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I've been using the hell out of mine for the last three years and they _just_ broke. I'm not sure if the Airpods Max are worth the premium, but I'd want some kind of upgrade to go for another pair of these. For starters, they need to ditch micro USB and increase the battery life.
 
Pro feature number 1, move away from micro USB B plug. 😂
Cannot believe they got away with that for so long with the current price. (I know, they are almost always on sale)
 
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True in general, but fortunately not true for AirPods Max. Battery replacement is available as a service. It's $79, I believe. I've had mine since they first came out and have worn the batteries down to where they get maybe 6 hours. Not terrible, but I'll probably get the battery replaced soon. Otherwise they're performing beautifully.
Yeah, I'd go for the battery replacement. I never touched the Max phones but they look like they are big enough to make even consumer battery replacement possible. Not so much with the little AirPods.
 
I still don’t understand why this brand still exists.
Because they still sell really well, have a different design language from Apple's own gear, are cross-platform in a way the AirPods aren't, and have a more opinionated sound profile than AirPods. I don't see why it shouldn't still exist?
 
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I’ve had my Beats Studio and use them 5-6 days a week at the gym for the last 3 years and they are still kicking. I’ve wanted to get a new set just because but have been reluctant on the AirPod pro max because of cost and I got the beats on sale for like $180 or something like that. Not sure what to do. I’m certain these will come in significantly less than AirPod pro max.
 
Back then, things didn't have batteries and CPUs that die or are irrelevant after a few years. I realize that this is different than your build quality criticism but it's unreasonable to expect a product to last many years and also expect to pay very little for it. It's a little like asking Americans if they want products produced in the US. They are all for it until they see that the sticker price will double.
I will happily pay for US Made versions or even free-world made products. At least don’t let in high technology products be developed by China or the like.
 
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Back then, things didn't have batteries and CPUs that die or are irrelevant after a few years. I realize that this is different than your build quality criticism but it's unreasonable to expect a product to last many years and also expect to pay very little for it. It's a little like asking Americans if they want products produced in the US. They are all for it until they see that the sticker price will double.
The framework laptop is an example of how wrong you are. It is designed to last as long ans anything else AND be upgraded.

Just because something does last in it’s original form doesn’t mean it can’t be designed to remain functional for someone who wants to keep using it.

Headphones could easily have removable ear cups to easily replace batteries, but no one does that.
 
Interesting news … I need a refresh of my Beats Studio 3 that actually never let me down and was not sure I wanted to upgrade to AirPod Max … hopefully they will have a usb c port and support Atmos …
 
The framework laptop is an example of how wrong you are. It is designed to last as long ans anything else AND be upgraded.

Just because something does last in it’s original form doesn’t mean it can’t be designed to remain functional for someone who wants to keep using it.

Headphones could easily have removable ear cups to easily replace batteries, but no one does that.
For me, it's the iMac. I have a 2017 and it amazed me that I have to slice double stick tape to open it for cleaning. Apparently, Jony Ive didn't like screws because they ruined the lines of the back of the Mac. Silly.
 
I think it’s more about branding than anything else. Beats is hip, urban, etc. The type of folks who want to rock over the ear Beats simply aren’t interested in AirPods (and vice-versa). Apple targets two very different kinds of customers with Beats vs. AirPods. I don’t think it’s about Beats being AirPods SE at all. Beats aren’t cheap. Cheaper, yes, but not cheap. It’s about customer demographics.
It really isn’t and hasn’t been for a decade now. Since the Solo2 launched they’re some of the best headphones you can buy at similar price points.
 
The brand has influence, a large user base, and makes money. Much like Apple's brand.
It's also an indicator of prior quality. When I was a lad all the A/V equipment (film and slide projectors) were made by Bell & Howell. All quality stuff. You could drop it off a table and it would still work. ;) Bell & Howell went bankrupt and some company picked up the name. Now they are selling cheap junk like razors. They are selling on the B&H name as an indicator of quality.
 
The framework laptop is an example of how wrong you are. It is designed to last as long ans anything else AND be upgraded.

Just because something does last in it’s original form doesn’t mean it can’t be designed to remain functional for someone who wants to keep using it.

Headphones could easily have removable ear cups to easily replace batteries, but no one does that.
I don't think it's fair to bring in a laptop example to a discussion about headphones. There are giant markets that have emerged to support something like framework laptops and yet, they don't release sales numbers which tells me that it's not successful for various reasons.

Apple is a design company first and technology company second. What you're suggesting is akin to telling an artist to change their design so that it's more sustainable or inclusive for the audience. In other words, it will never happen like that with Apple.

What I could see happening is Apple eventually introducing their own eco-friendly line of products that cost more and have less features but include the ability to upgrade in some fashion or at least easily recycled or traded in for other value. The education, marketing and desire to upgrade products has to come from Apple first, not the customers. The customers can make all the demands they want but Apple can pivot enough to ignore those voices because they have so many other customers to target in countries like India who care about value but not so much about sustainability and upgradeability.
 
I will happily pay for US Made versions or even free-world made products. At least don’t let in high technology products be developed by China or the like.
If enough people like you put their money where their mouths are, Apple might pay attention. I think it would require an entire redesign for product distinction. If your USA made iPhone looks just like the China made model but yours cost an extra $300, no one is going to buy it. People want to hold up a new product and also to virtue signal to everyone that they care about jobs in their country and exploitation of workers in other countries. That only happens if Apple is on board from the start and designing products to express those values.
 
I don't think it's fair to bring in a laptop example to a discussion about headphones. There are giant markets that have emerged to support something like framework laptops and yet, they don't release sales numbers which tells me that it's not successful for various reasons.

Apple is a design company first and technology company second. What you're suggesting is akin to telling an artist to change their design so that it's more sustainable or inclusive for the audience. In other words, it will never happen like that with Apple.

What I could see happening is Apple eventually introducing their own eco-friendly line of products that cost more and have less features but include the ability to upgrade in some fashion or at least easily recycled or traded in for other value. The education, marketing and desire to upgrade products has to come from Apple first, not the customers. The customers can make all the demands they want but Apple can pivot enough to ignore those voices because they have so many other customers to target in countries like India who care about value but not so much about sustainability and upgradeability.
When I was in tech school, my prof said that sometimes the hardest part of a repair is getting the case open. Apple could go a long way in repairability just by making the cases easier to open.
 
We’ve had the Solo Pros and the Solo 3s and the hinges on the Solo 3s have been very fragile. The Solo Pros had a more durable hinge, as well as noise cancelling and a Lightning port for charging, but have been discontinued for a while.

Hoping these new Studio Pros at least have a stronger, longer lasting hinge (and maybe USB-C).

 
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