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i find it sad that this site always seems to post topics like "apple's e-peen is bigger than android's" just to stir up the crowd.. while i frequent other sites, since i love all thing tech.. you rarely see topics like this over at droid-life. and everyone here is so defensive when they see the competition doing well.
 
I think the issue is that one by one, Google is passing Apple's landmark accomplishments...
1.) iOS used to outnumber Android in daily sales worldwide
2.) iPhone used to always be the #1 phone sold each quarter
3.) iOS used to be the #1 Tablet OS
4.) AppStore used to have more apps
5.) AppStore used to have more downloads/day
6.) It's only a matter of time before Google Play surpasses AppStore revenue (At This Rate)

I'm a fan of Apple's past. Let's hope together for the future.

1.) 1 phone vs 1000 cheap ones expected.
2.) Compared to number 1, I don't think a single android device sold more than a new release iPhone but I may be wrong?
3.)iOS is still the #1 tablet OS, are you going on installs? I don't see an android tablet within a 2km radius.
4.) If you've ever tried to submit an App to the Appstore you'll know what a mission it is so only the determined will get in. In saying that I don't feel more is better cause I already find the Appstore has too many apps.
5.) means nothing
6.) This is gonna be a while, people are already hard pressed to buy apps from the Appstore, buying apps from the Playstore when you android was made to be hacked?
 
No, it just means that more people are willing to part with money for a high quality App. At no point did I say a high quality App cost more. Some of the free Apps on iOS are significantly better than the equivalent version on Android.

Well, you were replying to that guy making a statement about GP app quality with this chart. Essentially you were implying that because GP makes less money he was incorrect about his quality statement. Thus the money question came into play. I was simply pointing out that a great app does not have to cost money and you cannot judge the overall GP app quality over their revenue alone.
 
Based off the number of Android units out there, it is only a matter of time before Google passes Apple in the revenue department for apps. The fact that Apple has maintained says a lot though.



The tablet world for android is still miles behind iPad when it comes to apps meant for the device and not just pixelated, blown up, phone apps.

Considering that Android already has 80% of the market, I'm not sure how Google will pass Apple in revenue if they haven't already.
 
That said, I doubt the difference is anything more than a few percentage points. Nowhere near the big difference that the anti-shipment crowd takes as obvious.


Exactly. I'm an Apple shareholder, I love my iPhone, but they're struggling. The recent article on the decline of Apple's share of smartphone profits is very concerning to anybody who is looking at Apple's ability to perform well going forward.

Shaving 20 percent off of your share of your primary market segments' profits in a year is a pretty big wake up call.
 
Considering that Android already has 80% of the market, I'm not sure how Google will pass Apple in revenue if they haven't already.

A good chunk of this world marketshare is made up of $40 dollar whitebox phones and $75 whitebox tablets that are sold in India/China. The kind running GB and thrown together with about $15 bucks worth of parts. None of these devices are part of OHA and thus will never contribute at all to Google Play's revenue since they lack GApps.

Source?

Google announced 900 million activations on May 15, so they are probably around 1 billion now. Your statement would seem to imply over 2 billion Android devices have been shipped.

IDC has estimated 1.2 billion Android smartphones shipped through Jun 30. Throw in another 100 million Android tablets, and we're still not anywhere close.

I purchased a very cheap whitebox tablet and it still activated through google's service when I created a gmail account. It was missing GApps though.
 
I am curious, does the 30% cut that apple gets from in app purchases included in the revenue? I am just asking because Google Play doesn't have that rule or they don't get a cut from in app purchases.
 
But the puck might be moving so slowly in that direction that the game will be over (developer bankrupt), before the puck ever gets there.

According to the chart, revenue is increasing rapidly. Not sure what you are talking about.

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Piracy aside - not here to debate that - but you don't need to be rooted in order to install non Google Play Store apps. Just a simple checkbox in settings to allow non market apps.

You are correct.
 
play store's growing more rapidly they'll soon overtake app store, but this isn't where the real war is going on, the real war will be "iphone 5s vs nexus 5" i'm eagerly waiting for this.
 
Exactly. I'm an Apple shareholder, I love my iPhone, but they're struggling. The recent article on the decline of Apple's share of smartphone profits is very concerning to anybody who is looking at Apple's ability to perform well going forward.

Shaving 20 percent off of your share of your primary market segments' profits in a year is a pretty big wake up call.

That's a big leap in logic! I think Apple's supposed "struggles" all come down to the overwhelming success of the iPhone 4S making year over year comparisons unfavorable. If you look at FY2012 as an outlier, Apple's growth has been remarkably consistent.

To put your claim that Apple is struggling in perspective, Apple's "disappointing" Q1 FY2013, was the fourth most profitable quarter by a corporation ever. Behind three oil companies. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_corporate_profits_and_losses
 
Did you forget that "Android" is sold by dozens of manufacturers?

It's kinda silly to compare "Android" to a single company like Apple.

Do all those dozens of companies demand 30% of the turnover? I maybe completely off-track here but isn't that the reason why Apple's revenue is that high? A steady and reliable 30% of every app, tune and iBook sold? It's kinda silly to compare 'skimming 30% off every sale' to 'Android' don't you think?
 
Do all those dozens of companies demand 30% of the turnover? I maybe completely off-track here but isn't that the reason why Apple's revenue is that high? A steady and reliable 30% of every app, tune and iBook sold? It's kinda silly to compare 'skimming 30% off every sale' to 'Android' don't you think?

I was talking about dozens of manufacturers of Android phones... Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola... and countless others.

That's why Android has 80% market share.
 
You must be joking

Joking about what?

I hear this all the time... Android is the Windows of the smartphone world.

Anybody can sell a computer with Windows on it... and anybody can sell a smartphone or tablet with Android on it.

However... Apple is the only manufacturers of Macs, iPhones and iPads.
 
Joking about what?

I hear this all the time... Android is the Windows of the smartphone world.

Anybody can sell a computer with Windows on it... and anybody can sell a smartphone or tablet with Android on it.

However... Apple is the only manufacturers on Macs, iPhones and iPads.

And? This is Apple problem.

The fact is that Windows has the majority of desktop OS market share and Android has the majority of smartphone market share

Companies that doesn't license their OS like Apple, Blackberry or Samsung with Bada will have less market share. And?
 
That's a big leap in logic! I think Apple's supposed "struggles" all come down to the overwhelming success of the iPhone 4S making year over year comparisons unfavorable. If you look at FY2012 as an outlier, Apple's growth has been remarkably consistent.

To put your claim that Apple is struggling in perspective, Apple's "disappointing" Q1 FY2013, was the fourth most profitable quarter by a corporation ever. Behind three oil companies. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_corporate_profits_and_losses

Q3 2012 saw the iPhone 5 with Apple's share of the profit in the mobile phone segment of around 75 percent. Right now it's sitting at like 53 percent.

That's a huge problem.
 
Companies that doesn't license their OS like Apple, Blackberry or Samsung with Bada will have less market share. And?

I agree with that.

Like I said in an earlier comment... dozens of manufacturers make Android devices... compared to a single company like Apple.

I know exactly why Apple has less market share... and why a licensed OS like Android has more market share.

I didn't think I was disputing that. :confused:

Sorry for the mix up.
 
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