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I don't understand - first it was, Apple needs less product ads and more meaningful ads with people in, now people are complaining that they need more product-based ads!?! I can never understand these things.
 
The ads lack joy? Really? People smiling?
I don't know what this professor is watching.

Me neither, I guess he would've preferred ugly like all the other ads on TV.

And he really lost me when he suggested that it was political, because of the California thing versus Samsung in Korea. Does he really think that typical idiots who watch TV have made this connection? Maybe the other highbrow professors in the college did, but nobody who regularly watches TV was made uncomfortable by that.
 
it's the lack of new things that's scoring poorly with Apple.

I understand why Apple moved everything to Fall, but in today's tech 9 months without a single new product is A LONG TIME.

I agree, but I think it's not about a new product, it's more about people wanting some game changing device every year, which is a view held by the media and wall street that is just soooo beyond ridiculous and unrealistic.

I mean we had the imac, then 3 years later the iPod, then 4 years later the iPhone and then 3 years later the iPad. We're right on that timeline for something new coming soon, but WS/Media want something game changing every quarter. It's stupid.

Now, I do agree about March/April not having anything. I still think that's a good time for something to be released. Personally I think that March/April should be the Phone (phones are the thing that people buy whenever). The June/July should be the Laptops/iMac (school for August) and Sept/Oct should be the iPad/iPad/iPod for XMas/Holiday stuff.
 
Calling an ad a slap in the face is a slap in the face to people who actually get slapped in the face. …....

Boy….are you way off track. I said the ads stink and the Designed in California is a slap in the face…..

Get it right dude…….
 
I totally agree, also, outside of california, no one cares about naming your new OS after surf spots... "mavericks"?? what a joke.. Cook is running apple into the ground..

Cook is running Apple into the ground because of what they named their operating system? Seriously?

Damn, if only there were some more big cats available-- then Apple's future might be saved!
 
I wish they were made in America ads instead.

It is rather intriguing to me that while Cook made some hoopla about announcing that Apple would begin to manufacture some stuff in the USA, the wording of the add immediately brought to my mind the reality that most stuff isn't. For those who are worried about US manufacture, the add might have a very negative effect.
 
It is rather intriguing to me that while Cook made some hoopla about announcing that Apple would begin to manufacture some stuff in the USA, the wording of the add immediately brought to my mind the reality that most stuff isn't. For those who are worried about US manufacture, the add might have a very negative effect.

I couldn't agree more. When seeing the ad, the first thing that comes to my mind is "oh, so the products are designed in america but not made in america."
 
So true. This also is the reason why AAPL is currently below $400. They need to come out with something NEW ASAP!

Perhaps you need to watch the bouncing ball video.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpZmIiIXuZ0

If there's a market ripe for disruption and Apple is ready to disrupt it, we'll know about it. They're not going to churn out chaff simply because an investor is clamoring for "something new".
 
I understand why Apple moved everything to Fall, but in today's tech 9 months without a single new product is A LONG TIME.

Long time for whom? Journalists? "Analysts"?

Real people don't usually upgrade their Mac or iOS device every nine months (unless they make tons of money, I suppose...).

By the end of 2012 Apple updated most of its product line, including a brand new iPhone and a brand new iMac design. This month they just announced updates to their operating systems which, personally, excite me much more!

I really don't get this "lack of innovation" thing everyone is talking about. The things OS X Mavericks and iOS 7 will do out of the box, are amazing. Apple makes carefully planned moves and does not build superficial hardware products that flop in the market (well, at least in the past decade or so...).
 
We all know what Apple is, no need to emphasize that they are in California and the name of OSX is named like a beach in California.

Maybe they are playing the we are USA they are Korean, but I don't think Apple does that.

If they want to people know who they are and what they, is nice, but we all already know that. Apple has a good reputation, we just need good icons.
 
Here's my main problem with the ad: it's so serious. Of all the companies, I think Apple is the most playful one. Why make a serious-toned ad? This is not IBM or Microsoft. Even Microsoft has started a more playful tone. Apple is about embracing fun and playfulness, so show that in the ads.

The silhouette iPod ads. Those were the truly Apple-like ads to me. They said absolutely nothing with words, it was just great imagery with music. They said it all without words, they were fun to watch, it was a piece of art in itself.

Sure, the iPod was easy to make good ads for, since all it was about (mainly) was playing music on the go. Today things are more complicated. But the thing is, some things haven't changed: people still like things that make them feel good, and that's what Apple products do. So make an ad that makes people feel good, and the connection will work. Instead of saying things that don't really mean much unless you think about them a lot.

Take the boring car ads for an example, where many companies do similar manifesto ads that always have stuff along the lines of "we believe that…", etc…

The Think Different ad was very different in the sense that it wasn't about Apple at all. It was about people who changed the world. It didn't even say "Apple". It just said that you have to be brave and do things in a new way to change the world. This applies to everything, and people of course naturally made the connection with Apple.

No one cares about "companies" and no one cares what companies "believe", "want", "think" or "aim for". People want things that are desirable and that they feel attached to for some reason. That something is what Apple has always had, they just have to remind people of that feeling. An ad should make you feel the way the product makes you feel, and people will instantly get it. It's what the iPod ads did.

