Apple's Automobile Project Said to Include Self-Driving Cars

[Renzatic]

Driving implies moral decisions and a human conscious, I don't think machines are better at that.

There are upsides and downsides to self driving vehicles. If everyone is going from Point A to B, you don't need that deep of a level of attention. This'll become more true the more widespread they become. It'll be an automated system, moving thousands of little cars along a series of tracks.

But even the best designed automated system can't account for every fly in the ointment, which is where something like a self driving car would fail. For that reason, I wouldn't make the system either/or. Your car is self driving when you want it to be, but can be easily overridden if you need or want to drive yourself.

 

[497902]

How many self driving cars have you ridden in? How were they more comfortable than cars you have driven yourself?

None. They are more comfortable in the way that you don't have do drive them yourself.

I wonder what the safety record would be if there were 200+ million of them on US roads each day?

They'd be even safer than they are now. They evolve.

Air travel is safer than auto travel, put a billion planes in the air and see if that changes a bit.

Yes, but the safety records are made by disasters per million flights and accidents per million car trips.

It is totally irrelevant that there are more cars than planes. It doesn't make a difference in the statistics.

 

[AppleScruff1]

None. They are more comfortable in the way that you don't have do drive them yourself.



They'd be even safer than they are now. They evolve.



Yes, but the safety records are made by disasters per million flights and accidents per million car trips.

How many self driving cars are currently on the road now? I happen to love driving as do many people, so the comfort bit is personal preference.

 

[Bryan Bowler]

This looks very strange, but I hope it's true and that it has a nice design.

It will be made of alu-min-u-mem and be as thin as possible.

 

[bushman4]

It took Apple 4 years with the watch and a car is much more complex. So a car is many years away

 

[497902]

How many self driving cars are currently on the road now? I happen to love driving as do many people, so the comfort bit is personal preference.

Listen, if you chose not to trust self driving cars then don't. It's just about as rational as the fear to fly.

 

[nando87]

It took Apple 4 years with the watch and a car is much more complex. So a car is many years away

Cars are already much more perfect than smartwatches, and they're outsourcing production, of course.

 

[robjulo]

Like they did with maps and icloud?

Apple like going into markets where the devices have poor user experiences and where they can see a way of making them much better (e.g. iPod, iPhone, iPad). So cars fit right in with that.

But while I am happy to pay £2000 for a new laptop every few years, I am not going to get a £40,000 car. So I can't see myself ever getting one of these.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Listen, if you chose not to trust self driving cars then don't. It's just about as rational as the fear to fly.

It has nothing to do with trust or rationality. I asked a relevant question, How many self driving cars are on the road today? We have decade upon decade of air travel and automobile safety statistics. What statistics do we have for self driving cars?

 

[497902]

It has nothing to do with trust or rationality. I asked a relevant question, How many self driving cars are on the road today? We have decade upon decade of air travel and automobile safety statistics. What statistics do we have for self driving cars?

Check this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_car

 

[aaronvan]

"Oh-oh, a DUI checkpoint. You do the talking, Siri."

 

[nando87]

Listen, if you chose not to trust self driving cars then don't. It's just about as rational as the fear to fly.

No it isn't. Planes do not go between pedestrians, animals and millions of other vehicles. In fact, the situations where planes are surrounded by much more objects (if I'm not wrong) are the situations they're piloted manually (taking off and landing)

 

[Thunderhawks]

No idea if this is true or not but I surely like the outlook to one day be able to say:

"Siri, bring me home!"​

From my Siri experience you'll be driving for a while and never get there.

 

[497902]

So, if you're driving and suddenly a child goes into the street following a ball, and on the other side there's a biker which is acting properly, and the car has to evaluate to hit the child and avoid the biker or hit the biker and avoid the child, considering the biker wears a helmet and has much more % of surviving success, who is the car hitting? And what about the insurance? Who will be guilty? Just a simple situation... And what about using them as weapons?

The computer would be programmed clever enough not to hit anyone and calculate the safest escape trajectory. That's something a human can't do in time.

 

[nando87]

The computer would be programmed clever enough not to hit anyone and calculate the safest escape trajectory. That's something a human can't do in time.

Computers can't avoid physics' laws. I said it, the safest trajectory would be hitting the child, because he has less probability of living, or the biker, because he has more? Who is programming that? The correct way is Mercedes' way, automated in some situations, like traffic jams, motorways...

 

[Eventdecay]

Vehicle automation

Apple are R&D'ing for automation at new campus.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Check this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_car

So essentially there are no self driving cars on the roads and there are no statistics to make any safety claims.

 

[497902]

No it isn't. Planes do not go between pedestrians, animals and millions of other vehicles. In fact, the situations where planes are surrounded by much more objects (if I'm not wrong) are the situations they're piloted manually (taking off and landing)

They still have to avoid other planes as well as storms and other weather related issues. Things that don't just happen during takeoff and landing.

So essentially there are no self driving cars on the roads and there are no statistics to make any safety claims.

They're still being tested and so far the tests were excellent.

 

[viorelgn]

But how many of the systems in a car are developed and manufactured by the car manufacturer, and how many of those systems are actually only specified by the car manufacturer and then developed by subs based on the subs own IP? I sincerely doubt that my car radio, even if it carries the name of the car manufacturer, is actually their own technology, and what is the situation for the other systems in the car, with the exception of the engine and the vehicle platform?

 

[Zelmung]

Tim..Tim? TIM…JUST BUY TESLA! The platform is already there for you to apple-ize. The world does not need another car company and you know that.

Why the hell would Apple buy Tesla? Tesla offered all their patents for free, which means that their IP is worth zilch. Right now, the only assets of value to Apple are the employees and founder. Elon will never work for Apple and it's cheaper to poach employees rather than buy out the whole company.

And in terms of brand, Apple doesn't need to boost its portfolio with Tesla. If there is an Apple Car, People will buy it regardless.

 

[AppleScruff1]

They still have to avoid other planes as well as storms and other weather related issues. Things that don't have happen during takeoff and landing.

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They're still being tested and so far the tests were excellent.

Planes aren't surround by objects a few feet away like cars are.

You keep bringing up the safety factor for self driving cars. All I asked for was statistics to show what you are claiming.

 

[elmaco]

The car needs to be reinvented.

- Self driving
- Seats turned against the center
- Symmetric
- Table with large OLED screen
- Point on screen where car should go for tricky situation
- Automatic parking
- Fold seats so you can sleep in it for long journeys

I can't get a driver's licence so I would get an Apple Car for sure.

 

[Zelmung]

It has nothing to do with trust or rationality. I asked a relevant question, How many self driving cars are on the road today? We have decade upon decade of air travel and automobile safety statistics. What statistics do we have for self driving cars?

Actually, Google published a 3 year report on the safety of driverless cars. Incident rate was about 1/5,000,000, whereas an human driving accounted for a probability of 1/5000. That, plus both of the two incidents that happened in Google's self-driving cars was caused by someone else hitting them.

 

[497902]

Computers can't avoid physics' laws. I said it, the safest trajectory would be hitting the child, because he has less probability of living, or the biker, because he has more? Who is programming that? The correct way is Mercedes' way, automated in some situations, like traffic jams, motorways...

The computer would detect the child long before it ran to the street and calculate its trajectory as well as the biker's. The car would come to a stop long before the situation occurs.

 

[nando87]

The computer would detect the child long before it ran to the street and calculate its trajectory as well as the biker's. The car would come to a stop long before the situation occurs.

Yes, sure, always, it reads people's minds and sees the future, and it if has to brake in 5 meters but the brakes have no such capacity, it does it too, because it's a computer, you know