They aren't abusing anything, just being optimal while following the laws. People can work to change the laws, and it looks like they have.
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Apple's Ability to Hire Foreign Workers May Be Impacted by Trump Overhaul of Work-Visa Programs
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I don't like the notion of simply "giving" Americans jobs. If they aren't the best qualified, why should they have it? We have many, many lazy people in this country. Some of the hardest working people I've seen are immigrants. Competition is healthy and keeps us from being complacent. I do recognize that a conversation needs to be had about what the other extreme of competition leads to: namely that the less qualified still need to be able to work in order to feed themselves and their families.
That's just semantics over the meaning of abuse. Are the tech companies breaking the law? Arguably so. The intent and phrasing of the law is to find workers otherwise not available in the US. For the most part those claims are bogus and one could describe it as abuse.
Where do I say that?
I only ask whether hiring somebody shouldn't be based on qualifications?
Also, I mention in another post that I have no problem with America first, IF the qualifications are equal.
From what I see that is not alway the case.
I'll give you that a lot of companies may work around the problem, as it is faster and possibly cheaper to get non Americans. I am talking about higher level jobs.
Not smart by any nation to exclude worldwide talent.
But companies will ship those jobs overseas and I am not ok with that. You cannot find fault with them because they say we have market all over the world and we need to be competitive. The problem is to link H1B and their green card process with employers and it should be decoupled. I think I-140 with EAD proposed by Obama could have solved the problem as stated by you but that rule was not implemented as expected and still employees are bound to their employers. I agree with you on employee portability as a long term solution. I think Canada has a better solution in the name of express entry.
We can see more startups once we get rid of the backlogs in the GC process and that step will in turn create more entry level IT jobs.
YES. GOOD. I hope it absolutely demolishes their ability to hire any kind of foreign engineer too.
Its not just the less qualified we have to worry about, we are encountering social problems relating to individuals that have simply chosen lesser paying, but none the less necessary, occupations getting crowded out. Teachers, policemen, firemen, your hospital staff, service workers, etc, can't afford to live and work in places like Silicon Valley. So increasingly these types of services will be filled by people that don't live where they work. It doesn't take long to figure out some of the ramifications of that being a wide spread phenomenon.
Exclude it, no. But we must properly account for the potential costs to our society. For example, if a foreign applicant is slightly better than the American applicant, and the foreigner is hired while the American is left out of work for an extended time, it risks the American tax payer dollars to support the out of work American and his/her family.
There is a simple work-around to this: move your business overseas, wholesale. It's so easy for us in the tech business and you quickly discover how many really good people there are with reasonable English skills in say, Lithuania who don't cost a fortune.
Of course this was already happening to an extent, but our First Imbecile President has accelerated this strongly. There is one PhD I was courting who basically refused to entertain a move to the US after this recent debacle, now we're making definite plans for a new office in continental Europe, probably Amsterdam.
Of course this was already happening to an extent, but our First Imbecile President has accelerated this strongly. There is one PhD I was courting who basically refused to entertain a move to the US after this recent debacle, now we're making definite plans for a new office in continental Europe, probably Amsterdam.
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They moved on from me for a foreigner. Maybe this'll help me if I reapply.
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Because of the differences in culture and mainly cost of living in various countries, Americans are more likely to ask for more money, and that's fine, so even if they're most qualified, they're the most expensive labor, as opposed to a genius *insert Asian country* who grew up in the slums and now has a MS, he won't ask for the extra 10 grand because, to him or her, the base salary is beyond what they ever dreamed of. Culture alone dictating salaries and hiring.
H1-B is one thing. But I have a friend on a L1. He's very worried. The L1 program allows multinationals to move talent around their different offices. They are being paid prevalent wages. My friend eneded getting a raise when he got transferred to the US.
LOL. That's a photo of Apple Retail employees. It shouldn't even be on this article as the topic has nothing to do with people at their level. Apple Retail is not the same as tech workers at Apple.
Editor Fail.
