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Apple's EU Core Technology Fee Could Bankrupt Freemium App Developers
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Yep! Reminds me of what I said on another thread earlier. The EU's problem clearly isn't WHAT is being done...but by WHO. If they were actually concerned about doing the right thing and not just throwing their weight around to satisfy their power-hungry egos, it would apply to everyone. Regardless of size. Not having "limitless resources" shouldn't matter, because supposedly, governments are capable of doing more than one thing at a time!
Which means they (the EU) are even more full of crap than I thought!
To be accurate, Microsoft WAS trying to control browser choice all over the world on devices NOT made by them. Apple’s influence is 100% on devices that have Apple logos on them. If a device doesn’t have an Apple logo, Apple has no say in what browser they choose. Pretty big difference.
I'm really sad, I mean, I'm not particularly in favor of these measures, I understand Apple concerns, but come on, they were judged and this is like bad loosing attitude. That will give them very bad (and deserved) reputation. For me this is a game changer in my conception of Apple.
I'm particularly sad because I joined Apple developers program recently in view of releasing my first app (in which I expended uncountable hours in my free time during this last 3 years) and now I have mixed feelings, because now is clear what kind of company is Apple, and I don't know if I want to give them any cent out of my hard work. My plan was always to continue using main Apple store even if new ones appear, part of my loyalty to apple, but the way they reacted to this is one of the worst things I saw from a tech company.
I'm particularly sad because I joined Apple developers program recently in view of releasing my first app (in which I expended uncountable hours in my free time during this last 3 years) and now I have mixed feelings, because now is clear what kind of company is Apple, and I don't know if I want to give them any cent out of my hard work. My plan was always to continue using main Apple store even if new ones appear, part of my loyalty to apple, but the way they reacted to this is one of the worst things I saw from a tech company.
"A free vape app" from a for-profit company? The only idea that you think something like this should be "free" is because Apple created that model. And in normal circumstances, this app would be free. BUT, Apple, like Amazon and many, many other companies and countries, restrict products in the category of tabacco or other drug use.
But why you think this for-profit company deserves a free app is beyond me.
No, the EU is saying due to the extraordinary circumstances, as defined by the DMA, they are going to limit otherwise completely normal and legal business practices. The practices Apple uses are not considered evil, greedy or outrageous under any other setting.
Heck, not just companies and countries. My STATE has rules about it. They'd probably drop a load of bricks on Apple if those apps were allowed and subsequently downloaded and used by anyone under 21.
Lack of ability doesn't equate to a lack of principles. Not to mention that it's not even possible for most businesses to do what Apple does because they don't have that kind of control of the market.
Oh like all the money that MS puts in to the operating system and developer dont pay anything to release apps on that.
Or like MacOS same answer. Apple and MS spend tons of money on both of those every year yet developer dont pay anything.
Or do you want to address Apple spends all that money on iOS not for developers but to SELL MORE iPHONE.
How much would you use your iPhone if the only Apps on it were Apple's apps. That means remove ALL your third party apps and only have the web. It is a 2 way street. Yes Apple makes stuff for developer who in turn make apps for the iPhone so Apple can SELL MORE IPHONES.
Or is it unrealist for my former employer to demand a cut of the thousands of iPads that are sold every year only to run the app they develop. If that app was not made those iPads would never be sold or used. B2B app.
You go for that argument above yet miss the fact that iOS is the only exception to the rule not the norm.
Blah blah blah repeating BS and apples lies.
If you dont want to use a 3rd party App store IT DOES NOT AFFECT YOU. All this complaining and in the end it has ZERO effect on you if you choose not to use it so why should your wish suppress the wants of others that do not affect you.
But that's not what the DMA says or intends to do. I get that many of you just want the EU to spank Apple becuase you don't like them. But the DMA does NOT say that Apple's practices are greedy, evil or even extroardinarily uncommon. The DMA is ONLY meant to reign in Apple due to Gatekeeper status. I disagree with the EU on this point, but the rest of you who are trying to use the DMA to "prove" that Apple is evil are just overlaying your own emotions onto the law.
