Nice example of projection again. You seek attention, and you get it. That's your only "win" here, bub.
Nice example of projection again. You seek attention, and you get it. That's your only "win" here, bub.
Thank you for informing of this fact. Great to hear!! 👍🏽San Fransisco Bay makes k cups out of potatoes. They require commercial composting, but they are actually cheaper to manufacture than plastic cups. They have a home compostable outer packaging too, but due to its design, it can't support more than 2 lbs.
It's not a straw man. It's an actual issue, and it has great meaning to the entire society and the world at large, especially those who will live past the current generation of "leadership" in our corporations and legislature.Strawman. General statement that doesn’t really mean anything.
Was this a demonstrable fact (kids being less vulnerable) or has it simply been oft-repeated meme without citation of source? I have definitely read that one of the variants were putting more kids into the hospitals.
The second issue (being able to pass it on to others) is absolutely reason enough to close schools and keep kids at home, but I find the oft-repeated meme of "kids are fine" to be suspect.
Maybe he’ll be happier with the next company…until they want him to come back to the office.
What's clear is that you harbor an irrational and emotionally-driven stance on work-from-home employees, which you character assassinate as "loafers" and "entitled freeloaders". Not only is this a bizarrely hostile reaction to complete strangers for no clear reason, it also assumes that management at Apple is too stupid to recognize when their WFH employees are not getting work done. You appear to be engaging in culture war, and it makes absolutely no sense when anyone, of any political affiliation and generation, can work from home on most office-type tasks. It's not limited to "those people", whoever is your scapegoat of choice.Because I want Apple to make the best products it can and when loafers like this entitled freeloader want to vacation at home Apple can't do that.
Clear now?
I'm not sure that diminishes the intent of school closures. Rather, it seems to imply that there's a further need to prevent congregation.Per The NY Times article:
“In places where schools reopened that summer and fall, the spread of Covid was not noticeably worse than in places where schools remained closed. Schools also reopened in parts of Europe without seeming to spark outbreaks.”
There are a variety of reasons for this outcome. One often cited is that just because schools are closed that does not prevent children from congregating and playing together, so there was no noticeable difference in spread. When you look at the damage done to education and social development, particularly in underserved communities, I think it is very difficult to justify especially given what we know now about the harmful impacts. If there is another surge, I seriously doubt you will find very many officials and health experts advocating for school closures.
Nope. I did NONE of the above. Try again.Being off-topic I'll still reply and say I do hate having to pay for your poor choices. You made the decision to persue higher education. You made the decision to get a degree in a poor paying profession.
I and others should not have to pay YOUR bills.
It's not really that obvious, though. That's why this pandemic shutdown's remote working has been such an awakening for so many people. Not only did people accomplish things they assumed they needed to do in person, they even improved in some areas, in terms of productivity. I DO think there are reasons to be in person in a work place, but I really do think that a lot of otherwise seemingly obvious things have been debunked.No. It’s pretty obvious that in certain situations all being in a room together can aid productivity.
That said the benefits of working from home outweighmosta lot of things formosta lot of situations, definitely when it comes to quality of life.
Many of the processes involved in both consist of many stages of solo activities for one or more individuals, sometimes one depending on the results of the other person's solo work. Have you witnessed chemistry labs in use? Aside from the specialist equipment, there's a lot of handing off of one task from one person to another, not team activities. In fact, you're more likely to see a person doing a batch of processing for multiple people who are not present, and then delivering those processed samples to the persons who ordered them.The entirety of the design? Drug manufacturers researching new drugs?
Yes, the employer does, right now. People want to change that. Why does an employer deserve to rule against a worker in cases where it's an objective fact that something can be done just as well remotely as it can be done in an office? At issue is the argument that employers should not have an overwhelming amount of arbitrary power over employees. The capitalist claim is that employers are compensating workers for providing their time/skills; that it's an exchange between consenting parties. Yet the application is FAR from a neutral and balanced exchange, especially when considering all the things the employer demands of a worker (most of their life's time, really), and there's a MASSIVE power disparity between the two sides.The employer still has the final say. What you believe are valid wfh scenarios may not be valid for another employer.
believe it or not, not all jobs are the sameCool. How does Starbucks make your drinks?
