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Apple's App Store Usage Numbers Suggest 46% Adoption Rate for iOS 8

Meaningless.

I have a 4s and don't want to update, as it seems it will slow down my phone. Apple pushed the update to my phone and used most of my carefully managed free space. I'll probably update just to get that space back.
 
Given how many iPhone 4 there are just on my office floor, many of which haven't even upgraded to iOS 7 because the performance is terrible, I'm gonna go on a whim and call BS on those "5% earlier" stats.
 
iFitzgerald said:
I'm still on iOS 7. I'm waiting for more review of iOS 8 on the iPhone 4S to see if I want to upgrade or not. Also might wait until one or two bugs squashing and performance improvement updates are released.
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I'm also waiting to upgrade my 4S to iOS8 especially after this (speed) review and i saw a colleague with iOS8 on his 4S which was pretty slow (scrolling in e.g. setting, music album covers, safari speed, youtube app speed).

I hope that iOS8.0.1 or 8.1 even will be a bit quicker for 4S. I know it's an 'old' iPhone but it still works great with IOS7.1.2 and I don't want to spend 550 euro for a 5S (16GB) or 700 euro for a 6 (16GB version) yet especially because i want a 32GB or 64GB in my future iPhone.
 
Amazing

It is amazing what happens when you push an OS update to every device that supports it. The only way to free up near 1gb of storage is to actually install the update. And considering that it costs a lot of money/GB of storage on iDevices, people just do it to get rid of the update notice.

Unfortunately, Apple should have held off pushing the update for older devices. There used to be a time when only new devices got the iOS update, and then a few months later an optimized version of iOS was pushed to older devices. Now Apple just seems happy to cripple old devices so that you will want to upgrade to iPhone 6 and I am sure the next iPad's, which is kind of a ****** business model that should be beneath Apple.

Overall, this iOS 8 was a pretty ****** rollout for anybody without an iPhone 5s or iPad Air and newer. This once again speaks of a complete lack of vision and quality control under Tim Cook's leadership. I am sure he will happily stand on a stage somewhere and boast about how fast iOS 8 was adopted but then completely ignore how many millions of iDevice users Apple has pissed off forcing a crappy "beta" update on everyone.

Of course, having a well timed "leak" of celebrity nude pictures just before iOS 8 might be spurring on iOS 8 adoption too...
 
jellomizer said:
The older then iOS7 crowd consists mostly people with iPhone 4 and lower.
iOS 7 ran poorly on the iPhone 4, so many didn't upgrade, and how many people do you actually see with an iPhone 3G and lower. I went to the AT&T store this week and I had an original iPhone, most of the employees never even saw it before.

Being that the system prompts people there is an update and they just click on a button to update. Means most people will click Yes. So people with iPhone 4s and newer will just update. However people with the 4s may want to stay on 7.
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There are conflicting reports about 4S with iOS 8.
Tried a few times and got errors (No reasons why) , so just in case the naysayers are right I'll stay on 7. (Makes sense)
 
the bugs are there for some, mostly not i assume, as every update provokes a slew of forum and thread complaints, but just like any product, those enjoying its perfection rarely have a reason to speak up.

i have no problems with anything, nor does my gf or one of her friends (my only sample group so far). and 'issues' people are having with space and deletion (and 'forced downloads', which i'm highly skeptical of), seem to always complain about things that go wrong after doing them as not recommended by apple. i knew to update via itunes, since wifi or LTE/4G is not 100% reliable. i certainly wouldn't complain if something went wrong or i chose to delete content in order to make it fit (without seeking better information about the process).

all i see in b*tching is about a 20-30% legitimacy rate. the rest is just moaning, often based in slight ignorance (not the 'slanderous' ignorance-accusation, just "hey, you didn't get all the facts and now you're paying the inconvenience fee")
 
Kebabselector said:
No half of the visitors to the App Store have been using iOS8 - No surprise really as everyone with iOS8 will need to visit the App Store to update the no longer working apps.
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The automatic background checking for app updates should also count as connecting to the app store. And this automatic checking also takes place if the automatic download and update is not enabled. The only way to stop is to not be connected to the Internet or to the use of disable cellular data for the app store app (and not connecting to WiFi). I also don't remember since which OS version this automatic checking for app updates exists (ie, some older OS versions might be excluded).

If exclude those having switched of cellular data for App Store app explicitly, this statistic should count the vast majority of iOS devices that are actually still in use.
 
Imory said:
Still sitting on iOS 7 with my 5. Apparently there have been some mixed results and I do expect a bug release or performance increase from Apple soon. It should happen fairly soon, given that Health Kit and iCloud Photo Library were stripped away in the last minute. I assume they'll include some bug fixes in that future release. Not to mention that certain apps haven't gotten updated yet and some features require Yosemite.
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I haven't had any issues with my five. But I also don't find the changes particularly compelling on the five. Maybe the prudent thing is to wait for the first update.
 
roadbloc said:
I'm not saying Apple should let iOS 8 run on the iPhone 4. I'm saying Apple should support their older versions of iOS for a while instead of ditching it immediately and then slowly discontinuing features on it for no apparent reason other than 'screw you, you should have updated.'
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The iPhone 4 came out in 2010. It's been supported for more than just a while.
 
ghettochris said:
:cool:

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you don't, but don't expect to update apps or get new apps either.
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And expect previously working features to go too. Like the app store and facetime. There is no reason why these features have to stop functioning, but they do.
 
hope they release an update to iOS 8 sooner than later, still seems pretty buggy on my 5S
 
nightstalkerz said:
Only iOS devices which have accessed the App Store in the past week.