Governments being capable of more than one thing at a time doesn't mean they're capable of everything at the same time.
Not sure what you're trying to litigate here, but you can frame it however you'd like. The reality is that as much as you'd like them to be able to, in the EU Apple no longer gets to operate under the philosophy of "we own it and can do whatever we want with it."
Why should YOUR wish suppress the wants of others? YOU HAVE ANOTHER PLATFORM THAT DOES EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT!!! Go use it!
"If you don't want to use a 3rd party App Store, it does not affect you" is the biggest load of crap on earth. Now that Apple is forced open...developers can pull off the Apple App Store AND the Android one because now, there isn't a disadvantage. Pulling off the Android store would have been a disadvantage for them if they couldn't also do the same with Apple. Now they can. Which means they WILL. And unfortunately, as someone with a job...it WON'T be an option for me. I guarantee there will be SOMETHING I NEED that will no longer let it be an option. If Meta pulls out of the App Store (which they probably would)...I won't have a choice, because I unfortunately NEED Facebook and Messenger for work.
We had a choice between an open system (Android) and a closed one (Apple). We now have two open systems and ZERO closed ones. The EU has taken away a choice that many of us had and willingly made.
As for freemium apps...good riddance! Developers wanted it opened up...now they can suffer the consequences. "Open" isn't all sunshine and rainbows. Good always comes with bad. No sympathy. You wanted the ecosystem ruined and you got it...only now it ruins some of the things YOU liked, too! Welcome to the club!
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You don't have to like the practice. Nor do you have to buy their products. But their practices are standard in the business world.
What did I say in that post that the DMA does not say nor intend to do?
I think you're projecting how you erroneously believe others feel onto the discussion. I do not dislike Apple. I enjoy their products. I do think they have (or had in the EU) too much unchecked control over the market.
Have you ever talked to app developers?Wouldn't this just drive app developers over to the android side and just completely leave iOS? Isn't this just like Apple shooting themselves in the foot?
Even if Android users are two thirds of their user base, iOS is 80% of the revenue.
If you don't want to use Apple's IOS, it does not affect you. If you do want to use it, you've made a choice.
the DMA isn't saying that Apple "have or had too much unchecked control over the market." I get that many of you have interpreted it that way...but if THAT were the case, then the EU would be outlawing the practices that Apple has used to grow their business. But the EU isn't outlawing those practices on anyone other than Apple (and perhaps the other gatekeepers).
You've emotionalized the DMA to fit your own perspective, to envision that the EU is a superhero that is vanquising evil business! But that's not the intent of the DMA. The DMA is taking extraordinary measures to curb NORMAL and fully acceptable business practices, due to the overwhelming popularity of Apple and other gatekeepers.
IF the EU thinks such practices are evil and fundamentally anti-competitive, then they would ban those same practices for every business.
For example...do you think Spotify should be forced to allow any artist to use their platform, for free, to promote and sell their music, without any compensation to Spotify? If the answer is no, then you're agreeing with me.
I love this post. It so perfectly and concisely illustrates exactly how consumer choice works. If I were to paraphrase, it could read. "I don't like the way this company does business and/or the product they offer. I will buy a product that better aligns with my needs from a company with which I agree (or disapprove of less)".
We only outlaw stealing goods above €1000 because we don't have the resources available to deal with petty theft.
That seems exactly what the EU is doing if they believe Apple's business practise is unethical.
If a company has revenue of €6 billion, market cap is €65 billion and they have only 40 million monthly users for a specific service or product, then everything is fine and they don't have to follow the DMA.
Or if you conduct this unethical business practises in two EU countries you can get away with being even bigger.
Isn’t this what Apple is legally required to do as a public company? To do everything they can to maximize their profits and prevent a major issue with their revenue? This is why I hate public companies. The expectation and legal responsibility for infinite growth is insane.
Of course it will affect me if I want an app which is only available in a third-party application store.
So what you're saying is that this is an example of Apple not trying to improve their customer's user experience? Which is what my point was in the first place. And are you telling me you actually believe that free software only existed after the introduction of the App Store? Boy have I got news for you. 😂