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And Fact: California is not a country….it's simply a state of the United States of America…… a state nothing more…. one that can't balance it's own budget and thinks it's a leader of the whole country…..WRONG!

And the USA can't balance its own budget and thinks it's the leader of the whole world.. what's your point?
 
The ads talk about a part of apple that is incredibly important and essential to the company. But it's not the part that gets people excited. The attention to detail is what keeps customers happy with their products and enjoying their experiences. But it might be something that is better kept behind the scenes, and put some of the more exciting stuff in ads at the forefront.

I feel, with this add, that this is the message Apple wants to get across. This is about Apples' culture, not a product. They won't pull it. It's not cocky. Plus, Ben Affleck did a wonderful job narrating.
 
I feel, with this add, that this is the message Apple wants to get across. This is about Apples' culture, not a product. They won't pull it. It's not cocky. Plus, Ben Affleck did a wonderful job narrating.

It's not cocky. The problem is that Apple is wasting money on this ad because nobody pays attention to it.
 
These are perfectly great ads. I wonder how the "Crazy Ones" ad scored with the dumbmasses.

Better, because the Crazy Ones were relatable.

When someone bought a Mac, they were buying into "being a genius" concept.

These ads however don't mean anything to anyone.
 
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Right on

The ads are very un-Apple to be honest. Instead of focusing on the device, or the experience (ala the PC vs Mac ads) they decided to focus on a tagline.

That is really what is at the heart of the issue here. In past ads, the focus was on the user and all the things they could do with technology. Education, medicine, engineering, aviation, etc. They showed how you could could use technology to make life better. The focus was always on the user, and what they could do with technology.

This recent "Designed by Apple" campaign smacks of a knee-jerk attempt to capitalize on the brand name. Hey! It's Apple! Buy it! It's cool!

But the individuals who came up with this campaign managed to focus only on the brand, and not the product. Big mistake. The old campaigns always showed people enriching their lives through technology, with the allusion that using Apple products made them a rebel, a maverick, a round peg in a square hole. The product was never the focus, but it always was visible. And closing with the Apple logo made it iconic, while keeping the focus on the user.

This self-centered campaign is quickly dismantling that carefully crafted brand name by making it seem no different than buying Louis Vuitton because it is Louis Vuitton. Buying Coca-Cola because it is Coca-Cola. Buying McDonalds because it is McDonalds.

No longer is Apple the rebel. They are slowly killing their own revolution, by following the status quo themselves.

Sad.
 
People should care about California the same way they care about EU member states.. California, on its own, could knock several other G8 countries off the list. THAT big and independant.

Yes, but what I mean is that for people not from the US, it doesn't really make a significant different if something is designed in California, "the USA", Germany, Japan, etc… And surely Apple has better arguments for how awesome they are other than the fact that they are in California. So is Microsoft, Google, etc…, their biggest competitors.
 
Ugh, I cannot believe anyone would dislike these ads. They are nonintrusive, not arrogant and they don't focus on blasting and downgrading another competitor. In fact what these ads do is show how real people use their Apple products in real life.
 
I think Apple's latest crop of ads will score well with everyday folks. Maybe just not this particular ad, for whatever reason.

I thought the ad that emphasized the iPhone camera was very good. As an iPhone owner, it made me remember a few of the many times when I was so glad I had a decent camera at the ready right when I needed it so I didn't miss capturing a special moment.

They're trying to make their products seem more relatable to the average person by showing people in everyday situations using the products. I totally understand that -- and I think it's smart. What's the competition doing? Showing a "wedding" with people arguing over which smartphone is the best. People who frequent MacRumors forums have those kinds of arguments; but everyday people do not.

Everyday people just want a phone/tablet that does what they need it to do. And this commercial showed that Apple products do what everyday people do, well, everyday.

It makes a lot more marketing sense to show commercials like the ones they're running now than to show a "Genius" hopping up from an airplane seat to go sit beside someone a few rows up who's having a problem with their iPad. Thank God that commercial didn't last long!
 
Actually, most of the states that are net receivers of Federal funds are GOP leaning states, tending to be smaller states that want "less government intervention". Both California and Texas provide more than they receive, and Texas certainly generates a lot of Federal tax revenue from oil and natural gas in the gulf. Were it not for that, Texas might very well be one of the net receivers of federal funds.

California and the West Coast have an advantage over Texas in that trade with Asia goes through West Coat ports. I would take California over Texas merely for its breadth of geography. YMMV.

I'll probably live another three decades, and expect to see Texas as a blue state by then.

I'm not talking about political shades among all the states and how much federal funds they get. I'm speaking specifically about Texas and California and the perception both have based on current policy.
 
