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Apple's 'AdLib' Framework Brings Native-Like Functionality to iPad Web Pages
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Heh, the first thing I thought when I saw "AdLib" in the headline was "Man, that's a way better name than iAd".
Hmm... This ipad native app framework is looking more and more like "FRAMES", something the web had almost 20 years ago, but abandoned when the technology was over-used and annoyed the hell out of most web surfers... Interesting how apple is bringing the concept of frames back with the ipad.
I always liked frames, and only moved away from designing with them when they started losing favor and were deprecated in HTML 4. I always liked sticking to standards, so anything that is no longer standard is sadly discarded from my repertoire. If this can be made to work in any browser (no need for the touch events to be recognized for the overall design to work), then I'll probably pick it up and learn how to implement it, and otherwise, I might use it to make iPad versions of some of the sites I run, though most of them work fine as is, so probably not. Nice to see it's using JavaScript and not something proprietary.
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The only thing I use extensively that could be considered old is Tables.
If I want a piece fo text to only take up half the screen its a lot easier and quicker using tables than defining it in CSS. I will fequently define the background, container width etc in XHTML/CSS but organizing the text is usually some form of table grid.
When I did web design I liked to use hidden frames to load content while other things were being displayed.
One immediate place that sites like MR could upgrade to support/iPad is the posting/editing replys... ...especially replys that are too long to fit in the reply box. The box cannot be resized, and the content cannot be scrolled (the whole page scrolls).
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This is what happens when Javascript is fast enough.
How many people here are old enough to remember when their 68040 based Macs (or Sun workstations and 486DX based PCs) were pretty snappy when running optimized compiled code, or games in hand coded assembly?
Well, Javascript in a web page on an iPad now benchmarks faster than the fastest hand-coded OS routines from back then.
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How many people here are old enough to remember when their 68040 based Macs (or Sun workstations and 486DX based PCs) were pretty snappy when running optimized compiled code, or games in hand coded assembly?
Well, Javascript in a web page on an iPad now benchmarks faster than the fastest hand-coded OS routines from back then.
fact
Hmm... This ipad native app framework is looking more and more like "FRAMES", something the web had almost 20 years ago, but abandoned when the technology was over-used and annoyed the hell out of most web surfers... Interesting how apple is bringing the concept of frames back with the ipad.
Frames weren't passed up because of what they accomplished - various scrolling views of content in a single page - they were passed up because of their technical drawbacks and navigational issues. A site that used frames made it impossible to link to anything deep within the site.
Then, css came along with 'overflow' properties and made frames irrelevant. You now have all the advantages of frames without the disadvantages.
I know we're getting WAY off topic here, but "easier" isn't better. Calling something a table when it doesn't contain tabular data is simply incorrect, and literally makes your document nonsensical. Might look OK visually, but semantically its a train wreck.
It like having a document that says: <blue>This is red.</blue>
I've never seen a table layout that couldn't be done faster and with less code via CSS. Of course, I've never learned how to do websites with tables, so that may be a very subjective assesment.
Well finally, all that functionality and performance without hogging my CPU and eating up my battery. Come to think of it, that's what's so great about the iPad, great performance and long battery life.
JooJoo gets 3 hours and MS/HP's slate gets 4 hours and I can only expect jerky performance.
Go Apple.
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I doubt Apple will release this or make it easy for others to use. They'd rather developers pay the yearly fee and make apps that only run on their touch OS. The more capable/snappy that webapps can be, the less incentive there is to do that. Especially since webapps can (be made to) run cross platform...
(Of course, this is not anything we didn't know already...)
(Of course, this is not anything we didn't know already...
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The "OMG" wasn't a big enough clue?
Apple probably doesn't want to be associated with that cult right now....
I support your cause - however, as a practicing and active Catholic I am deeply offended by your characterization of the Catholic Church as a 'cult'. Not that it will matter to you - but I wanted you to know that it is as offensive to me as calling your fight for same-sex marriage an abomination, which it isn't as I said I support your cause - in principal.
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What if I want to divide the webpage into two or more columns? Yes I can use float left/float right but that doesnt always work in all the common web browsers without some extra CSS hackery.
Maybe I should rephrase my statement, its a lot quicker and easier than CSS to get cross browser compatibility.
It was done a while ago
I guess people have stopped watching apple's other javascript framework, sproutcore. It's what' powers the mobileme site. And here is the commit that brings in the springiness.
http://github.com/sproutit/sproutcore/commit/c064aab937a0c6943bde29047f8bf213a59baf07
I guess people have stopped watching apple's other javascript framework, sproutcore. It's what' powers the mobileme site. And here is the commit that brings in the springiness.
http://github.com/sproutit/sproutcore/commit/c064aab937a0c6943bde29047f8bf213a59baf07
Not really these days but I can see where you're coming from if you still believe it's still quicker to misuse tables to create grid layouts and solve clearing issues. Most of the issues are with IE6 hasLayout bugs and pretty well known and fixed now.
Anyhoo, back to iPad fever...
...and IE7, and I still see some in IE8. More particularily trying to create columns and rows using DIVs. I would happily use pure CSS/XHTML/HTML5 if 'that' browser would hurry up. Firefox does some funky things sometimes too.