I didn't understand your last statement, but appreciate your analysis of the weird contradiction with Apple.What would Steve Jobs do?
Jobs said in 2010: When we were an agrarian nation, all cars were trucks, because that's what you needed on the farm. But as vehicles started to be used in the urban centers, cars got more popular … PCs are going to be like trucks.
If Steve Jobs could have an evolved thinking on computing itself and used an analogy like that; why wouldn’t he have a similar evolution of the workplace, too?
2022 is not the same as 2010. Tim Cook and Apple are pushing the idea of 5G providing more freedom and mobility; the ability to work anywhere, anytime. If you even look at demo of their products it’s most people using them in home spaces. Strange the same company pushing these ideals can’t embrace.
Apple Management just feels suckered by the pandemic.
If Apple were that honest with themselves, I think they would put more money and time into QA testing and bug-fixing...Many people here think that individual productivity (or the feeling of individual productivity) is important. It's not. Company wide productivity is not the sum of individual productivity. You can have a lots smart people working very hard, and still produce cr*p, buggy, and un-interesting new products. I've seen lots of startups, with smart people, fail, after eating millions in investment.
Apple has the data. They know whether the stuff they started developing 3 or 4 years ago has better sales, better customer satisfaction potential, and less bugs than the new projects started last year (where employees felt more productive due to less commute time, etc.). If that data says slightly miserable employees (due to commuting) produced better stuff, and the best competition is only offering equally miserable jobs, then they will make them come back to work in the office.
And that will be good for both Apple's customers... and shareholders.
In Australia you have the state government office of the ombudsman if you work in a government job.Some yes, some no. I was betrayed by a union that was utter self-important and self-sustaining garbage, who did more for the benefit of HR at my abusive employer than they even suggested being willing to do for me.
That said, I still fully support the creation of unions. What the hell else IS there for workers? The power disparity should not be this great, since workers theoretically could just leave... but theory is often divorced from practical application. We know that wage slavery and employer-linked "healthcare" means there's an almost endless supply of people willing to put up with inhumane treatment to pay their bills. There's not going to be a general strike when too many people are literally one paycheck away from losing homes, losing their children to CPS, etc.
That's great news.Apple and other tech companies don't even have unions, at least not for these full-time engineering employees. Lo and behold, we're paid above min wage to say the least.
It's problematic that you use scare quotes around the word "rights" and that you're presenting the two sides as equal in a simple disagreement. This thread started because of irrational hostility toward a former employee of Apple daring to indicate one of his reasons for choosing to resign. This is not a "both sides" issue. There was pushback against people who started this thread with hostility and ad hominem attacks on a complete stranger over his departure from a workplace. This is not a mere difference of opinion. It is a response to extremist behavior.It’s 37 pages because of an extreme difference of opinion between those who believe in employees “rights” vs employers “rights”
Unfortunately, the constant turnover results in many pieces of code being orphaned/abandoned because the original authors have moved on and the corporation that owns the code does not see value in finishing it, let alone debugging it, because existing code does not directly contribute to selling the same product again next year.Its probably good they do that, as staying with one company can limit your creativity by only working with certain products. Fresh perspectives is what makes the technology industry evolve.
Apple feels they need to get value for money by having the campus fully utilized. The pandemic got in the way of that. But honestly, they will keep pushing until one three things happen: people quit, poached or a serious outbreak on campus of a new variant resulting in everyone having to quarantine. Then the city will step in and tell them you are not gonna reopen the campus until we say you can and you must adopt mandatory work from home policies.I didn't understand your last statement, but appreciate your analysis of the weird contradiction with Apple.
You recently implied that Apple's managerial success was proven via their financial results. Did I misunderstand, because now you're implying that the layoffs at Activision Blizzard were a result of horrible management, when everything done there was to get the same kind of financial results.Yeah, one game company that seemed horribly mismanaged. Sure Tim Sweeney did okay though.
