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You people need to understand that these batteries are not you're typical Ni-MH rechargeable batteries. These are low self-discharge batteries that hold their charge for a long time without charging. If these are similar to Eneloops, they will hold a 75% charge for three years without being re-charged. That along with the 1000 + recharge rating makes them a good deal.


Yeah I want to know who is manufacturing these batteries and the charger. Doubtful it's some Apple exclusive, so learning who's making these will probably tell us alot about what to expect in terms discharge rates, lifespan, etc...
 
I have an old VARTA that takes 15 minutes with its specific batteries, and it charges them well.

Now I bought some other brand that is supposed to take less than 10 minutes, but I'm not having good results with their extreme 2850 mAh batteries. I think it's better with the smaller ones.

"supposed to" is kinda my point. I don't know the quality of this Apple charger, it hasn't even shipped, yet. But I would go with Maha for top quality. Even the 1 hour mode on those does not do 100% charge perfectly, like the 2 hour mode. And the fast modes are not good for battery longevity.

For this kind of device that probably doesn't matter. I also use batteries in digital cameras which need higher power, then it matters.
 
This comes with 6 low-discharge batteries. They cost much more than standard NiMH. Apple haters will complain about anything, even when they know nothing.

I'm never going to buy this, but at least I know what it is. :rolleyes:

yeah I said something dissing apple so I must be an apple hater :rolleyes: (vomits on your fanboy defence of apple)

yeah I get they come with special batteries but personally I dont recharge tons of batteries and then have them stored in a draw forever, I charge them, use them, and when they run out charge them again, simple
 
"supposed to" is kinda my point. I don't know the quality of this Apple charger, it hasn't even shipped, yet. But I would go with Maha for top quality. Even the 1 hour mode on those does not do 100% charge perfectly, like the 2 hour mode.

For this kind of device that probably doesn't matter. I also use batteries in digital cameras which need higher power, then it matters.

The VARTA and it's batteries are designed for 15 minutes. There is no other mode.
 
yeah I said something dissing apple so I must be an apple hater :rolleyes: (vomits on your fanboy defence of apple)

yeah I get they come with special batteries but personally I dont recharge tons of batteries and then have them stored in a draw forever, I charge them, use them, and when they run out charge them again, simple

Then don't buy it, because you already have lower-quality solutions. I won't be, because I already have higher-quality solutions.

You may want to consider this though: batteries in a mouse/keyboard are "stored" in it. And lasting longer between charges is usually considered better in such a device.
 
I'm surprised that this announcement came out as a *ahem* surprise. None of the rumour sites picked up on this. No spy pictures-no patent diagrams-no lost batteries found in bars-nothing!:p

Wow. Apple can keep a tight lid when it wants to!
 
This is not a bad kit at $30 CAD (no Canadian tax on this one?) for 6AA and the charger. Apple claim they retain 80% charge after 1 year on the shelf. Only the Eneloop and the Duracell Pre-Charged (Duraloop - rebadged Eneloop) ever had this claim among all LSD (Low Self Discharge) batteries. If they are rebadged Eneloop, this is a really good thing! If I didn't already have a truckload of Eneloop and Duraloop, I could consider this kit.
 
Simple, but...

Batteries are complex. Charging is complex. That is why high-end chargers have the capability of evaluating battery state of health, displaying cell voltages, allowing for user adjustment of charge rates, and performing battery cycling for testing.

This is not a bad deal, but I would have preferred to see Apple embrace some newer tech than NiMH - something with a lot more energy density, or offer up a charger that could be interfaced, via USB, to a Mac for advanced users who want more than an LED indicator and an AC plug.
 
This is fairly true actually. But this definitely does give more evidence for the strength of Apple as a brand. Let's face it, Apple could easily make a quick buck if they decided to market and sell toothbrushes tomorrow.

So an electronics company making a branded battery charger for their devices somehow means that people will buy anything from them

WOW.
 
Nice Apple tax on the charger.

I remember getting 8 Sanyo Eneloops AA batteries, 4 AAA Eneloops, 2 C-shell adapters, 2 D-shell adapters, a 4-battery AA/AAA charger that charges each battery individually and a blue plastic tool case to hold it all at Costco for less than this Apple charger. That was 2 years ago.
 
Every 3 weeks, what the heck are you doing? I am just getting ready to change my for the first time. I got my MM on day one.

I suspect he's using a 'dumb' rapid-charger, and killing his batteries in the process. It's likely not the mouse eating batteries, it's his charger.
 
SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER
Did anyone ever took Apple Batteries onto their Xbox 360 Controller

I'm saying this because some AA Batteries are much thinner than most AA Batteries if that makes sense

Yeah, those are called AAAs...
 