Look at the Japanese economy and what extreme isolation does, North America won't benefit in the long run by closing it's borders or by tightening rules surrounding employment. People will still come but instead they'll be forced to steal or cheat to make a living, resulting in higher crime rates. As much as everyone hates to loose out to foreign work, they fail to see the times when they win work from others. We all see bad things that happen as far bigger hinderances like terrorism, when in fact unrelated policies have giant impacts on us for many more years. Unplanned pregnancy/cost/legality of abortions resulted in massive rises in crime in the US in the 80s and 90s when disadvantaged families couldn't easily get them a generation earlier.
I think it's very easy to make knee jerk reactions that you think are great and will solve the problem but in reality paradigm shifts in policy can be devastating. I'm not sure i'd class working at the apple store in much demand of change, they have the choice of anyone stupid enough to work in retail. The core of apple coding, design etc is based purely on talent, to restrict that talent flowing from other countries means that talent might work on a non-US competitor. For apple changing the rules like this doesn't really help america.
I think it's very easy to make knee jerk reactions that you think are great and will solve the problem but in reality paradigm shifts in policy can be devastating. I'm not sure i'd class working at the apple store in much demand of change, they have the choice of anyone stupid enough to work in retail. The core of apple coding, design etc is based purely on talent, to restrict that talent flowing from other countries means that talent might work on a non-US competitor. For apple changing the rules like this doesn't really help america.
You are full of it! Get your facts straight... and we all came from Africa... please try to grasp a concept of first settlers / Indigenous people, the first humans to inhabit a certain area. In this case they are called Native Americans which crossed the Bering straight before it was actually formed.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States
It makes you the third-largest single-country economy in the world?
The country's GDP as a whole wont benefit, but a high productivity based on exploiting foreign workers isn't a healthy thing to do either. All that does is create civil unrest from the general citizens and then crazy people making crazy promises get into power.
Hence Trump wanting to build his wall so they can't get in as easily.
I agree with this.
You're getting thrown off by that picture MacRumors used too I see. Ignore it.
Seconds largest economy: China. A country known for being very in-house on development and pilfering intellectual property from others.
Actually science continues to evolve. It's not exactly factual that we all came from Africa either. I'm glad to continue learning.
http://wakeup-world.com/2013/12/16/dna-evidence-debunks-the-out-of-africa-theory-of-human-evolution/
Way too much sense and thoughtful reasoning for this forum.
Actually, I don't mind if Trump stabs into a hornets nest to put spotlights on bad situations which were tolerated way too long by previous administrations. That includes both parties. (He just got 600 million in savings from Lockheed after just telling them it's too expensive)
But, there needs to be some valid fact checking and treatment.
For example people with green cards should not have to deal with this, as well as people with 2 passports.
And, certainly never based on religion.
In the very end Trump will not be able to continue this and lose all the legal battles over it.
USA needs foreign workers, (usually for manual labor Americans won't do) and has missed decades of opportunities to come up with a workable guest worker program.
There is also international work to be done to help other poverty nations to get their economy to a point where people do not want to leave their country.
I expect a lot of cutbacks of "welfare/developmental payments" to these other nations, but that will only increase immigrants coming here.
For sure it is not as easy as closing borders and America First. That ship has sailed many moons ago.
Alright. I guess the problem could just be solved by the pay requirement Stella mentioned, where companies are required to pay foreign workers the same wage as Canadians, or in our case, Americans.
I have to admit, you have a good point. I just didn’t know about Canada’s foreign worker pay requirement until today. Well, I guess Trump could always implement that pay requirement and then remove the new H1-B restriction.
President works really hard at 70 years old. I don't know how he has so much energy being in meetings all day. His term will be like 100 years of normal President work in just 4 years. By the time people have a chance to protest, he is already moved on to the next problem.
Does this mean more jobs will become available to US citizens?
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Campaign promises are being kept as well. That's new in US politics.
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Campaign promises are being kept as well. That's new in US politics.
I think you misread my point or i didn't add enough to my point. Yes the person who is skilled the best should be given a job. I mean, I think we should look here 1st before going out of the country for jobs. Im pretty sure apple can fill their positions out of how many billions of people that live in the US.