PS: And the California thing may be good for those living in the US, but for everyone else, why should they care?

People should care about California the same way they care about EU member states.. California, on its own, could knock several other G8 countries off the list. THAT big and independant.
 
it's the lack of new things that's scoring poorly with Apple.

I understand why Apple moved everything to Fall, but in today's tech 9 months without a single new product is A LONG TIME.

How else could they have given Ive the time to redesign the software, clearing the decks by refurbishing the entire line last year (except the Mac Pro of course) is the only way to have handled this transition, there was always a five year plan, although I doubt Jobs expected Forrestall to get fired, they announced the iMac too early and failed to ship it on time, if they had released that this year then the gap in products would not have been so long, Jobs would never have announced it, Cook made a big mistake there I think...
 
On the other hand, sometimes it really is better with these gadgets. My wife and I had a total Star Trek moment with our Mac Mini the other night. It is hooked up to our HDTV and we were using it the other night to watch a movie. We got a FaceTime call from my sister and answered it, talked to my sister for a couple minutes, and then as soon as we hung up, the movie automatically came back on and started where we left off.

That's great -- as I said, I'm not faulting the technology. I appreciate the ability to talk with and see family in other parts of the world. I use Skype to talk with family on the other side of the world and I love it. But ads like this promote the idea that it's o.k. to have those conversations anytime and anywhere. What you do in the comfort of your own home when watching TV is up to you. But just as it would *not* be o.k. to whip out an iPad or iPhone in a public theater and start chatting with your sister, it's also not o.k. to do the same in a restaurant or other crowded public place where people want to enjoy the experience of being there -- that's my point. I'm not saying it's up to Apple to teach people the etiquette of using their devices, but I sure don't like to see them promoting rude behavior and spinning it as some sort of positive thing (here I'm referencing that moment in the ad at 0:29 I commented upon earlier). Sometimes powering down your iDevice and going "off the grid" for a little while can really enhance an experience not only for yourself but for others around you. Voicemails and text messages will be there waiting for you when it's over.
 
Cook is running Apple into the ground because of what they named their operating system? Seriously?

Damn, if only there were some more big cats available-- then Apple's future might be saved!
Do you have ANY IDEA how disappointed I was when Apple announced "Mac OS X Sea Lion" on stage and then took it right back?!?

UNFORGIVABLE!!! :mad::mad:
 
Meh.... I don't think so ....

The "Think Different" advertising really stood out because a lot of intelligent people recognized and respected the people shown in the ads, and felt a type of bonding with Apple, as a company that shared that respect.

I think in modern times, there's considerable resentment for the pedestals we put our Hollywood celebs, pro sports athletes and pop musicians on, while practically ignoring the great minds who really contributed to society in life-changing ways.

Especially with Apple being synonymous with the educational market, Think Different resonated with the teachers and faculty. (Apple even had a boxed set of smaller Think Different posters designed just for the classroom.)

The current advertising sounds more like Apple's simply pushing their brand the way you'd expect a clothing designer to do.

Honestly, I think the highest rating advertising overall is humorous. (Look at the ads that get top ranked during the Superbowl each year.) Apple was a little bit "hit or miss" in this ares with the Mac vs. PC campaign, but when they succeeded in getting a laugh out of people, they were a success.


I love these ads compared to some of the previous ones. Reminds me of the Think Different campaign which was also more of a company manifesto. Hope to see more like it.
 
These are some of my favorite ads.

I guess not everyone can make the connection between the sentiments in these ads and apple products.

What a shame.
 
Now that you say that, I wonder if they were hoping to catch some of the vibe that "Imported from Detroit" got.

The push makes sense. They want to name OSX releases after California places... So the want to KEEP "Designed by Apple in California" in mind for a long time.

I think it says a lot about the media, and people in general, that we've been brainwashed not to root for OUR OWN TEAM. Because Apple is trying to point out that they add values and thinking and way of life from California, USA to their products... They are not just soulless boxes pushed out of a Chinese sweatshop.

I can see how that works in the US with the whole patriotism thing, but I don't see how it translates internationally.

I know this might sound odd but if you have to tell people you're cool then you're not cool.

I think Apple are trying to react to the Samsung ads which seem to constantly portray iPhone users as old people while the hip young things are using a Samsung. That's a clever tactic and one that must hit home with Apple's marketing people. I can see they need to counter this portrayal but I honestly don't see how these ads do that.
 
The first time I saw it, at first I didn't even know who the ad was for. I felt very awkward and thought it was maybe an Apple competitor. Once I saw Apple, I felt very uncomfortable and didn't really feel I needed their amazing product.

Can we bring back the thumbs down please?
 
the problem for me with this ad (as well as most Apple's recent ads) is that 1) everyone is stereotypical, and attractive. 2) nearly everyone is smiling. 3) the combination of one and two with extreme slomo = corny and full of crap. I miss the spirit of the old Apple ads, which unfortunately has been hijacked by Samsung, Google and Microsoft (although with a troll spin by Samsung and Microsoft.)
 
Wow Analysts, Apple pissing someone off

Predicting those three upset viewers definitely spells doom and gloom for Apple. This comment made by Louie of Arizona!
 
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