I have 2 6s and the iOS 9 one is still faster than the iOS 10 one most of the time despite being 1 year older...
I wondered why.
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I wondered why.
CPUDasher64 doesn't seem to be the best thing to check this with?
I am getting fluctuating speeds from one moment to the next from theoretical maximum to as low as I'd see if I had low battery mode on.
I am getting fluctuating speeds from one moment to the next from theoretical maximum to as low as I'd see if I had low battery mode on.
I certainly prefer Geekbench. It takes a performance measure over time, instead of an instant snapshot of whatever my processor is running at
That being said... my iP6 w/iOS11 with the old battery was indeed all over the place in CPUDasher. On my wife's iP6 w/iOS9 and now on my iP6 w/the new battery, they both read a constant 1400. Don't know what it all means, but it's clearly different behavior.
I've just confirmed my 3-year-old iPhone 6 is being throttled to 600 MHz most of the time. At least this explains why the performance has been so awful after upgrading from iOS 9 to iOS 11 a month ago.
There's an easy solution to this that I'd LOVE to see implemented in the next iOS release: a "High Performance" battery setting toggle. Put it right next to the "Low Power" toggle in the settings menu, and inform the user that enabling "High Performance" mode may cause poor battery life or shutdowns. When enabled, the CPU runs at full speed, no throttling.
I'd much, much rather have a phone I can actually USE when I'm in a hurry, instead of waiting constantly for apps to open and become responsive to input. Trying to use Google Maps has been infuriating, since I have to wait 10-15 seconds for the map to render, then another 5 seconds for it to let me tap on the search box to start typing. I have power plugs everywhere in the places I spend most of my time, and take a portable battery with me (or just a USB cable, USB ports are available pretty much anywhere) if I know I'll be out for a while.
There's an easy solution to this that I'd LOVE to see implemented in the next iOS release: a "High Performance" battery setting toggle. Put it right next to the "Low Power" toggle in the settings menu, and inform the user that enabling "High Performance" mode may cause poor battery life or shutdowns. When enabled, the CPU runs at full speed, no throttling.
I'd much, much rather have a phone I can actually USE when I'm in a hurry, instead of waiting constantly for apps to open and become responsive to input. Trying to use Google Maps has been infuriating, since I have to wait 10-15 seconds for the map to render, then another 5 seconds for it to let me tap on the search box to start typing. I have power plugs everywhere in the places I spend most of my time, and take a portable battery with me (or just a USB cable, USB ports are available pretty much anywhere) if I know I'll be out for a while.
How about the almost trillion dollar company called Apple explain why it is happening? Or at least provide the end user a popup telling them that their device is crippled due to low battery capacity?
Weird thing was my iPhone serial number wasn't in the range, and when I took it in to the Apple Store, the MacBook Pro they hooked it up to said that battery had been replaced. Talk about odd...
How come this got its own thread but not this one below from four days ago?
https://www.gsmarena.com/suppliers_of_iphone_x_components_report_lowering_orders-news-28645.php
https://www.gsmarena.com/suppliers_of_iphone_x_components_report_lowering_orders-news-28645.php
This is a real thing, my iPhone 6 had poor performance most of (but not all the time). Looking at cpu dash, less than 50% battery I had the same speed regardless of low power mode at 836mhz and when charged >50% the speed was 1136 but never 1400.
My battery in battery life reported as 75% and when apple changed my battery today they said the diagnostics came back at 80.something% .
New battery and it’s sitting at 1400mhz constantly. Should be good for a another year, looking forward to dropping $ on iPhone XI
My battery in battery life reported as 75% and when apple changed my battery today they said the diagnostics came back at 80.something% .
New battery and it’s sitting at 1400mhz constantly. Should be good for a another year, looking forward to dropping $ on iPhone XI
Coincidentally, I got my battery replaced today as all of a sudden my battery was draining faster than normal. Took one hour for the excellent customer service expected of apple. I didn't notice any change in performance, wet finger in the air, before the battery replacement or after. What I did notice is that the battery is no longer draining non-linearly.
