That was 80s and 90s and the environment I grew up in. The company I worked for most of my life basically only hired workaholics. And we've had flex-time since the 1980s. It's kind of strange to me that a lot of workers only discovered it when the pandemic hit. I've worked with distributed teams since the 1980s as well. A lot of it in the old days was email, FAX, Notes and the phone. In the old days, our phone bills were typically in the hundreds of dollars per month.
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That was 80s and 90s and the environment I grew up in. The company I worked for most of my life basically only hired workaholics. And we've had flex-time since the 1980s. It's kind of strange to me that a lot of workers only discovered it when the pandemic hit. I've worked with distributed teams since the 1980s as well. A lot of it in the old days was email, FAX, Notes and the phone. In the old days, our phone bills were typically in the hundreds of dollars per month.
He played the inclusivity card, just because he didn't come to work? Childish and manipulative.
Maybe. Maybe not. When the economy plows head-long into a recession, which all indications are that it will, the corporate layoffs start, and the startups that were WFH friendly that poached a lot of this talent close their doors, a lot of people are going to regret playing the work-life-balance card when they can't pay their mortgages over Zoom.
It's weird. From the sound of it, we do similar work, and I haven't noticed a drop-off in communication from manufacturers or distributors. I mean, some of them have always taken forever, even before COVID. But it's worked great for me.
What's killing us is the lead times on product shipment. A year or more, in some cases. Insane.
As an employee if you don't like Apple's policies, simply muster up some courage, resign, and find happiness at another company. Easy. It's no more complicated than that and Apple does get to set the rules.
Apple will continue to do well as it always has.
Apple will continue to do well as it always has.
The inflation caused by covid is happening because demand is outpacing supply. As covid recedes, ao wil the chances of recession. And its not just small startups offering WFH. Everyone from many giant corporations to banks are offering it too.
Absolutely!!! Well said!! So many people now feel entitled....like I'm gonna tell my employer how or where I'm willing to work. LOL. GTFOH is exactly right! If one of my co-workers or team members said that to me, I'd gladly show them the door.
If you're in tech, you should have made a ton of money in the past 13 years with salary increases, stock options and bonuses. And you can just take a few years off and wait for the recession to end to start looking again.
We've had the option to work from home since the 1980s. It has given us a lot of flexibility in hiring.
It's not COVID receding that will cause the recession. It is the Fed raising interest rates to stop a runaway train in inflation. If you want evidence of that, just look at the stock market. The market was pricing in about 250 basis points increase as of a week ago. Goldman was calling for 400 basis points. Want more evidence? Look at the US Dollar Index.
Feel free to wander and live off the land, like Caine and Jules.
Lots of people keep making this an either/or proposition when it looks like Apple wants a hybrid situation. I’m also wondering if maybe Apple has more control over security of information on site. Maybe they dont want people logging in at home from computers their 12 year olds accidentally installed hey stroke loggers on.
LOL...you couldn't be more wrong. All major economists are pointing to a recession is coming for sure. The inflation is due to many factors...the first being all the easy money pumped into the economy by the Covid relief bills under Trump and then Biden. And then Biden's hateful policies towards petroleum producers (its funny, he's now begging them to crank back up production but they all giving him the middle finger, then he started begging OPEC to produce more...so you don't want America to produce petroleum but you're willing to rely on Arabian oil from OPEC, most of whom hate America?????). And on top of it all, the last two months there's been a war in Eastern Europe affecting global supply of oil. Biden is conveniently now calling all inflation "Putin's Price Hike". Well how do you explain inflation reaching 7% prior to Russian invasion of Ukraine?? And Biden and the Dem's want to keep spending, they still want that multi-Trillion dollar social justice bill to pass, all that would serve to do is further overheat the economy, further driving up inflation and further monetizing our debt, spurring more inflation.
It sounds like you come from the "the employer is always right" school. What a terrible morale problem you must have if everyone is in fear of even speaking up about anything.
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If he wasn't doing effective work, Apple would've already fired him. So actually, yes, I am able to assess how he works at home versus the office. And so should you.
Where's the evidence for this? What you're claiming runs counter to everything I've seen.
working for a competitor or your own project on the side while on the clock.
This. Apples quality has definitely diminished. There are still engineers that have to go in due to the nature of their role. The Apple silicon team, one of the true great Apple innovations recently, has not worked from home for the majority of the pandemic.
Apple is well within their right to enforce a working environment which they believe is necessary for making great products because ultimately, consumers are the ones paying, not employees. At the same time, employees are well within their right to decide if a particular working environment is indeed suitable for them or not.
I am reminded of “Hey” who lost 30% of their workforce over a new work policy barring the discussion of politics at work. I am sure there was some short-term disruption to their work, but in the long run, the company seems to be doing better than ever.
I don’t see this “exodus” as a bad thing necessarily. As with any paradigm shift, there will always be people unhappy with the current status quo. Rather than force themselves to stay on and continue working in an unhappy environment, may as well quit. Find a job you are more comfortable with, while also opening up your position for someone else who is fine working with Apple’s policies.
In the end, everyone’s happy.
I don’t see much changing either. Apple is a huge company, and its success will not be impacted by the departure of a few people, however influential they may seem. The company has survived the departure of Steve Jobs, Tony Fadell, Scott Forstall, even Jony Ive, it will survive the departure of Ian Goodfellow (as well as anyone who decides to leave with him).
The people hoping that this will mean some sort of reckoning for Apple as comeuppance for their supposed obstinacy and foolishness in refusing to embrace the WFH movement will be sorely disappointed. And I for one do feel that WFH is not the revolution that people are hoping for, and that Apple is not designed to thrive under such a working paradigm.
If anything, the lens ought to be trained on the other companies who are allowing their employees to WFH all the way, and see if they are actually doing better or worse than before.
I am reminded of “Hey” who lost 30% of their workforce over a new work policy barring the discussion of politics at work. I am sure there was some short-term disruption to their work, but in the long run, the company seems to be doing better than ever.
I don’t see this “exodus” as a bad thing necessarily. As with any paradigm shift, there will always be people unhappy with the current status quo. Rather than force themselves to stay on and continue working in an unhappy environment, may as well quit. Find a job you are more comfortable with, while also opening up your position for someone else who is fine working with Apple’s policies.
In the end, everyone’s happy.
I don’t see much changing either. Apple is a huge company, and its success will not be impacted by the departure of a few people, however influential they may seem. The company has survived the departure of Steve Jobs, Tony Fadell, Scott Forstall, even Jony Ive, it will survive the departure of Ian Goodfellow (as well as anyone who decides to leave with him).
The people hoping that this will mean some sort of reckoning for Apple as comeuppance for their supposed obstinacy and foolishness in refusing to embrace the WFH movement will be sorely disappointed. And I for one do feel that WFH is not the revolution that people are hoping for, and that Apple is not designed to thrive under such a working paradigm.
If anything, the lens ought to be trained on the other companies who are allowing their employees to WFH all the way, and see if they are actually doing better or worse than before.
Yes. And as history showed Steve Jobs was replaceable.