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That is not a true statement. If "many" of your teachers did this, they will have been fired by the time you went to the next grade.

I agree that SOME teachers in SOME SUBJECTS will concentrate a lot on reading a textbook (English, Psychology, Ethics, etc)...but definitely none of the Sciences and likely very few of the History topics.

There is a lot of raw knowledge in most textbooks, but the teacher helps you understand the concepts more fully, helps draw comparisons in fact as well as his/her opinion, and teaches what textbooks may overlook/skip. Textbooks really are the tool to help the teacher be organized about the topic(s) for the year/course. I have a few friends that are teachers (I work in high tech) and they use the textbooks very much as a guide and timeline for learning concepts (for example it should take a 3rd grade class 4 hours of time to understand the concept of multiplication).

Seriously, if teachers acted the way you are describing, I can guarantee you they are fired unless they get much more interactive.

Because of No Child Left Behind, a lot of teachers do tell students to just open the book and prep for the tests so they don't get fired. It's very sad
 
My guess is textbooks like English books or Greek Mythology might be ok...but math, science, computer, biology, etc. type textbooks will be miserable to use. Yes, I'm sure they will have wonderful animations or little video clips to show you how something works...but it's all about the note-taking needs to be perfected.

If you have ever had those types of scientific classes, your textbooks are all marked up. Not so much on the Emily Dickinson collection.
Actually, literature texts generally get marked up quite a bit. The biggest issue with handwritten annotations is that there's no easy way to connect everything. For example, read "Catcher in the Rye" and highlight allusions and references to light. Now piece all the instances together.

Where eBooks will be more interesting will be in liberal arts that employ a substantial amount of multimedia.

This announcement is taking place in an art museum, so let's use that as an example.

Art history textbooks would be a prime example of how a digital book with Internet connectivity would provide magnitudes of more information than a paper textbook. Due to printing costs and space, there is precious little room for photographic reproductions of paintings (the bulk of art history textbook photos are black-and-white due to cost), and even less for color plates. So in a typical undergraduate art survey class, any given artist might get a few pages in a massive textbook with a handful of B&W reproductions and if lucky, one color plate of a notable work. An eBook could link to Internet-based content so one could look at Rembrandt's entire work (including drawings) as well as a section of disputed works.

If I want to see a particular Rembrandt work, I should be able to see a virtual walkthrough of a gallery and see how it is currently being presented. Note that this also conveys scale. While art history books often list the dimensions of a given piece, it's not always easy to picture. In some instances it's hard to get close to the actual painting (perhaps it's hung high up on the wall) or there's a barrier (the glass case for the Mona Lisa is classic example, as well the glass protecting on of Michelangelo's sculpture of the Virgin Mary).

3D or video content would be even more invaluable for fields like sculpture, architecture, textiles, design, and performance art. Music, theater, dance, etc. would also benefit from multimedia content.

Even things like history books could access a vast repository of historic documents (photographs, maps, etc.).

Note that in these examples, the eBook with associated multimedia content needs to be viewed on a device that has a color screen, refreshes quickly, and has acceptable 3D performance.
 
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Than all of us working in front of computers all day should just quite because the strain on our eyes!

I don`t get all the eye strain comments either.

I constantly read on my iPhone and Ipad and have never had a problem.

I loathe reading on an e-ink Kindle due to the page turn black-out.
It`s jarring and irritating.

Much prefer an iPad/iPhone for reading I think the Kindle Fire would be decent for an e-reader too.
 
That is not a true statement. If "many" of your teachers did this, they will have been fired by the time you went to the next grade.

I agree that SOME teachers in SOME SUBJECTS will concentrate a lot on reading a textbook (English, Psychology, Ethics, etc)...but definitely none of the Sciences and likely very few of the History topics.

There is a lot of raw knowledge in most textbooks, but the teacher helps you understand the concepts more fully, helps draw comparisons in fact as well as his/her opinion, and teaches what textbooks may overlook/skip. Textbooks really are the tool to help the teacher be organized about the topic(s) for the year/course. I have a few friends that are teachers (I work in high tech) and they use the textbooks very much as a guide and timeline for learning concepts (for example it should take a 3rd grade class 4 hours of time to understand the concept of multiplication).

Seriously, if teachers acted the way you are describing, I can guarantee you they are fired unless they get much more interactive.

In a perfect world, you would be correct. Now, get real! Maybe not in a private school, but many public schools have that problem.
Just ask around, and you'll see how far from the truth you are. I didn't say all teachers are like that; I said many. And it's true, even if you don't want to believe it.
Check the first post here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1307014/

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I don`t get all the eye strain comments either.

I constantly read on my iPhone and Ipad and have never had a problem.

