I don't think that is happening nor do I believe that that is what Craig was implying was Apple's direction.
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It will never happen. The whole point of Mac OS - the only reason for it to exist - is to allow a subset of people who know what they are doing to do things iOS/ipadOs won’t let you do.
It’s the same concept as having a smoking section in a cafe or a peeing section in a pool.
Even if I don’t smoke or pee in the pool, I am still going to be affected by the actions of the others who do, when the cigarette smoke invariably wafts over to my end. If I want a clean environment, the only way is to not have anyone smoke at all. No matter how much people tell me their smoke won’t affect me at all.
I can choose to stick with apps found in the iOS App Store, but what happens if and when developers start to make their apps available only in third party app stores in order to skirt around privacy restrictions like what Apple has implemented?
And the people likely to do this are the larger and more influential household names like Facebook and Google.
It’s naive to think that you can just stick to your side of the fence, I stick to mine and life will simply continue as is for both parties.
It does NOT need to be ALL OR nothing !
Third-party App Stores that prioritize/emphasize "App Discovery" should be the first step.
Easy to define & implement.
Apple wants it to be ALL OR nothing !
Epic & Spotify ALSO appear to want it to be ALL OR nothing !
There is middle ground that simply isn't getting ANY attention.
But that may soon change.
Third-party App Stores that prioritize/emphasize "App Discovery" should be the first step.
Easy to define & implement.
Apple wants it to be ALL OR nothing !
Epic & Spotify ALSO appear to want it to be ALL OR nothing !
There is middle ground that simply isn't getting ANY attention.
But that may soon change.
It's all about control, lock down and profit.
I think the pandemic has proven that it is far from a subset of users, and the amount of things that iOS and iPadOS won't allow you to do is much larger than people thought when it comes to productive work that earns an income.
Apple could just void AppleCare if you download apps outside the AppStore! AppleCare is what sets apple apart from others! No way they should or could handle the barrage of complaints that will inevitably happen!
Customer: apple let me download this bad app, apple should repair it
apple: sideloading apps voids AppleCare, have a nice day and goodluck!
apple: sideloading apps voids AppleCare, have a nice day and goodluck!
Apple can then choose to compete in the iOS app store marketplace and find ways to entice and incentivize developers that their store is where their apps should be as opposed to another iOS App Store created by another company.
Once Apple entered the ring of commerce with the App Store, they left behind all notion that it’s their device and their ecosystem. The rules of commerce are different and they have to play fair. They pushed too hard for too long and now people and companies are pushing back and Apple is being brought up on anti-trust and anti-competition charges in jurisdictions all over the world.
This could have been completely avoided if they had quietly added a “developer mode” and hidden the setting behind a few scary messages. Now it’s a world-wide and highly publicized issue that will ultimately end with a court dictating to Apple how things will change. The wall is coming down.
Time lays waste to all things, but I would still very much like for Apple to fight it for as long as they can.
Truth of the matter is that what these large companies want may not be what I as the end user want, and it may also not be in my best interests as the consumer that they get their way.
If it’s a fight they want, then it’s a fight I hope Apple gives them. Continue to fight and continue to win where you can, Apple!
If Apple locks MacOS to the App Store they better get the Microsoft treatment x1000000000000000000000000000000.
That article is getting a bit stale. In that time Apple has had many major updates.
Why 'Zero Day' Android Hacking Now Costs More Than iOS Attacks
Brokers of so-called zero day exploits are paying out more for Android than iOS—which would have been unthinkable until recently.www.wired.com
Google's security measures on Android have slowly been getting better and better over the years, one of the big reasons why is that Android's core is open source and thus a greater number of developers have had an opportunity to find bugs and zero days.
That’s fine! Apple can then choose not to update their software or charge for it! You wanted open, well here it is! AppleCare will become a thing of the past! Hell they could just make iOS iPadOS macOS an open source dumpster fire and still get rich like Microsoft!
Not possible. macOS is for developers (a huge revenue source for Apple). And thus macOS has to allow "side-loading" almost any user-space app...
... if one can build it from source code (your own or stuff on GitHub, etc.) with Xcode, not only on Macs, but, with a developer enrollment or Apple ID, install on ones iOS devices as well.
That's what raises the security bar on iOS. (L)Users who don't have a recent Mac, and don't know what source code is or how to write or build it can't easily install this extra stuff on their iDevices.
Aside probably being illegal, how would that help? The ability to side-load means apps not signed by apple can be run on my phone. That means i could be browsing a website, and if there’s a bug that is exploited (as has happened numerous times on macos and windows), an app can be silently installed on my phone and run without me even knowing it.
I produce music for a living, I work in multiple DAWs, every single plug-in I download for Logic Pro is not even available in the Mac App Store, I’ve spent thousands over the last decade, and the selection of AU’s in the Mac App Store is practically nonexistent. The only way for any musician/producer/composer/ to make a living is to download hundreds if not thousands of plugins outside the App Store. Malware is not rampant for the producing community, it never has been and never will be.
Legacy tech my ass.
Where do you think all applications are created? Phones? Tablets?
It's true in a way. Most of what you do on a Mac is through a web browser, vs on an iPhone where you download an app for many things. In both cases there's a good sandbox preventing it from affecting the rest of your system, but that's not the case with Mac apps. So you don't download an app on your Mac just to place an order at a restaurant, for instance.
The App Stores and allowing/disallowing sideloading are mostly different topics from that, though.
The App Stores and allowing/disallowing sideloading are mostly different topics from that, though.
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You might be the last person on Earth who uses a phone primarily as a communication device. Many will have different priorities. Also, nobody really checks the apps in the App Store for malware anyways, so it’s not clear if the alternative app stores represent any additional security risk.
Extremely doubtful. If that were true, no major OS vendor would ever need to release security patches ever again. And a secure OS require secure hardware, which also may not be realistic (see Meltdown and Spectre, et.al.)
Exactly, and if you want to see this in action, look at the Mac App Store. Probably the most downloaded app ever, Google Chrome, isn't on it.
To be fair, the MAS also sucks even for users. I've spent way too much time dealing with Xcode or an OS update getting stuck downloading or something, so I always opt for direct downloads.
Then people will not just buy AppleCare. Does Apple want that?
The status quo on Android doesn't favor him (or me), so we're not using it.