California

I guarantee if they broke their focus groups down by state or even coast, you would see a huge disparity between west coast opinions vs. everyone else. It's interesting demographically but ultimately focus groups offer nothing to anyone with real focus.
 
Umm. No these ads are VERY apple like. I suspect they are more an ad to inside Apple to remind them of their core being. Just like this one was

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SswMzUWOiJg

The ads might be trying to achieve the same thing, but how they go about doing it is very different. The dialogue in the Crazy Ones alludes to what Apple is, Our Signature hits you over the head with it. The Crazy Ones is bright, good pacing, showing people in their element or smiling at the camera. Our Signature is dark, slow, is less personable with many wide shots instead of close shots showing human emotion ( they need more shots like the one with the kid showing surprise using the ipad at the 17sec mark).
 
I think what really rings hollow is that they keep trying to show people deriving meaning and significance in their life from "stuff".

Well you can try and sound like you don't but the truth is most people do and Apple isn't "trying" anything. If you want to go on record as suggesting that these ads aren't telling the story of how real people react to "stuff" in their lives then you don't know about life. Plain and simple.
 
The media: Your iPhone sales are declining, your employees are defecting, your leadership is cashing out, your market share is eroding, your lawsuits are failing, you can't innovate, your future is dismal, your stock is tanking.

Apple: No no, see these pretty ads. Our brand is wonderful.

Made in California. Like cheddar cheese. ©
 
It's pretty clear to me that this campaign is a direct response to "Apple is doomed b/c they don't release new products every 3 months like Samsung".

To me, the message of the campaign is: "people love our products b/c we spend all our time and energy focused on a few unbelievably well designed products. If you're hoping we'll start cranking out product after product to 'stay innovative', go find another company...that's not how we operate."

That was my impression of the ad campaign. A direct response to Wall Street and others obsessed with new, new, new. Apple's basically saying we're doing things in our own way on our own schedule. Time will tell if its an effective ad campaign or not. I don't think one survey of 500 people really means much, other than good click bait for sites like Forbes.
 
Texas is similar in that they believe they can function autonomously from the rest of the country.

The difference is, they aren't smug. Proud, but not smug. They operate within their means and focus on the individual rather than collective. People admire that philosophy.

If Texas seceded, I have no doubts they would be a very well run country.

If California did, they'd likely be joining the ranks of Greece asking for money from the rest of us to prevent total economic collapse.

Though we're slightly off topic but it does offer explanation a person's negative reaction to a commercial focusing on Apple that touts California.

You've got it backwards: CA is one of the states that gives more money to the federal government in taxes than it receives in aid.
 
This ad is a tradgedy. One step forward in it's ability to convey the emotional impact a technology could create and acknowledging the hands who have contributed. Another step backward assuming we needed this ad to tell us "what matters."

Thank you Apple for insulting my life experience.
 
These are like Nike "just do it" ads
They're not bad, but it just feels very corporate America. Definitely not "think different"
I have to admit, it's much harder to do "think different" when all our products are the same year over year now..
 
This self-centered campaign is quickly dismantling that carefully crafted brand name by making it seem no different than buying Louis Vuitton because it is Louis Vuitton. Buying Coca-Cola because it is Coca-Cola. Buying McDonalds because it is McDonalds.

No longer is Apple the rebel. They are slowly killing their own revolution, by following the status quo themselves.

Sad.

And yet everyone who hated the old Apple commercials would say the same thing you do. If anything, Apple might have finally decided that they will take as many consumers with them and leave the rest behind. Before you were in the camp of good products or not so good products. Now you are in the camp of Apple or anyone else's camp.
 
I don't get these ads, they're cute and classy and well-shot, but honestly they're boring as hell.

Much like Apple these days, actually.
 
I think what really rings hollow is that they keep trying to show people deriving meaning and significance in their life from "stuff".
This is how pretty much all ads are today, but more accurately, they're trying to tie their product with "happiness" and things like love, friendship, good family life, economic stability, liberation, etc.

Commercials don't sell "stuff" anymore. They sell the emotions and positive feelings that everybody wants in their life, and then suggest their product or service is the gateway to those feelings.
 
And the USA can't balance its own budget and thinks it's the leader of the whole world.. what's your point?

My point….if California sank in the ocean tomorrow the world would still get along just fine…

….we became the world leader by default after defeating the USSR in the cold war. When we try to back off, we are often called upon by weaker countries, to aid them, be it technology, money, weapons or food, and we always provide.

All we get from California are stupid laws and regulations that make everything more expensive for the rest of the country. California pipes in water and power from other states, sucking resources from the rest of the country and 'saying look at us were California the most important state of the union' but to the rest of the union California is a JOKE!
 
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