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The fact that they are coming out with a 6.1" LCD model shows they failed on the iPhone X.
Actually, the rumor of a 6.1" LCD model shows that they will probably come out with a 6.1" LCD model. The rest is just speculation on your part.

Not everyone wants an OLED screen especially at $999 and up pricing.
That's what we call a strawman. Apple doesn't think everyone wants an OLED screen. That's why they priced it high and released additional new models.

And the will still sell 60+ million of these phones with OLED screens priced at $999 and up.

Again, you are trying to use sales of 60+ million $999 and up phones as evidence of failure. That's utterly bonkers.
 
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Assuming this article is true, the fact that this will delay future iPhones from getting OLED is not good, but I’m glad Apple is getting a message that the iPhone X is priced too high.
 
The fact that they are coming out with a 6.1" LCD model shows they failed on the iPhone X. Not everyone wants an OLED screen especially at $999 and up pricing. Should be interesting to see how it shakes out when Apple misses their earnings estimates.
Not everyone wants an oled screen. The $999 was not the issue for me; I got headaches when looking at Samsung screens. I’m happy with a bigger lcd screen.
 
The fact that they are coming out with a 6.1" LCD model shows they failed on the iPhone X. Not everyone wants an OLED screen especially at $999 and up pricing. Should be interesting to see how it shakes out when Apple misses their earnings estimates.

It doesn't show that they failed with the X. They knew they couldn't make that the bread and butter update this year, which is why they rolled out the 8 and 8 Plus. In order to say "fail," we'd have to know how sales are doing relative to expectations. The article gives some basis for concluding that Apple missed their sales target (because they're reducing components orders), but without knowing what those orders were expected to be, we really can't reach conclusions.

Of course, this is a rumors site, so we don't need to. ;)
 
The iPhone X would sell extremely well, if they included not only a charging cable, charger and earphones but also a Mac mini in the box. Or a 500$ Pizza Hut voucher. I mean, you have to get something for that money?!
 

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and get rid of the hideous notch! What moron or group of morons at Apple thought that was a good design?

I am glad I elected to go with the iPhone 8 Plus. Edge to edge would have been nice even it wasn't OLED.

The notch is the worse design Apple has ever came out for the iPhone. Definitely the #1 reason why I will not upgrade to the X.
 
The article gives some basis for concluding that Apple missed their sales target (because they're reducing components orders), but without knowing what those orders were expected to be, we really can't reach conclusions.

We can certainly assume that it's one of the few times that their flagship product didn't meet sales expectations. I can't ever remember being able to walk into an Apple a week after launch and finding the latest and greatest iPhone but I was in getting my 8 plus repaired (shortly after X launch) and the Apple dude said they had the X in stock if I wanted to upgrade. I don't see a mad rush for HomePod either. Apple is becoming pretty underwhelming. The "wow" is gone and it ain't coming back anytime soon. It's still good and it's still my choice.
 
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We can certainly assume that it's one of the few times that their flagship product didn't meet sales expectations. I can't ever remember being able to walk into an Apple a week after launch and finding the latest and greatest iPhone but I was in getting my 8 plus repaired (shortly after X launch) and the Apple dude said they had the X in stock if I wanted to upgrade. I don't see a mad rush for HomePod either. Apple is becoming pretty underwhelming. The "wow" is gone and it ain't coming back anytime soon. It's still good and it's still my choice.
Another way of explaining that:

Apple ramped up production higher than usual for the holiday quarter, hence the improved availability. Now that the holiday quarter is over, they're returning to a more steady-state supply chain order method. To anyone looking from the outside that would look like a component cut, but only because there was an order glut on the front end.

The fun thing about my thesis? It holds up logically, AND has the same amount of evidence as the rumor this thread is built on, which is to say none. ;)
 
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I posted last year a rundown of the EXACT same “supply chain” rumors coming from the SAME sources every year in the same timeframe going from the iPhone 4 to the 7 (the newest at the time).

It’s the most concrete pattern you can have. Why people bother listening to the exact same rumor every year is beyond me.

Seeing as it’s the same sources, the same analysts (Kuo being chief among them), and the same timeline EVERY year I’m not sure why anyone buys into these anymore. Unless of course it’s to take advantage of the stock price in the few hours these reports seem to have an effect.

I don’t know what to tell you other than to tell you I’ll be posting the same thing next year, I’ll mark my calendar.

Again, this contains at least three misunderstandings. Of course the analysts are trying to figure out what is happening with sales by dipping into supply chain information. They don't do this just for Apple, of course, it's what they do for all the companies they cover. The second misunderstanding is why the analysts do this (if I have to explain, it won't be worth explaining). The third is you are making essentially criminal charges based on no evidence other than analysts doing their jobs.

I'm sure you can predict sunrises with great accuracy too. Should I mark my calendar?
 
Again, this contains at least three misunderstandings. Of course the analysts are trying to figure out what is happening with sales by dipping into supply chain information. They don't do this just for Apple, of course, it's what they do for all the companies they cover. The second misunderstanding is why the analysts do this. The third is you making essentially criminal charges based on no evidence other than analysts doing their jobs.

I'm sure you can predict sunrises with great accuracy too. Should I mark my calendar?
Whatever you say bud. I'll keep watching the same rumor used every year like clockwork. How many times does it have to be bunk before people realize there is at least a 5 year pattern here?
 