Possibly because it's been reported previously in other threads. Or it's not really worthy of discussion. At any rate, we will find out apples numbers shortly. This fiscal quarter and the next will be telling.
You can also start a thread here with this link: https://forums.macrumors.com/forums/apple-inc-and-tech-industry.8/
[doublepost=1513047851][/doublepost]Exactly the same here.
That picture doesn't prove any point. It could be a hardware issue, settings issue, photoshop or maybe other types of things.
For what it's worth, I just ran Geekbench on my iPhone 6s, original battery, running OS 9.1 (jailbroken). My serial is not in Apple's replacement range, but I've noticed for the last year or so that any time I run it hard when the battery is below 50% (even something as simple as launching Facebook), the phone is likely to shut down, and be unable to restart without plugging in. I of course never knew whether to attribute this to the battery or something like that, or just to some quirk of the jailbreak, but it now sounds like it may be the battery. In fact, if the battery is low when it shuts down and it's plugged into a weak power supply (e.g. a cheapo USB charger), the phone can get into a loop where it restarts then shuts down again during the reboot process, over and over until it gradually accumulates enough juice to fully restart (and I don't think this is just a matter of battery quantity, since when it finally successfully boots the battery is often around 20%).
Anyway, when I first ran Geekbench at around 45% battery, sure enough, the phone shut down partway through the test.
So I plugged it in, ran Geekbench again, and got 2488 single, 4411 multi.
I let it charge up to 70%, then ran it unplugged, and got 2556 single, 4449 multi.
So either this is a null example; or restarting the phone before running the tests makes a difference; or this is not the same battery problem as others are having; or the fact that I'm running 9.1 means there's no throttling, but there is an increased tendency for the phone to abruptly shut down when engaged in high-power tasks.
Anyway, when I first ran Geekbench at around 45% battery, sure enough, the phone shut down partway through the test.
So I plugged it in, ran Geekbench again, and got 2488 single, 4411 multi.
I let it charge up to 70%, then ran it unplugged, and got 2556 single, 4449 multi.
So either this is a null example; or restarting the phone before running the tests makes a difference; or this is not the same battery problem as others are having; or the fact that I'm running 9.1 means there's no throttling, but there is an increased tendency for the phone to abruptly shut down when engaged in high-power tasks.
How can you actually prove its Apple affecting older phones and batteries.?
Older batteries don't much more of a charge anyway..
iOS 11 is just not that good on older devices... because hardware is not as good.
Apple won't tell you that because they want everyone to be on the latest OS anyway.
Older batteries don't much more of a charge anyway..
iOS 11 is just not that good on older devices... because hardware is not as good.
Apple won't tell you that because they want everyone to be on the latest OS anyway.
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I have an iPhone 6s, which I got just before the iPhone 7 came out (poor timing I know, needed a phone at the time).
It was one of the few affected by the battery issue, which arose only about 6mths after having it. It would turn off at 30% saying it was flat plug it in and working. Apple replaced the battery. Problem gone.
Over the next 6 months my new battery was good but drains REALLY quick. I was usualy on 20% at 1-2pm after charging the night before. Went to Apple guy said some things we abnormal but delete some power hungry apps and come back. Did that which didn’t help. The next guy was hopeless and basically told me I use my phone to much, it was passing the hardware test.
Funny enough I haven’t had any slow down issues since iOS 11. It still works great! So I since got the Apple battery case a week ago. I’ll use this phone until I can’t or about this time next year when the new X is out and I’m out of contract.
It was one of the few affected by the battery issue, which arose only about 6mths after having it. It would turn off at 30% saying it was flat plug it in and working. Apple replaced the battery. Problem gone.
Over the next 6 months my new battery was good but drains REALLY quick. I was usualy on 20% at 1-2pm after charging the night before. Went to Apple guy said some things we abnormal but delete some power hungry apps and come back. Did that which didn’t help. The next guy was hopeless and basically told me I use my phone to much, it was passing the hardware test.