I don't disagree. But the systemic rot was present well before COVID19.Less immigrant labor in the U. S. is contributing to shortages, price hikes and inflation as well. COVID is causing supply contraints and the war is another factor.
Would you support the immediate discontinuation of any tax credit you claimed on last year’s return that I didn’t get to claim, then?Being off-topic I'll still reply and say I do hate having to pay for your poor choices. You made the decision to persue higher education. You made the decision to get a degree in a poor paying profession.
I and others should not have to pay YOUR bills.
The "disagree" option was not available.Ahh you got angry at my reply.
Yes he took a job elsewhere. Did you understand my reply to someone else whom stated it was being treated better? Seems you didn’t read that part nor my reply in context. I wasn’t mad at all. It was false. The employee never stated anything about being mistreated by Apple in his fateful quoted in this article. Did you read it?
This isn’t about being “treated better” it’s about being a lazy snowflake wanting everything his way.
He can go look elsewhere. If he finds what he wants good for him. If not then it’s ON him not Apple to see where his priorities and laziness or lack of effort lies.
So I stand truthfully by my reply. This was not about being treated better. It was about his choice. The fallacy was thinking that working at home would be a forever thing in his role. Apple enever stated working from home would be a full thing they considered. 2 days a week isn’t bad, nor 3 days a week.
I find it funny people are loosing their stuffings over such a very slow transition and claiming it’s this or that. Yet nobody is advocating about a 4 day work week implemented over 12 yrs ago in Sweden or Finland which has proven to be better quality of life and work balance yet it’s not implemented anywhere else.
Considering your choice to flag my post you quoted above with an angry face shows you’re losing your stuffing or too emotionally invested in my post that you completely take out of context and wrongfully assumed I was mad. But hey oh well.
I red the article. I thing in any of my repolies states nor shows otherwise nor does your post quoting mine neither does.
I’m attacking the way in which he made his choice. It was poor and shows a sour feeling about a very slow gradual change he should’ve long been aware of.
Apple has been noted about their back to office goals over 6 months ago! News reported right here back in November. As a director why would he not engage his superiors long before about this plan? Why did he not discuss this? He’s had plenty of time to leave yet instead he waited until the planned 3 day/week introduction 3 weeks before being implemented and then leaves a team he leads with just an email having no thought or a care of the repsonvility and feasting disruption to his subordinates work.
Poor leader by example here.
It seems you’re doing the attacking directly to me. I’m attacking his reasoning - that’s why I said lazy nOT anything personal about him nor why he chose to do it. It’s work ethic I attacked.
You read me completely wrong.
This guy cherry picked after a short few weeks of 2 days in office and at announcement of 3rd panned ahead but oh well.
I’m off by 1 day so sue me. He still didn’t have a problem with this 2yrs prior I’m sure he still had family then.
What does this prove? I’m fully capable of multi-tasking and have for over a decade.
I’d wager this isn’t taught as much as it’s seen to distract people and a more focused work style is the norm lately. I’m sure there is more yet nothing you’ve posted states the majority of the work force has multitasked while working remotely any better than when in the office.
Abs yes I can multi-task performing two things simultaneously:
Having abs interacting to 2 conversations back and forth - I’ve done this all my life. Managers and friends have honestly questioned me if I was insane or possessed.
Control a computer on 1 screen jumping to another when a process is completed while talking to 1 of those users answering their questions that were non related.
Just cause you’ve never seen it doesn’t mean people cannot do this!
Again quite and reply in context as this is exactly what I was saying that you quoted me. I’m just surprised at the sudden letter that said ciao basically. I’d expect a 2 wk notice to help transition his team that he led.
Lmao weird appeal to power.
Someone posed a statement I asked with a challenge.
I’ve yet to see a direct reply.
The failure isn’t with me here. But nice try since you’re so fixated in your anger towards me. You can just ignore my posts you know hehe.