Kind of like how Google measure it.
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That's a bit self-selecting.. Because visitors that don't have devices to update are going to stay away while people preparing to upgrade are going to be hitting several times a day for app updates.

Do developers really care that somebody downloaded their app a year ago and never updated it? I had a 3GS until last month and about half the iOS 6 apps were still being updated regularly. At the same time certain new apps were just never going to run on my device and I was ok with that.

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Glenny2lappies said:
I've looked but I don't think I'll leap until at least the next update and only then after you lot have tested it for me!

What's the emoticon for smugness?
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I'm also a Mac user so I'm holding out a few more weeks until Yosemite is closer so I don't goof up the iCloud stuff. In the meantime everybody is updating apps like crazy that still support iOS 7 so it's still fun times getting new things... And fewer broken apps after the upgrade just by holding out a few extra days.
 
roadbloc said:
Its that sort of thinking that allows Apple to get away with their premature obsoletion of older devices. Why do iPhone 4 users have to buy a new phone just to do exactly what they could do on it before?

I'm not saying Apple should let iOS 8 run on the iPhone 4. I'm saying Apple should support their older versions of iOS for a while instead of ditching it immediately and then slowly discontinuing features on it for no apparent reason other than 'screw you, you should have updated.'
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iPhone 4 is 4 years old. It was supported for a whole year after the last time they sold it new. In techHappyFunland 4 years is like "forever". Find Android phones supported by the MANUFACTURER with OS version that far back?? Nobody does that. I've had Windows Phones before and makers rarely supported OS updates, one update at the very most if Microsoft didn't torpedo the specs... Let alone apps that still managed to work.

Apple has spoiled the hell out of everybody.
 
greytmom said:
What? All my devices had plenty of space. None of them automatically uodated.
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They don't automatically update but they will automatically download the update in the background. It's not the big issue everyone is making it out to be.
 
The Bogeyman said:
It's OK but it's buggy as hell.

I have the weird battery drain, the battery percentage does not show in the lock screen, Facebook app has become even more glitchy than usual (I never thought it was possible), and when you use a third party keyboard, then lock the phone without closing the app using the keyboard (messages etc), you can't use the keyboard again without coming away from the screen and back to it.

You'd think that with that long beta testing period, they would have cleared those bugs out. I don't remember iOS7 being so buggy when that was new.
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Most of what you mentioned is third party which they need to fix their own bugs. Facebook is always buggy as seen in thier monthly updates. Cannot replicate the battery percentage issue you mentioned.
 
Piggie said:
So 46% of "ALL" iPhones out in the world today are running iOS8 are they?

Are they really?

What do you think?
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Since it seems you didn't read even the first sentence of the article, why should anyone waste their time addressing your question? No reason to think you would (could?) read that either.
 
Yea it's pretty hard to clear off half of your phone to install this new Os. Waiting til I get my 6 to put ios 8 on my everyday phone.
 
iSee said:
Since it seems you didn't read even the first sentence of the article, why should anyone waste their time addressing your question? No reason to think you would (could?) read that either.
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Thanks, yes I can, then I saw the chart that others will read that is designed to mislead and the thing that will stick in people's mind.

Headlines and bold charts are the things people remember long term and refer back to, not the small print that actually explains what is the real meaning.
 
Jimmy James said:
Meaningless.

I have a 4s and don't want to update, as it seems it will slow down my phone. Apple pushed the update to my phone and used most of my carefully managed free space. I'll probably update just to get that space back.
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At the very least, I would think you could get rid of the install / update files with a phone wipe. Just backup your phone locally to iTunes or with iCloud. Then just do a wipe / erase all (not a restore) and reload the backup from iTunes / iCloud. Then turn off Auto-update to prevent it from redownloading the iOS 8 install?

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manu chao said:
Or you could just delete it (Settings -> General -> Usage -> Manage Storage).
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roadbloc said:
Its that sort of thinking that allows Apple to get away with their premature obsoletion of older devices. Why do iPhone 4 users have to buy a new phone just to do exactly what they could do on it before?

I'm not saying Apple should let iOS 8 run on the iPhone 4. I'm saying Apple should support their older versions of iOS for a while instead of ditching it immediately and then slowly discontinuing features on it for no apparent reason other than 'screw you, you should have updated.'
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Actually Apple maybe doing iPhone 4 users a favor by leaving it alone. The iPhone 4 would probably be slow as molasses using iOS 8 leading to a lot of complaining. I am typing this on an iPad 3 running iOS 5. Couldn't be happier with it and glad that Apple is not remote bricking my device to force me to conform.
 
manu chao said:
Or you could just delete it (Settings -> General -> Usage -> Manage Storage).
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Doesn't that manage iCould storage? (That's what it seems to show for me.) Now, on my iPad (iOS 8) there's a "Manage Storage" for the local device. But on my phone that list appears directly in the Usage list (initially it shows the top 10 along with a button to show all.)

BTW, how can I see the space this update is supposed to be taking up on my iPhone 4s (I'm running the latest update of iOS 7, I think)? It's not listed anywhere in the local storage list.

It does say I'm using 23.1 GB, but when I total the storage used by all my apps I get to something less than 22 GB... is that it?
 
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