I loathe reading on an e-ink Kindle due to the page turn black-out.
It`s jarring and irritating.

Much prefer an iPad/iPhone for reading I think the Kindle Fire would be decent for an e-reader too.

In the past, i could never find a good reading light to read in bed. Either too bright, too dim, too yellow, too much glare, it would flicker, battery ran out quickly or power cord too short, too flimsy or got in the way when turning the page.

The iPad solved all those problems for me.

And I've been using computers for 29 years, and since I started using LCD displays I have no longer much problems with eye strain.
 
Being that skylines are silhouettes of the buildings...

In all honesty, after the WTC was destroyed, I really doubt NYC "skyline" is the most recognizable anymore. Believe it or not, but Seattle, St. Louis, Chicago skylines are a lot more recognizable than NYC, there are not the unique structures like the space needle or the arch, and chicago is the skyline you see in movies.

The Twin Towers were never the most famous skyscraper in NYC to begin with. That title has always gone to The Empire State Building and I doubt any building will take it away. The Chrysler Building would also rank right up there. NYC basically has two skylines, midtown and lower Manhattan. One could argue that midtown's has always been the more popular of the two.
 
I don`t get all the eye strain comments either.

I constantly read on my iPhone and Ipad and have never had a problem.

I loathe reading on an e-ink Kindle due to the page turn black-out.
It`s jarring and irritating.

Much prefer an iPad/iPhone for reading I think the Kindle Fire would be decent for an e-reader too.

After doing a search I could find no scientific study supporting the claims either way. In fact, some of the papers I read seemed to indicate no measurable affect either way.

Most of the papers regarding the effects of eye strain on reading from a computer go back to the 70's and 80's and are referring to CRT's. They suggest that the solution to reducing fatigue and eyestrain is simply adjusting the brightness and contrast of the monitor.

Pretty much everything else you read about the subject is anecdote and personal preference so I tend to dismiss any claims that one form is better than the other or worse. For myself, I've now read dozens of books on my iPhone and iPad and find it no more straining than a regular book. In fact, less so as I am able to adjust the brightness of the display, increase the size of the type face and invert the page from white to black as my personal preference dictates. But that's another anecdote too.
 
>iPads become textbooks and all school books need to be approved on the AppStore to be published -> Apple brainwashing from childhood, kids get brainwashed, apocalypse.
We joke about Apple brainwashing kids, but it does bring up a serious point. Apple acts as the "exclusive publisher" for all books on the iBooks store. It is Apple who have the final say if the book is to be available on their store or not. From an education stand point it is worrying in that a singe corporation has to approve all textbooks. Evolution/Intelligent design is probably the most obvious topic to think about here.

My worry is not that Apple would be exclusive approver of text books it is that any corporation would be and that educator would loss some choice.
 
I have a hard time seeing the NY skyline without thinking of 9/11. Maybe not the best marketing move by Apple.

It's not a "marketing move" it's a private industry invitation, and NYC is and always was a lot more than two buildings.

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We joke about Apple brainwashing kids, but it does bring up a serious point. Apple acts as the "exclusive publisher" for all books on the iBooks store. It is Apple who have the final say if the book is to be available on their store or not. From an education stand point it is worrying in that a singe corporation has to approve all textbooks. Evolution/Intelligent design is probably the most obvious topic to think about here.

My worry is not that Apple would be exclusive approver of text books it is that any corporation would be and that educator would loss some choice.

RUN! The SKY is falling! After all, clearly this vague information somehow alludes to Apple being the only source for textbooks for the world moving forward! Run for your lives! :rolleyes:
 
In pictures and on TV shows, it was the easiest thing to pick out to see that "this movie is set in NYC" as they panned to the opening scene.

The WTC might not have been the most famous building(s), but they were the first thing a lot of peope would see that made people think NYC. (at least for me).

Or of course the statue of liberty.


The Twin Towers were never the most famous skyscraper in NYC to begin with. That title has always gone to The Empire State Building and I doubt any building will take it away. The Chrysler Building would also rank right up there. NYC basically has two skylines, midtown and lower Manhattan. One could argue that midtown's has always been the more popular of the two.
 
I don't understand why this is taking place in NY :confused:

Washington DC is the capitol of the United States. NYC is the capitol of the world. The question is, why would anyone have a product announcement anyplace else?

The world consists of two places. The island of Manhattan and the suburbs.
 
How about a subscription package for School books?

All the education you want for 9.99 a month? Any subject!

plus Interactive books with online content videos and audio and interactive ests etc.
 
Oh yeah. The WTC has always been NYC. When King Kong climbed to the top and swatted at those airplanes, man, that was awesome. More awesome movies…

The aliens attacking the WTC in Independence Day.

