Technically developers already pay a yearly fee just ot be in the developer program and to get access to specific resources that you cant have while not being a paid dev in apples PAID developer program that you a DEV need to pay to apple to be part of.
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Apple's EU Core Technology Fee Could Bankrupt Freemium App Developers
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Try being an author with Amazon’s shocking theft. 30% you say. Try 65% if you aren’t exclusive to their publishing platform and a delivery charge for delivering your electronic book. The DOJ really need to investigate them.
Just another example of how Apple isn’t really seeking a better experience for their users and are really just seeking more $$$.
“We think you’re gonna love it.”
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Lmao I do my friend. Its name is google and is far more dangerous than anything google is accused of.
Next.
I would think they DID voted with their wallet so they stayed. Assuming that is more lucrative than leaving. Although Epic is also not the most benevolent force, they did vote by 'leaving', albeit with a bang .....
Fortunately the EU has started poking holes in this anti-consumer philosophy.
sigh... indeed. such argument can be made on every post about apple... just vent.
I love the fact that when these new appstores come out they have to pay the €0.50 immediately ( as it's jsut another app )... no million installs free. €500k will prevent some of the dodgy vendors from trying to cash in. I imagine any appstore will have to jump though some hoops too.
I have no idea what you're even trying to say in response to me. It makes no sense next to what I said.
No. Not at all. The DMA is taking extraordinary measures to restrict normal ordinary business practices due to Gatekeeper status. The EU has not universally outlawed the business practices that Apple uses.
Those “extraordinary” measures are exactly what I’m talking about. Your argument boils down to Apple created the platform and they can do whatever they want with it. The EU is now saying that’s not gonna fly and we’re putting some checks in place.
Yes, but I'm still against because I don't want any more power to developers. Apple serve my interest better than most developers.
Apple might be complying with the letter of the law; and that is a big MIGHT.
THey are definitely violating the spirit of the EU decision.
I have $100 that says they are back in court and lose.
This isn't side loading.
THey are definitely violating the spirit of the EU decision.
I have $100 that says they are back in court and lose.
This isn't side loading.
What do you think will happen when an application store goes bankrupt because the two guys in Bulgaria starting it in the garage of their parent's home only had $2000 in starting capital?
How many applications to the average user install on a Mac? And how many on an iPhone?
Compared to iOS, macOS is really inefficient when it comes to install and maintain software including software subscription.
Of course, Apple should have a say. A developer should have no right to reach any people or businesses.
It's the same principle on gaming devices.
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Exactly. Plus the fact that I don't have banking info or private health data saved to my Mac.
I'm entirely convinced that the "but you can do this on Mac and it's fine" crowd don't actually understand the difference or are just too arrogant to care. I have my banking info on my phone. I have my health data on my phone. The reason for that...is the phone is more secure than the Mac is. Apple THEMSELVES has admitted that MacOS is a less secure platform...and it's because it's more open. As far as I'm concerned, I don't want iOS opened more. I want MacOS CLOSED more.
I left Android because it was a buggy, open, fragmented mess. And now, thanks to the ******* EU, the platform I chose to get AWAY from that experience...is now forced to be like it. If the EU is going to force the same crap experience...might as well save money and go back to Android! Why bother paying more if you're just going to have the same experience?
Only if you're big. If EU was principled, they should make the DMA apply to all businesses of any size.
So, since these are the terms for using their new model which lets devs use alternative app stores (that, let’s assume right now, do not have this fee), can’t the dev avoid this fee by just removing their app from Apple’s App Store and offer it solely through an alternative App Store, or am I missing something?
I mean if the App really does go viral, and it’s only on an alternative App Store, then Apple would be missing out, at least in part if it were a freemium app (they’d miss out on this new charge, plus any in-app purchases.)
If I were going to put an app on the EU market, there’s no way in hell I’d put it on the Apple App Store under this agreement. Assuming all the alternate app stores don’t also do this type of thing, I would either wait a few months and let the dust settle to see which of the alternative app stores rose to the top, and put it on those, or just throw it out on all the alternate app stores right away.
Anyway, it’s really too early to know what will happen with alternate app stores. They could all decide to do the same thing, or none will do it and just work the way the current App Store does, or there could be a mix or they’ll do something entirely different.
I mean if the App really does go viral, and it’s only on an alternative App Store, then Apple would be missing out, at least in part if it were a freemium app (they’d miss out on this new charge, plus any in-app purchases.)
If I were going to put an app on the EU market, there’s no way in hell I’d put it on the Apple App Store under this agreement. Assuming all the alternate app stores don’t also do this type of thing, I would either wait a few months and let the dust settle to see which of the alternative app stores rose to the top, and put it on those, or just throw it out on all the alternate app stores right away.
Anyway, it’s really too early to know what will happen with alternate app stores. They could all decide to do the same thing, or none will do it and just work the way the current App Store does, or there could be a mix or they’ll do something entirely different.
Big corporations require the most oversight as they have the largest impact on the market. And just like everyone else, regulators don't have limitless resources and can't monitor every single player, especailly when their impact on the market is negligible to non-existant.
"Apple's Core Technology Fee could also be prohibitively expensive for apps like Spotify that have millions of users. An app that makes $10 million in sales through the App Store with 10 million "first installs" (aka, a 0.99 price) will need to pay Apple over $500k per month."
What is the sense of one good (Core Technologies) in one case be valued a "dime" and in the other case be valued at 50% of one's revenue? In terms of valuing the good itself makes no sense at all as it is the sane ... goods don't change value that way in the same market.
I think its just shows how much the big boys need to be regulated.
Cheers.
What is the sense of one good (Core Technologies) in one case be valued a "dime" and in the other case be valued at 50% of one's revenue? In terms of valuing the good itself makes no sense at all as it is the sane ... goods don't change value that way in the same market.
I think its just shows how much the big boys need to be regulated.
Cheers.
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So not principled then.
If the business practise of Apple is unethical shouldn't it be illegal for anyone to do the same?