Funny enough I haven’t had any slow down issues since iOS 11. It still works great! So I since got the Apple battery case a week ago. I’ll use this phone until I can’t or about this time next year when the new X is out and I’m out of contract.
It happens on 10.2.1 and up. Would be nice if you upgraded up to 11 and test in the name of science lol.
This is the exact behavior you'd expect from an un-throttled CPU combined with an older battery. The difference in your benchmarks is only 3%, which seems within normal test-to-test variation (background app usage, etc.). People running iOS 10.2.1 and above on older batteries are seeing differences of 20-50% from what you'd expect. That's definitely due to undisclosed CPU throttling, as evidenced by apps that are reporting the CPU speed directly from the OS itself.
You should try downloading one of the CPU speed apps (such as CPU Dasher), I'm willing to bet your processor is running at 1850 MHz.
I just wanted to update since my earlier post. Battery has dropped to 13% and CPU Dasher is now reporting a clock speed of only 600 MHz on my 6s. Geekbench down to 1089/1769.
Lately I have been experiencing quite a few issues with my 6s. I got my 6s in July of 2016 a couple months before the 7 came out which looking back was a stupid thing for me to do. Anyways I live in Iowa and I have been having issues with my 6s the past few months and I think cold weather has something to do with it. I work 2.5 miles from home and when I get in my car in the morning or in the afternoon to come home, I put my iPhone on my passenger car seat and it will drop 10% or more just on the short drive home which is under 10 minutes. If it is in my pocket it doesnt drop at all. Other examples are I was using my iPhone with the flashlight one night and it was around 40 degrees outside and I had 50 percent battery. After about 3 minutes of using the flashlight, my iPhone died and after about 20 minutes it turned back on and I had 20 percent left. I have just noticed that if my iPhone gets a little bit cold, the battery drops like crazy. Sometimes it will die with 10-15 percent left and I am able to turn it back on and unlock it and then it will die again and I am able to keep doing this. Another time I was playing music through a Bluetooth speaker and had my iPhone sitting in our garage and it was maybe 50 degrees in there and my iPhone battery was full and within 30 minutes drained down to nothing and turned off. It was cold to the touch so I put my iPhone in my pocket and after a few minutes it turned back on. My 6s seems to have a lot of problems with a little bit of cold air. Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this. Could this be related? I would classify it as an unexpected shutdown. Another thing before my iPhone dies, it sometimes gets really laggy and slow and after reading this discussion thread, it must be throttling down to nothing trying to perserve battery life. This is only happens when it gets a little bit cold. Anyone else experience any of this?
[doublepost=1513058092][/doublepost]Just want to post this here. Here is a screenshot of Geekbench. The bottom benchmark is when my battery battery was around 40%. The rest of them on top is when my battery was charged more. It seems like it is throttled down more when your battery is under 50 percent. Anyone else notice this? This just does not seem right. No wonder iOS 11 ran so slow on my 6s that I downgraded back to 10.3.3 while I could and I am still on 10.3.3
[doublepost=1513058092][/doublepost]Just want to post this here. Here is a screenshot of Geekbench. The bottom benchmark is when my battery battery was around 40%. The rest of them on top is when my battery was charged more. It seems like it is throttled down more when your battery is under 50 percent. Anyone else notice this? This just does not seem right. No wonder iOS 11 ran so slow on my 6s that I downgraded back to 10.3.3 while I could and I am still on 10.3.3
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Yep, 1848 to be precise. Glad I stayed on 9.1 all these years, even with the occasional spontaneous shutdown.
One more reason to stay put even with an imminent 11 jailbreak...
Because people see Apple conspiracies everywhere. Plays well to the whole "Apple goes out of their way to screw the customer every way they can and is doomed now that Steve Jobs is dead and Tim Cook has taken over" narrative.
We must not let Apple get away with this sort of nonsense. I am furious.
