Apple's AR/VR Headset Display Specs: 5000+ Nits Brightness for HDR, 1.41-Inch Diagonal Display and More

Iʼve read that Apple has invested over $40 billion dollars in VR & AR — the price of $3000 seems reasonable, it could have been higher.

$1500 is the cost of production for the headset.
 
MrRichardH said:
Why does a display that's right in front of your eyes need 5,000nits of brightness when the TV across the room from you tops out at maybe 1,500nits? Laughable.
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Because it isn't 5000 nits once the light reaches your eyes. There are lenses in front of these displays.
 
Folks! We may need to buy a new headlamp to handle this AR/VR headset. I’m going to Walmart today to get one. 🛋️🔆

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sza said:
Is it just me who think this AR/VR thing isn’t that useful at all compared with the AI technology like ChatGPT? ChatGPT is already becoming an essential tool for me.
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One is not yet delivered and the other you are actively using. Of course, the latter is going to seem more useful.

Everything not yet invented but coming in the future is completely useless today compared to what we are using today. However, when we gain access to those things, tomorrow will be today and perspective may be very different.

A few minutes ago I was using a screwdriver to screw in a screw. In that moment, that $10 screwdriver was far more useful for that purpose than the Mac Studio Ultra through which I'm now making this post. That's another cut at perspective. Screwdriver > Mac Studio Ultra when screwing in a screw. Mac Studio Ultra > Screwdriver when doing something online. I can't even begin to tell you how difficult it would be to post this message using only that screwdriver. ;)
 
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tekboi said:
I believe with the price point being rumored, it will definitely cater more towards developers who want to build their applications and tools before they finally release a cheaper and more consumer level device.
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There’s nothing to “believe”, that has always been the plan. Next year they’re planning on releasing a consumer version for half the price.
 
5000 nits it's nothing special, it just means they use pancake lenses, while using that brightness is reduced by factor 10 so visible brightness will be 500 nits
 
more rumors that suggest the rumored price will indeed be ~$3k ...
Now, let's just wait a few more days for the actual specs ...
 
UltimaKilo said:
There’s nothing to “believe”, that has always been the plan. Next year they’re planning on releasing a consumer version for half the price.
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Says who?

In my long-term experience, the only way Apple rolls out much cheaper offerings is by chopping desirable stuff out of them. So what do we want cut from the rumors about this to end up with this half-price product?
  • 4K lenses to 1080p? Or maybe SD quality?
  • Rumored M2/3 cut to maybe A8?
  • Less Graphics?
  • Less RAM?
  • Less Battery?
  • Less Cameras/lower quality cameras?
  • Cheaper materials?
That's the only way it works with Apple for meaningfully lower pricing. Recall the pitch for Silicon: "With Apple not having to pay the Intel premium anymore, we can get much cheaper Macs" I'm still watching for those much cheaper Macs. Where are they?
 
UltimaKilo said:
Ah, someone who doesn’t understand anything about lenses and VR. Embarrassing comment.
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He has a point. I think OLED and 8k has a much larger impact in image quality than peak brightness. A well cinema theater screen is calibrated to 48 nits. Full color dynamic range, as in real blacks, is way more important to perceive and excite our eyes cone cells.
 
Cyberke said:
5000 nits it's nothing special, it just means they use pancake lenses, while using that brightness is reduced by factor 10 so visible brightness will be 500 nits
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It’s why Sony went with Fresnel. Still, this is V1 of the headset and Apple is making headway with lense tech, let’s see if they go pancake with V2.
 
MacRumors said:
According to Young, the 5000 nits likely refers to peak brightness, which means that it won't blind users, but will instead provide superior contrast, brighter colors, and better highlights than other headsets that are available today.
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5000 nits means 5000 candela / m^2. So in other words, it would be 5000 nits if you combine multiple of these panels for a combined panel size that covers m^2. Hint you need many, many of these panels to cover one m^2. ;)
 
This'll probably be nice for watching movies on, which is something. Which leads to the realization that I really just want AR/VR goggles that are primarily movie watching devices when traveling. Put me on a plane with comfortable kit that gives a movie-theaterish experience while drowning out the environment around me (and controls that don't make me look like a lunatic while trying to operate it). That sounds like a winning application of VR.
 
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