Chill up a bit, I'm not checking MacRumours 24/7. Apple may have sold crazy amounts of iPhone X, that I don't know. What I "know" is what I see around. Maybe the folks I work with and also others sharing the same building prefer big screen phones? ;)

In my case, couldn't care less, i'm super happy with my iPhone SE 64Gb. :D

Same here I don’t care lol I’m enjoy life and iPhone. I don’t see why folks get wrapped up in this. I’m just a mere pleb!
 
Whatever you say bud. I'll keep watching the same rumor used every year like clockwork. How many times does it have to be bunk before people realize there is at least a 5 year pattern here?

Um, okay, bud. Again, the "pattern" is what you misrepresent. You are assuming analysts are annually supplying utterly wrong information so they can artificially drive the stock price down (and presumably profit from their crime). Where's your backup for any that?

Before you try to explain, consider that I've been an AAPL investor for 21 years now, and I have never seen the criminal activity that you allege occurs with clockwork regularity. I've found most of the time the better analysts read the tea leaves pretty well.

I would have you notice another thing, which is that this report does not include a forecast for how any of this will impact Apple's revenue or profits in the coming quarter.
 
Nobody other than Apple knows the facts. I was in an Apple store in Delaware yesterday and the phones were rolling out the door as fast as people could pay for them. Plenty of X's sold while I waited my turn. I was at AT&T before heading to the Apple Store. I saw two purchased at that store. Most of these rumors of bad news and sales drops are made up to manipulate the stock price. It's done to all companies where $3 or $4 swing can happen.
 
Exactly. Oled is nothing new. Combine that with bad design decisions - the notch, the aspect ratio, removal of home button and extremely high price tag - it is not a phone that has wide appeal. I was due an upgrade but decided against it as X has no appeal to me. iPhones have become gimmicky....I mean does anyone use 3D touch? I never use it on my 7+. No need for it. I just want a beautiful design like Samsung now does but with iOS. And at reasonable price.

Other phones have has OLED panels for year now, without being pitched at crazy prices
 
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Chill up a bit, I'm not checking MacRumours 24/7. Apple may have sold crazy amounts of iPhone X, that I don't know. What I "know" is what I see around. Maybe the folks I work with and also others sharing the same building prefer big screen phones? ;)

In my case, couldn't care less, i'm super happy with my iPhone SE 64Gb. :D
Just don't start posting stuff based on a confirmation bias. We will look at the real numbers. Your focus group of 1 is literally meaningless.
 
Um, okay, bud. Again, the "pattern" is what you misrepresent. You are assuming analysts are annually supplying utterly wrong information so they can artificially drive the stock price down (and presumably profit from their crime). Where's your backup for any that?

Before you try to explain, consider that I've been an AAPL investor for 21 years now, and I have never seen the criminal activity that you allege occurs with clockwork regularity. I've found most of the time the better analysts read the tea leaves pretty well.

I would have you notice another thing, which is that this report does not include a forecast for how any of this will impact Apple's revenue or profits in the coming quarter.
I think you’re misreading what I’ve been saying.

For years, KGI and Nekkei (sp?) *specifically* (as in, not all analysts) have put out the same rumor of supply chain sources indicating a problem prior to the launch of a new iPhone. After release, after the holidays, they put out another report (I understand that’s simply when the reports are due) saying that component orders have been cut in some dramatic fashion before Apples first financial report after the holiday season and it seems like sales are down.

Those two reports (supply chain sources indicate manufacturing problems, then component orders are down), in that order have been released from those two sources (KGI being the most reported) every. single. year.

I can only conclude that investors, not being stupid and clearly aware of this cycle, may have some other reasons for still publicly supporting these reports that are discredited year after year. I happen to think they serve as great mechanisms for “flash” trading firms to make a bonanza off the momentary spikes and drops (millisecond to millisecond) that the viral nature these reports cause.

Do I have any evidence for WHY I think they do it? No, that’s just where my mind goes given the more I read up on how predatory basically all Wall Street is.

My opinion on WHY, however, does nothing to the fact that this pattern exists (it does.).

I wrote up a post last year prior to the iPhone 7 launch when the component rumors were swirling documenting how the pattern had gone back at least 5 years at that point, citing the very reports and their release times. I’ll have to go back and dig it up when I’m back from my bike ride....
 
You can't spin this as a positive.

I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing either.

It’s no small surprise that iPhone sales are always the highest in the first few months when it is released, then taper off in the following year as we start gearing up for the release of the next iPhone.

It’s possible that Apple has enough stockpile of the iPhone X from improved production that they feel they have enough to last till September this year.

When Apple announces their quarterly earnings, I am confident that they will continue to show handsome profits from the sales of iPhones. Doubt it’s anything to be worried about.
 
and get rid of the hideous notch! What moron or group of morons at Apple thought that was a good design?

I am glad I elected to go with the iPhone 8 Plus. Edge to edge would have been nice even it wasn't OLED.
Because of Face ID it had to be done that’s why. Notch isn’t really a big deal for those who have one.
 
oled is a pretty overrated tech anyway. That's not to say it doesn't have its benefits, but it often seems to be considered a natural progression from LCD, rather than what it really is - a different tech with different sets of strengths and weaknesses.
 
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