Who could forget West Side Story opening on a shot of the WTC?

Remember when the WTC was destroyed in Day After Tomorrow?

;)
 
Plus the only thing that keeps the overly inflated textbook costs down is selling your old ones on ebay. (Which you obviously cannot do with ebooks)
Just as soon as there is a provision to transfer license rights, it will become practical. However Apple would likely have some way to encourage the transfer transaction within a walled garden.

The simplicity and minimalism of the announcement is noted. The complexity is all in the license rights since they already have the hardware, market, contacts with schools, deployment schemes, etc.

Guggenheim New York has these meeting venues:

# Host an Event

* Ronald O. Perelman Rotunda
* Peter B. Lewis Theater
* The Wright
* New Media Theater
* Cafe 3

Rocketman
 
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I hope the textbooks are not as buggy as the Yellow Submarine book...it was so painful to scroll through...
 
I never carried all my textbooks in middle school. Only once when I took them home and back to school. My school had us keep them at home and they had school copies that stayed in school.

It was a pretty cheap school too. Didn't even have to pay a cent for the books.

That was just the schools way of stopping you writing notes in the schools textbooks.
 
Apple in UK Education

When is Apple going to break the near monopoly of MS in UK Schools. Goves (UK Minister of Education ) stood up today and said ICT lessons in UK schools were not fit for purpose and then went on to say he will consult with Microsoft and Google to help improve coding skills and bring creative ICT back into schools.

Apple wasn't mentioned not even as an also ran. If we Brits are so creative and supposedly innovative then why isn't Apple interested in breaking into mainstream UK education ? Mr Ives isn't the only creative talent to come out of the UK.

Wake up Apple before MS and Google grab these creative young minds, by becoming the only choice in code and creative ICT in UK schools. The Apple rep we had visit us was so out of touch with the needs of our College due to lack of background research, it was embarrassing.

If they are serious about education, then tackle the UK now...the time is right to make IOS SDK part of the UK computing and ICT curriculum.
 
Actually, literature texts generally get marked up quite a bit. The biggest issue with handwritten annotations is that there's no easy way to connect everything. For example, read "Catcher in the Rye" and highlight allusions and references to light. Now piece all the instances together.

Where eBooks will be more interesting will be in liberal arts that employ a substantial amount of multimedia.

This announcement is taking place in an art museum, so let's use that as an example.

Art history textbooks would be a prime example of how a digital book with Internet connectivity would provide magnitudes of more information than a paper textbook. Due to printing costs and space, there is precious little room for photographic reproductions of paintings (the bulk of art history textbook photos are black-and-white due to cost), and even less for color plates. So in a typical undergraduate art survey class, any given artist might get a few pages in a massive textbook with a handful of B&W reproductions and if lucky, one color plate of a notable work. An eBook could link to Internet-based content so one could look at Rembrandt's entire work (including drawings) as well as a section of disputed works.

If I want to see a particular Rembrandt work, I should be able to see a virtual walkthrough of a gallery and see how it is currently being presented. Note that this also conveys scale. While art history books often list the dimensions of a given piece, it's not always easy to picture. In some instances it's hard to get close to the actual painting (perhaps it's hung high up on the wall) or there's a barrier (the glass case for the Mona Lisa is classic example, as well the glass protecting on of Michelangelo's sculpture of the Virgin Mary).

3D or video content would be even more invaluable for fields like sculpture, architecture, textiles, design, and performance art. Music, theater, dance, etc. would also benefit from multimedia content.

Even things like history books could access a vast repository of historic documents (photographs, maps, etc.).

Note that in these examples, the eBook with associated multimedia content needs to be viewed on a device that has a color screen, refreshes quickly, and has acceptable 3D performance.

The other thing the example illustrates is the possibility of updates to keep the content current. Without a persistent internet connection as the internet infrastructure isn't reliable by definition.

I wonder if the system would be better modeled on Newstand not iBook.
Using the subscription model of Newstand you pay the time based fee you get updates pushed to you overnight stop paying updates stop, but you can go back and look at what ever you paid for.

The most interesting thing that will come out of the event to me is the Business Model (Or a 7.85inch ePad).

I do agree there aren't that many subjects that are not going to be better served by smooth motion full colour reproduction.
 
iWork '12

If we look past the assumed iBook/textbook announcements, this event seems like the perfect time to introduce a new version of iWork.
 
please! no iPad-based textbooks for kids. the glare is horrible and strains the eyes.

if distributing textbooks please use eInk.

think of the kids for God's sake!

I saw an iPad with the anti-glare film on it... it looked great. Don't know what brand it was.

What concerns me is, kids carrying a $550+ iPad will be getting robbed like crazy.
 
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