Apple's App Store Still Number One in Revenue Despite Google Play Growth

Keep in mind piracy on android. A lot of people use expensive android apps but don't pay for them. Piracy is nearly impossible on a non jailbroken iOS device.

That might be one of the reasons why everybody jailbreaks their iOS devices. And in several cases you have to jailbreak your iOS device in order to even make it useful: iBlacklist comes to mind, just as an example. That app allows a jailbroken iOS device to do things that Android devices can do out of the box...

I think it comes down to a few simple facts why the AppStore still creates more revenue than Google Play:

- Android devices come pre-installed with most of the software that most people only need; when I look at my Galaxy Note, there's only a fistful of additional apps on it that I had to download - and except for a few games, all of those were actually FREE

- The Android market works differently and has a different audience; people tend to accept adware and prefer free apps over pay-for apps;

- Android is not a "premium" market like the iOS market, although premium products exist in the Android ecosystem as well; people with thick wallets who also like to show their money are not necessarily the target audience - but let's face it, those are definitely Apple's preferred customers

It's only a question of time until Google Play will also generate more revenue than the AppStore. It's a simple question of numbers - more Android devices are sold than iOS devices, and the sheer product variety attracts more customers to the Android market than to Apple's two or three different products; the "fragmentation" of the Android market actually is a great thing for customers, it gives them choice. Apple will also never enter the market for 40 to 80 dollars devices - in the Android ecosystem, such products are already being sold in second and third world countries. In those regions, smartphones will soon take over the tasks for which people previously had to use computers.

Apple might sell higher quality products than most of its competitors, but in most parts of the world that simply doesn't matter because nobody can - or wants to - afford them. For many people, a smartphone is not a lifestyle product or a status symbol, it's just a tool.

Basically, if you want to use a car analogy, Apple is like BMW: They only build upper middle class products and a few upper class models. Android is like the Volkswagen-Audi Group: Most of the cars they sell are in the Golf or Beetle class, but they also have upper class models like the Phaeton or the R8.
 
They couldn't have sold 187 million Android phones in Q2 if they hadn't first gotten rid of the 163 million in Q1, right?

Those phones are going somewhere. I'm assuming it's to actual paying customers.

Unless there's wormhole in the warehouse.

Or all those Android phones are going to the landfill in New Mexico next to the E.T cartridges. :D



Exactly. I'm so sick of this argument. Yes, the manufacturers and retailers are engaged in a giant conspiracy to produce huge numbers of devices they can't sell, writing down millions in losses to... make Apple look bad?

I think not.
 
You missed what I said.

The Japanese have plenty of top quality phones that run their own OS.
I am guessing they are starting to use Android as the OS instead of in house OS for their phones.
Japanese seem to prefer traditional big-screen flip style, with keyboard, over the simple one piece iPhone deign.

I thought you meant that you were surprised that Apple and Android basically split, and that you thought Apple would have been more. Not sure how to account for the "in house" OS as I wasn't aware this was a popular option.
 
Based off the number of Android units out there, it is only a matter of time before Google passes Apple in the revenue department for apps. The fact that Apple has maintained says a lot though.

The Android Tablet line is just so small it's invisible :p

The tablet world for android is still miles behind iPad when it comes to apps meant for the device and not just pixelated, blown up, phone apps.
 
You'd think they should distinguish among universal vs iPhone only / iPad only apps.

I completely disagree. Nothing irritated me more than having to buy an app on the app store only to find out that I needed to buy the "iPad version" of virtually the same app for my tablet.

Having one app that is able to be used AND optimized on Google Play for phone and tablet is fantastic and saves money.
 
Based off the number of Android units out there, it is only a matter of time before Google passes Apple in the revenue department for apps. The fact that Apple has maintained says a lot though.

The numbers games don't work that way in this situation... the demographic that buys Apple products spend tenfold amount money on apps that Google does. Look how far ahead Android is compared to iOS in terms of marketshare... yet iOS still dwarfs Android in revenue.

Only way this happens is if the demographic of Apple goes to Android...
 
Apple is the same. They can only quote sales on product purchased directly from
the Apple web site or from their stores - this only accounts for less than 15% of their total sales. Everything else is "Shipped".

Ah the shipped quote...so silly and funny how people cling to this metric.

HP shipped 1 million Touchpads ya know and sold 25k.
 
Exactly. I'm so sick of this argument. Yes, the manufacturers and retailers are engaged in a giant conspiracy to produce huge numbers of devices they can't sell, writing down millions in losses to... make Apple look bad?

I think not.

The problem is that everyone has to take the argument to the extreme.

