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Your lack of self control does not map to everybody else.

I am more productive and put more work in since WFH than prior. The metrics are also tracked more closely at my company. The key is, I don’t constantly get interrupted by people stopping by for a chat. And I don’t mind putting in the occasional extra half or full hour of work now and then, because previously I was spending two hours EVERY day in my car.

I’m also much more rested and comfortable given I am now able to craft my own physical working environment.
This!! 100%
 
I work in a big tech company that went remote and I can definitely tell you that our productivity went down massively. Even after our infrastructure was tuned in to support this, we’re not close to precovid levels of productivity. There’s also a big time loss of collaboration and team building. It’s doable sure but at the lack of similar output. People are getting paid more to produce less right now, while in their PJs.


i work in design and we are full time wfh. i still deliver my designs on time, but definitely they are not the same quality. it's hard to get feedback along the process, accountability and general collaboration. i'm basically delivering first drafts as final designs. people seem satisfied with the work, but the quality level is definitely not there.
 
Your lack of self control does not map to everybody else.

I am more productive and put more work in since WFH than prior. The metrics are also tracked more closely at my company. The key is, I don’t constantly get interrupted by people stopping by for a chat. And I don’t mind putting in the occasional extra half or full hour of work now and then, because previously I was spending two hours EVERY day in my car.

I’m also much more rested and comfortable given I am now able to craft my own physical working environment.
This. Couldn’t agree more.
 
I work at an insurance company in downtown Toronto, Canada. Our bitch of a VP made is making us all go back to work in the office. All the work I do is on a computer, and nearly all my communication is done via email or MS Teams. There's ZERO point in going back to work. Anyone who thinks you need to come in, is doing this out of malice. I can't stand having to wake up early just to WASTE 2 effing hours a day just to do the same job at location B instead of A.
 
Absolutely no reason for anyone to work in the office. Zoom/Teams is perfectly fine, and likely more efficient than being in an office. I mean, you at least save the hour or 2 you waste commuting every day.
Zoom/Teams are good enough for many, but not for always. With everybody working from home almost 100% of the time, creativity is often suffering. The question is what balance to strike. Also, the balance will not be the same for every role and for every person.
What I have personally been missing most in the previous two years, is the great ideas that come out of chance conversations that do not happen as much via Zoom/Teams.

Btw, I just spent a week with some of my US team members for the first time in two years. Everyone on our US team works remotely and they only get together in one place 3 to 4 times a year. It was amazing to finally get everyone in the same room again. Creativity was flowing all the time and we all left completely energized.
 
Well, it is a (so called) free country…
A lot of companies inThe Bay Area are doing similar, Apple is not alone just gets the attention in the press …
There is no doubt that some people are more productive at home, but others, with the same job, are not. And then there are this who have to come into an office to do their job. We are all different, on many fronts, an employer should treat everyone the same, right?
 
It’s a free country. Everybody can leave if they feel they’ll be treated better somewhere else…
Agreed. I understand that companies need employees to return and there be some pushback. After all, a taste of the work-from-home freedom is hard to give up. But some employees are downright abusing the system.

Me thinks Apple should allow such work from home but with the condition that paychecks will be adjusted to the area where they live.
 
I have always found Apple's ML offerings TO END-USERS subpar.

It's probably the local elaboration and surely the lack of data-harvesting, but the deficit is there.

And you can feel it in Siri, and also in Apple Music (ever seen the autosuggestions of playlists and authors by the main competitor?).
 
If you’ve ever watched a group of a handful of engineers in front of a whiteboard you know that this scenario CANNOT be replicated via zoom or teams or whatever…
There were promising tools to enable that 20 years ago but since we’ve evolved into social media type sharing…
 
Many of you are clearly upset about having to work in an office, and instead of taking your frustrations out on your employers that created these inane policies, you're taking it out on a person willing to give up a high paying job to stick to their firm principals. Ian's going to land a great job that's 100% remote, and he's going to be happier for it.

Y'all are weird.
 
You're not a divorce counselor to work from home. You work at a company that builds products, some are life-changing products, products that require maximum focus, productivity, discipline, quality check, again and again. At-home productivity will never equal at-work productivity. At-home discipline will never equal at-school discipline.

Just like you'd never be comfortable with a home-schooled heart surgeon; or get on a rocket built by engineers who worked from home.

Anyway, that said, good riddance to him. There are no irreplaceable people.
Please speak only for yourself. You cannot generalize this - like anything else.
I work in a big multinational company and our productivity is the same or better than before. People can actually work more due to no commute (personally, I invest around 50% of the saved time into work).
 
Absolutely no reason for anyone to work in the office. Zoom/Teams is perfectly fine, and likely more efficient than being in an office. I mean, you at least save the hour or 2 you waste commuting every day.

This is the opposite of what I’ve experienced. I lost the connection to my colleagues. Especially in a small office where you know everyone personally, being isolated at home feels depressing.

I also believe productivity is at its best with the entire team present in person in the room, but I guess it depends on you field of work.

I remember that Steve Jobs design the NeXT office in way that people would run in to each other, which he believed is best for creativity.
 
Absolutely no reason for anyone to work in the office. Zoom/Teams is perfectly fine, and likely more efficient than being in an office. I mean, you at least save the hour or 2 you waste commuting every day.
I would not pay zoomers to manage my top secret projects on platforms controlled by my competitors who already are known to hack data streams for data. If these people can’t hang I would adjust salaries for people who support my vision and draw people who match my needs. There are thousands of people who would love a chance to work at Apple.

These people will open the door for those college grads who claim the opportunities were limited for their college education.

Apple should extend the work from homers for a year, but have a hiring spree with new contracts and load up the departments with new people working in the spaceship and other offices. I’m thinking 20-20% increase with duplication.

Then offer a 15-25% salary bonus payed monthly to employees who are dedicated enough to show up at the office. It could be based on whether the work 3,4,or 5 days in the office.

Workers not showing up at least 3 days get nothing. They will fire themselves. If not, phase them into non critical positions with no authority and after the year require the office return or termination
 
I can tell you that I am able to get the same amount of actual work done in a little more than half the time by working from home. No commute. No colleague interruptions. Less breaks for lunch and coffee. Not as many extraneous phone calls. Less socializing generally. So, I am sympathetic to argument that for some people the benefits of working in an office do not outweigh the costs in terms of time and efficiency. I guess it depends on the individual.
 
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