complete with extra ports and power adapter.
Yeah but that mobile GPU in the iMac is pathetic. I thought it was a joke when they put it into a desktop. Doesn't help that the iMac is so thin either, we've got plenty at work and they all run hot and noisy as hell. I can't imagine what it'd be like trying to play games on those.
What a miserable experience.
Definitely. It would be nice to get nearly the same graphic performance from a light 13 inch by plugging into an eGPU. Portability when traveling, max performance in the office.