Inquiring cyclists would like to know what pump this is. Thank you.(...) I carry a small power bank (partly because I also have a cool battery powered mini bike pump).
Inquiring cyclists would like to know what pump this is. Thank you.(...) I carry a small power bank (partly because I also have a cool battery powered mini bike pump).
😂😂 idk what it is but I rarely ever drop my iPhones. they don’t tend to slip from my hands. I think I just am very conscious of holding on tight.Goodness these things are like a bar of soap, no way I’d be without a case lol
Please cite your source. This is the first I’ve heard this, and goes against what Apple says.The idea of charging between 20 and 80% was born because of a coincidence (read more here) and it is not based on anything truly scientific. The best thing a user can do is to let macOS/iOS/iPadOS manage the battery as it wants.
Actually, always keep your device as charged as you need, that is, use it normally. When it falls below 45-50%, charge it up to 100%! The only thing you should try to avoid—though nothing dramatic is going to happen if you forget this a few times—is to keep it plugged at 100% for too much time.
My 2023 MBP has 226 cycles and 98% health (though Coconut Battery says about 95%). I've charged it to 100% always and charged anytime between 10 and 50% when needed. I believe we users have many more important things to worry about than battery health.
It’s not giving up anything if you don’t need 100% of the charge most days.Am I getting this right - people are giving up 20% of charge capacity, to potentially save 4-5% several years down the road when they trade it in for a new model?![]()
You are assuming that everyone uses 100% of their battery ever day and that is not true. I limit mine to 80% and it is rare to get down to 30% on a normal day. On a heavy day, I’ll still plug in. Chargers are common. There is nothing missed.Yeah, limiting the max charge level to 80% won’t help the battery lifespan if you’re then discharging deeper on the low end to make up for it. It may almost be a wash.
Where the 80% max charge level really shines through is when leaving the device plugged in all the time. I think that’s it’s main purpose.
Day one iPhone 15 pro with overheating issue solved after a month:
With the iPhone 15 models that came out last year, Apple added an opt-in battery setting that limits maximum charge to 80 percent. The idea is that never charging the iPhone above 80 percent will increase battery longevity, so I kept my iPhone at that 80 percent limit from September 2023 to now, with no cheating.
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My iPhone 15 Pro Max battery level is currently at 94 percent with 299 cycles. For a lot of 2024, my battery level stayed above 97 percent, but it started dropping more rapidly over the last couple of months.
I left my iPhone at that 80 percent limit and at no point turned the setting off or tweaked it. There were some days when I ran out of battery because I was without a charger for most of the day, and there were other times that I had to bring a battery along to make sure I didn't run out of power. It wasn't always convenient to keep it at 80 percent, but there were days when it didn't have too much of an impact.
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It was always a treat when the iPhone randomly decided to charge to 100 percent, which is something Apple has baked in to the 80 percent limit to ensure the battery level stays calibrated.
For the most part, I charged using USB-C rather than MagSafe, but there was some MagSafe charging mixed in. There was probably a 70/30 split between wired charging and MagSafe charging. I did often let my battery get quite low before charging, and it didn't sit on the charger for long periods of time too often. Most charging was done in a room at 72 degrees. I'm adding this context because temperature is a factor that can affect battery longevity, and wireless charging is warmer than wired charging.
You can compare your level battery to mine, but here are a couple other metrics from MacRumors staff that also have an iPhone 15 Pro Max and did not have the battery level limited.
I don't have a lot of data points for comparison, but it does seem that limiting the charge to 80 percent kept my maximum battery capacity higher than what my co-workers are seeing, but there isn't a major difference. I have four percent more battery at 28 more cycles, and I'm not sure suffering through an 80 percent battery limit for 12 months was ultimately worth it.
- Current capacity: 87%. Cycles: 329
- Current capacity: 90%. Cycles: 271
It's possible that the real gains from an 80 percent limit will come in two or three years rather than a single year, and I'll keep it limited to 80 percent to see the longer term impact.
I did set my iPhone 16 Pro Max to an 80 percent limit, but I don't know if I want to continue the test given the lackluster results I had from 2023 to 2024. Will the thermal changes in the iPhone 16 models make any difference? Maybe, maybe not. There's a 90 percent charge limit option too, and that might be more feasible than 80 percent for most people, especially those that have phones with smaller batteries.