The fact is that we are dealing with relatively transparent numbers on Apples side with quarterly reporting of shipments and channel inventory.

On Android's side, we have estimates of shipments of unspecified devices running an unspecified OS.

Obviously, Apple is significantly more efficient at turning shipments into sales. I hope that not many people would argue with the claim that they manage their channel shipments much more efficiently than all the companies counted among Android combined. A lot more Android devices are heading to landfills and sitting on store shelves than iPhones.

That said, I doubt the difference is anything more than a few percentage points. Nowhere near the big difference that the anti-shipment crowd takes as obvious.
 
Certainly not surprised, given that apps tend to cost more on iOS, and you can't get a refund for apps you've purchased on the App Store and turned out disappointing. I mean, crappy apps are everywhere, but at least you can get a refund on Android.
 
Did you miss the fact that people actually download more stuff from Google Play than they do from App Store? Also, the difference in store revenue does not tell the whole story. Most Android apps are free/ad supported. In this case, the developers get money from the advertisers. This money is not counted as store revenue but it feeds the ecosystem just the same.

People downloads more apps from GP because they are looking for the good app thy want amongst all the mailware/viruse crapware that festers in the GP store.
 
Google Android populates hundreds of million less expensive portable devices in China and India, making it a ubiquity. Apple sees this but does not know how or wish to compete in the arena. Maybe with the introduction of cheaper iphone model will shift market share slightly, but I doubt it will change the scenario in light of $199 tablet and handsets made in China.
Nevertheless, the $ bottom line is all important. It's Samsung who has been making $ with $700 phones, not Google. Apple knows this also, and they are Ok with it for it's a fair fight.
In the tablet market, the only notable competition for Apple is actually Amazon, really.
 
Certainly not surprised, given that apps tend to cost more on iOS, and you can't get a refund for apps you've purchased on the App Store and turned out disappointing. I mean, crappy apps are everywhere, but at least you can get a refund on Android.

You can get refunds from the IOS store aswell http://www.labnol.org/software/itunes-app-store-refunds/13838/

Look at the second picture “I inadvertently purchased this application.”. I have got refunds from apps I bought in IOS so it works. Thats another Android factoid put to rest.
 
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People downloads more apps from GP because they are looking for the good app thy want amongst all the mailware/viruse crapware that festers in the GP store.

Is this hyperbole that makes arguments useless
 
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Apple is the same. They can only quote sales on product purchased directly from
the Apple web site or from their stores - this only accounts for less than 15% of their total sales. Everything else is "Shipped".

No they are not. They are the only company that actually reveals end sales.

The others will not reveal sales, there is a reason, because their sales vs shipped is drastically different.

The proof, was in the Apple vs Samsung trial when Samsung was forced to reveal Galaxy Tab sales and their shipped was in the high 10s of millions and their sales were around 1.5 million...

Sorry but shipped is not and never will be an reliable metric for knowing anything other then how many are going to be returned to sender.
 
No they are not. They are the only company that actually reveals end sales.

Wrong, they state shipped units for all of the units not sold through the Apple Online Store or the Apple Stores

The proof, was in the Apple vs Samsung trial when Samsung was forced to reveal Galaxy Tab sales and their shipped was in the high 10s of millions and their sales were around 1.5 million...

I would like to see this, you have repeated a lot of times but I still don't have anything to back this claim
 
In the tablet market, the only notable competition for Apple is actually Amazon, really.

Amazon sold 1.5 million tablets last quarter (based on analysts estimation)

Apple sold 14.6 million tablets last quarter (based on Apple actually ****ing telling us)

What notable competition??
 
I am surprised Japan is going with Android. I can only guess it is because the national handset makers are going with Android OS over in house designs.

Pretty sure it's mainly due to the fact that Japan's biggest carrier – NTT Docomo – still does not have the iPhone. They have about 50% of the Japanese mobile market. That's a far higher share than, for example, either Verizon or AT&T have in the US.
 
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163 million Android smartphones were shipped 2 quarters ago compared to Apple's 37 million.

187 million Android smartphones were shipped last quarter compared to Apple's 31 million.

That's 350 million new Android smartphones in just the last 6 months... an incredible number compared to Apple's modest 68 million. And that's not even including all the existing Android phones... in which Android has handily outsold Apple smartphones for quite some time.

So are people simply not using all those Android phones for apps?

Android phones have 6 times the market share of the iPhone... yet the iPhone is beating them in app store revenue.

Something must be going on.


Very positive for Apple.

How many companies make Android phones, how many companies make iOS phones?

It's pretty impressive that one company (Apple in this case) can shift so many devices against such a large number of competitors and still have more revenue...they must be doing something right.
 
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