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Yeah right. Apple uses mind control to magically control your finger to touch the update button that is inside the software update view, which is inside general view, which is inside setting.

i did not initiate any download, and i had auto downloads and background app refresh turned off. OS8 downloaded on my iPhone and 2 iPads without any permission from me.

I really resent this. I do not wish to update to OS8 yet, i live in a rural area and at home i am on a 3G system, with a mini wifi modem, with a small capped limit. That's all i can get where i live, and 3 GB is a massive amount of data for me, especially for something I don't want!!! Even if I had unlimited data, I want to decide myself when I want to update.

This is a serious issue. Apple now decides when you will update and forces this upon you, a total evasion of my rights to choose when I wish to consume. They are doing it to bump their statistics on uptake of their new operating system. If everyone is passive about this, no protest about this, then I believe we will get force fed a lot more than an operating system.
 
Well, all i know is Apple told me directly that the user may receive notification an update is available, but its up to the user to download under Settings.

So I dunno whats different here. And I myself by the way have never seen this auto download happen either..

Yes, iOS 8 is out, but i'm still on 7.x, and have not got any auto download of software update, never have.

I'm not even intending to update either.... iPhone 5s and iPad (4th gen)
 
It has never happened to me before either, but also happened to a friend the same day and she also had auto downloads and background app refresh turned off.

It has happened to many other people on these forums.

You do still get to choose whether to install or delete, but Apple can now override the auto download restriction and for people with data download restrictions this is a serious problem.

I have been told that Apple can only do these forced downloads when your devices are on wifi and plugged into power. From now on I will charge my devices overnight with wifi turned off, and unplug power when I turn wifi on.

But I do not want anyone downloading large files to my devices without my permission. It is a form of assault. It should be illegal.

You might have fast and unlimited internet at your home. But you might be somewhere else, on someone else's limited system, when this happens. Whoops, sorry, I've just used 3GB of your monthly data allowance, or Apple has.

If they're going to use my internet without my permission they can pay the bill. Imagine if every Apple user said that ...see how quickly this abuse would end.
 
ok, i can now back this up..

It just happened tonight,,

It has indeed been downloaded, but not installed. :p

That sux.
 
If they updates are forced, then how come that so many people here haven't updated yet?

The downloads are forced, you can choose to install or delete, but the download is now forced upon you.

I recommend that people who are still on ios7 and want to stay there for a while yet, check Software Update on yr phone or iPad, if you have been on wifi, plugged into power, and there is enough free space for it on yr device you might find a great big 3GB SURPRISE there.
 
Factoring in the human characteristic that the brain forgets bad things much more than good things, I see no real indications that iOS 8 is worse than any previous OS updates. In fact, I remember hearing after every single OS upgrade (iOS and OS X) as long as I can remember people saying that Apple isn't as good as it used to be. Either there has been a straight downward trend over the last ten to fifteen years, which would mean that Apple is much, much worse now than back in the early days of the Internet (when hearing comments from a lot of other people became possible) or this is just a perception thing based on that universal human trait.

As complexity increases, so does potential problems. But I'm not alone with this feeling:
This is from The Verge's iOS 8 review:

That isn’t to say iOS 8 is without fault — in fact, it feels like one of the buggiest, most unpolished versions of iOS in years. In my testing, there weren’t any noticeable performance or battery life degradations compared to iOS 7. But there are inexplicable bugs everywhere: a keyboard that refuses to appear when you need it, or an interface element that remains stuck in landscape when you rotate the phone back to portrait. No iOS launch has been without bugs, and Apple’s iterations in the weeks and months that follow tend to smooth a lot of things out. (iOS 7 didn’t get really great until 7.1 was released, a full six months after 7.0's launch.)

...and today we witnessed Apple pulling iOS 8.0.1 after reports of the update killing cell reception and Touch ID.

I have no hard evidence – and I don't feel like building a database of historical bugs all rated on how big a bug it was – but, as a dedicated user (professionally and personally) I feel like I experience more and more bugs in Apple's own software. And sadly, many are never fixed.
 
As complexity increases, so does potential problems. But I'm not alone with this feeling:
This is from The Verge's iOS 8 review:

That isn’t to say iOS 8 is without fault — in fact, it feels like one of the buggiest, most unpolished versions of iOS in years. In my testing, there weren’t any noticeable performance or battery life degradations compared to iOS 7. But there are inexplicable bugs everywhere: a keyboard that refuses to appear when you need it, or an interface element that remains stuck in landscape when you rotate the phone back to portrait. No iOS launch has been without bugs, and Apple’s iterations in the weeks and months that follow tend to smooth a lot of things out. (iOS 7 didn’t get really great until 7.1 was released, a full six months after 7.0's launch.)

...and today we witnessed Apple pulling iOS 8.0.1 after reports of the update killing cell reception and Touch ID.

I have no hard evidence – and I don't feel like building a database of historical bugs all rated on how big a bug it was – but, as a dedicated user (professionally and personally) I feel like I experience more and more bugs in Apple's own software. And sadly, many are never fixed.


Apple has pulled OS updates many times before. Remember the one where a missing set of brackets actually caused serious data loss? They haven't had one of those for a quite a while now.

And if we compare OS X 10.0 with OS X 10.9, the original version was buggy as hell and that continued for while. For quite a number of versions of OS X, we saw the reports that now with 10.Y, OS X is finally solid. Or track how much stuff broke (in particular in regard to third-party applications) with each OS upgrade. Long lists and databases of which apps to fine on a new OS version existed for several major versions. OS X really has gotten much better (which is not surprising, the more time they had the more bugs got fixed over the years). Do you remember the quality of the original SMB support?

Yes, new stuff is initially more buggy, that's the nature of software. Remember the first few online offerings with MobileMe and .mac? With MobileMe Apple even made a public apology and Eddy Cue was brought in from the iTunes Store to help fix things.
 
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The downloads are forced, you can choose to install or delete, but the download is now forced upon you.

I recommend that people who are still on ios7 and want to stay there for a while yet, check Software Update on yr phone or iPad, if you have been on wifi, plugged into power, and there is enough free space for it on yr device you might find a great big 3GB SURPRISE there.

You must be updating it wrong ;), no download forced on me here. And you are confusing the amount of free space needed which is in the 3 to 5 GB range, and the size of the download. On both my iPhone and my iPad the download was about 1 GB.
 
It's OK but it's buggy as hell.

I have the weird battery drain, the battery percentage does not show in the lock screen, Facebook app has become even more glitchy than usual (I never thought it was possible), and when you use a third party keyboard, then lock the phone without closing the app using the keyboard (messages etc), you can't use the keyboard again without coming away from the screen and back to it.

You'd think that with that long beta testing period, they would have cleared those bugs out. I don't remember iOS7 being so buggy when that was new.

iOS 7.0 gave us random resprings.
 
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