Let me know your current battery capacity and cycle count in the comments below, and weigh in on whether you think Apple's limits are worthwhile.
Article Link: Apple's 80% Charging Limit for iPhone: How Much Did It Help After a Year?
In theory yes. But like on an EV Automobile, 0% indicated isn't actually 0%. There is reserve that helps enable features such as Find My, and likely also to protect the cells.Running the battery to zero on your iPhone will likely damage the battery more than if you keep charging it to 100% every night. In this case 80% did you no favors… 😉
The idea of charging between 20 and 80% was born because of a coincidence (read more here) and it is not based on anything truly scientific. The best thing a user can do is to let macOS/iOS/iPadOS manage the battery as it wants.
Actually, always keep your device as charged as you need, that is, use it normally. When it falls below 45-50%, charge it up to 100%! The only thing you should try to avoid—though nothing dramatic is going to happen if you forget this a few times—is to keep it plugged at 100% for too much time.
My 2023 MBP has 226 cycles and 98% health (though Coconut Battery says about 95%). I've charged it to 100% always and charged anytime between 10 and 50% when needed. I believe we users have many more important things to worry about than battery health.
Lot of hand-waving arguments saying 0% is damaging.
Science says otherwise. HIGH state of charge is most damaging, followed by DEPTH of discharge. Hitting 0% is not ideal, but far better than charging to 100%.
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I’m sorry, but: Was that sarcasm?It was always a treat when the iPhone randomly decided to charge to 100 percent, which is something Apple has baked in to the 80 percent limit to ensure the battery level stays calibrated.
Iphone 15 Max Pro. Bought on october 2023, 149 cycles, 100% battery. Using 80% limit since day 1.
With the iPhone 15 models that came out last year, Apple added an opt-in battery setting that limits maximum charge to 80 percent. The idea is that never charging the iPhone above 80 percent will increase battery longevity, so I kept my iPhone at that 80 percent limit from September 2023 to now, with no cheating.
![]()
My iPhone 15 Pro Max battery level is currently at 94 percent with 299 cycles. For a lot of 2024, my battery level stayed above 97 percent, but it started dropping more rapidly over the last couple of months.
I left my iPhone at that 80 percent limit and at no point turned the setting off or tweaked it. There were some days when I ran out of battery because I was without a charger for most of the day, and there were other times that I had to bring a battery along to make sure I didn't run out of power. It wasn't always convenient to keep it at 80 percent, but there were days when it didn't have too much of an impact.
![]()
It was always a treat when the iPhone randomly decided to charge to 100 percent, which is something Apple has baked in to the 80 percent limit to ensure the battery level stays calibrated.
For the most part, I charged using USB-C rather than MagSafe, but there was some MagSafe charging mixed in. There was probably a 70/30 split between wired charging and MagSafe charging. I did often let my battery get quite low before charging, and it didn't sit on the charger for long periods of time too often. Most charging was done in a room at 72 degrees. I'm adding this context because temperature is a factor that can affect battery longevity, and wireless charging is warmer than wired charging.
You can compare your level battery to mine, but here are a couple other metrics from MacRumors staff that also have an iPhone 15 Pro Max and did not have the battery level limited.
I don't have a lot of data points for comparison, but it does seem that limiting the charge to 80 percent kept my maximum battery capacity higher than what my co-workers are seeing, but there isn't a major difference. I have four percent more battery at 28 more cycles, and I'm not sure suffering through an 80 percent battery limit for 12 months was ultimately worth it.
- Current capacity: 87%. Cycles: 329
- Current capacity: 90%. Cycles: 271
It's possible that the real gains from an 80 percent limit will come in two or three years rather than a single year, and I'll keep it limited to 80 percent to see the longer term impact.
I did set my iPhone 16 Pro Max to an 80 percent limit, but I don't know if I want to continue the test given the lackluster results I had from 2023 to 2024. Will the thermal changes in the iPhone 16 models make any difference? Maybe, maybe not. There's a 90 percent charge limit option too, and that might be more feasible than 80 percent for most people, especially those that have phones with smaller batteries.
Let me know your current battery capacity and cycle count in the comments below, and weigh in on whether you think Apple's limits are worthwhile.
Article Link: Apple's 80% Charging Limit for iPhone: How Much Did It Help After a Year?