I suspect he's using a 'dumb' rapid-charger, and killing his batteries in the process. It's likely not the mouse eating batteries, it's his charger.

Actually, it may be the mouse eating the batteries. When not turned off when not in use with the small switch, the Magic Mouse eats a set of batteries within 1 month. By turning it off every times, the first set of batteries I used in it, lasted 6 months. It was a set of Energizer Lithium. I now switched to Eneloop/Duraloops.
 
Then don't buy it, because you already have lower-quality solutions. I won't be, because I already have higher-quality solutions.

You may want to consider this though: batteries in a mouse/keyboard are "stored" in it. And lasting longer between charges is usually considered better in such a device.

I have a lower quality solution, you really like the little digs dont you, how could you posibly say mine is a lower quality solution?, they are rechargeable batteries you charge them, use them and recharge them. plus I cant say I have ever noticed a significant drop in charge, perhaps if I left them for a year but over a few months there is no percieved loss
 
About as much of a bargain as the 'Mac-compatible' DVD-Rs that Apple used to peddle.
 
Would have been nice if Apple designed the charger in a way that you can have it sit on your desk and have it charge via USB or I wonder if USB port won't give enough juice.
 
I suspect he's using a 'dumb' rapid-charger, and killing his batteries in the process. It's likely not the mouse eating batteries, it's his charger.

Mine's the same. Either with rechargeable batteries (I'm currently using Sony's Cycle Energy, 2000 mAh), or with Duracell Ultra disposable AA's, I cannot have my Mighty Mouse up and running for more that 3 - max 4 weeks.
 
Hmm. This:
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Or this:
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Gee... Tough Decision

Here... let's make that decision just a little more difficult, shall we?

These require no additional charger at all-- just a USB port:
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tivoboy said:
this is a joke 25 quid for a battery charger!

5 years ago I bought my battery charger for £7 can charge 4 batteries at a time (can charge 2 at a time if you want) or 2 9V batteries, it stops its power draw when they are charged AND it came with 8 NiMH batteries.

people who buy this really will buy anything apple puts their name to and need their head checking seriously!!!

Yes, I think what apple has found is that for lets just say 75% of their target market, (it could be a bit higher, but most likely is not much LOWER) the 29$ price point is a relatively trivial expense. It represents for those people most likely less than one good dinner, less than a weeks worth of lattes or frapachinos at Starbucks, less than .5 a tank of premium fuel for a bmw, Mercedes, vw, audi, volvo, etc., less than the price of going to ONE movie for TWO people with a drink and popcorn (SHARED!), etc..

It might be the amount of money in a spare purse, or the amount of coins lying around the house or even in the sofa. At that point, they are willing to just GIVE it to apple, for an ipad case, for an iphone case, for a dock, for a set of batteries with a charger.

For the REST of the population, this amount might be 9.99$. for a segment of the population, this amount might be 19.99$,

for apple, it is 29$

And in the uk it's £25 which is a lot more than $29. As usual we get the apple tax plus the uk apple tax!!!
 
So an electronics company making a branded battery charger for their devices somehow means that people will buy anything from them

WOW.

I meant "electronic toothbrush". :) Trust me, it would sell. They'd find some way of justifying it, like having it compatible with Photo Booth or suchlike. If you can charge your batteries with Apple, you can certainly brush your teeth with Apple.
 
Sure they do, what do you think goes in the tesla?

I'll name three right now

Panasonic, sony, sanyo

there are probably dozens of additional Korean and Taiwanese manufacturers

The most likely battery type used in the Tesla? Bank upon Bank of A sized LiIon cells.

The 'standard' AA battery is a specific size, and produces 1.5v. NiMH 'AA' batteries are the same size and produce 1.2v. That's close enough that it's not a problem in practice. LiIon batteries produce 3.6v for a single cell. Over-voltage like that will kill anything expecting 1.5v, and even most things expecting 3v. Sure, you could include circuitry in each 3.6v cell to step the voltage down to 1.5v (or so), but that would increase the cost of the cells well beyond what anyone would willingly pay, and, due to the volume lost to the circuitry, reduce the available 'juice' significantly. (Like how those USB-rechargable AA batteries get about 1/2 to 1/3 of the usable life because of how much space the USB connector takes up.)
 
Am I the only one who is rolling around the floor laughing at a battery charger from a company that does not allow you to change the batteries in it's devices?
 
They could have a zero 'vampire draw' if it had a physical switch on it. It could even have some sort of (mechanical?) trigger that turned it on when cells were inserted next.
 
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