Apple's First Bezel-Free iPhone Unlikely to Be Ready for 2026 Launch

Stop making more fragile products. It's not like we'd see any of that since it'd be under a case anyway. I don't understand why these companies don't make phones with a case in mind. Like... people are going to add one anyway, why not make the phone "modular" and have the case be part of the body? Make the phone shape with a case in mind.
 
SanderEvers said:
Sadly that's true. But it's not just the case with iPhones. I haven't seen real smartphone innovation in the last 10 years. Especially when compared with the 10 years before (2004-2014).

Smartphones have gotten boring, but none of them actually have useful good specs.
- A good SoC that is fast and does what you need.
- A large easily removable / replacable battery
- A MicroSD port
- A headphone jack
- Wireless charging
and a - non bloated OS. With at least 5 years of new major versions.

I honestly haven't seen a single phone that does all that.
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Because most of these are niche items especially removable batteries, microSD and headphone jacks.
 
Apple has been promising bezel-less screens for years and even had the audacity to call one “all screen”. They can but won’t- ehy upgrade you to a more expensive (for Apple) screen when they can keep suckering you with the same old screen year over year. You’ll buy the new iphone no matter which one it has. Apple knows this.
 
Awesome! bezel free iphone will see a massive upgrade cycle, much bigger than the iphone 6/plus when they introduce large screen.
 
Cloudyskies22 said:
Case covering it isn’t relevant as I detailed.
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so wait, you think that having extra screen surface that is covered by a case is not relevant? That's like building an extra room on your house and not installing a door to get to it. Seems nonsensical to me.
 
sunapple said:
I don’t agree. I’m not going to repeat the whole quote, but if you took that as a design brief today you would make an all-screen phone with no bezels. They did what they could with the technology they had.
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That's if you looked at it today, and my whole point is that it wasn't written today. It was written at a time when all screens had bezels around them, with the screen itself sunken down from the bezel. It was very obvious, both visually and physically, that the screen was a separate "thing" from the rest of the front of the device.

The Apple design made the screen and the rest of the front uniform with each other, so when the screen is off it fades to black and blends in with the rest of the front, and when it's on there's no physical edge between the screen and the bezels. That's very much the concept of an "infinity pool" it's about the edges, not having a waterfall down the side.
 
darngooddesign said:
By this logic, why should apple care about the weight of the iPhone when the 16” MBP is weighs 4.8 pounds.
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Huh? You call that logic. You do know that weight is an issue nearly everyone cares about while the iPhone bezels are already very thin and shrinking them further or even eliminating them will have a minimal impact upon everyone. I just upgraded from the 12 Pro to the 16 Pro and frankly the bezel size difference is not even noticeable unless they are next to each other and even then its minor and irrelevant.
 
aapl owner said:
Huh? You call that logic. You do know that weight is an issue nearly everyone cares about while the iPhone bezels are already very thin and shrinking them further or even eliminating them will have a minimal impact upon everyone. I just upgraded from the 12 Pro to the 16 Pro and frankly the bezel size difference is not even noticeable unless they are next to each other and even then its minor and irrelevant.
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Personally, I wish the phone were thicker, slightly heavier, and had a much longer battery life. The bezels are fine to slightly too thin IMO. But I am an older Gen X who does not have issues lifting a phone.
 
orev said:
The Apple design made the screen and the rest of the front uniform with each other, so when the screen is off it fades to black and blends in with the rest of the front
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Wooowww! Oh boy! That’s what I call innovation! 😂😂
 
wdfly said:
so wait, you think that having extra screen surface that is covered by a case is not relevant? That's like building an extra room on your house and not installing a door to get to it. Seems nonsensical to me.
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There is a small percentage of people who do not use a case. I do not use a case.

Secondly, presently there is still bezel shown with the vast majority of cases. The bezels would have to be reduced about 75% more at least, before most cases covered everything but the screen.

Any cases that covered a tiny portion of screen would be of zero consequence. All people who do not use a case would enjoy the even more immersive screen, and all users with a case would not see only a tiny fraction of the screen, all of which has no touch sensitivity and holds no UI elements. That screen is strictly for immersion.
 
Cloudyskies22 said:
There is a small percentage of people who do not use a case. I do not use a case.

Secondly, presently there is still bezel shown with the vast majority of cases. The bezels would have to be reduced about 75% more at least, before most cases covered everything but the screen.

Any cases that covered a tiny portion of screen would be of zero consequence. All people who do not use a case would enjoy the even more immersive screen, and all users with a case would not see only a tiny fraction of the screen, all of which has no touch sensitivity and holds no UI elements. That screen is strictly for immersion.
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there is also the usable angle if you will for being able to interact with that area where the case extends up beyond the screen. If that area was additional screen space, you would not be able to get your finger/thumb to touch that area and would only be usable to display things and not be interactive. IMO, there is little benefit to having that and a lot of potential downside such as creating a stress riser condition, making the screen even more vulnerable to breakage.
 
aapl owner said:
Huh? You call that logic. You do know that weight is an issue nearly everyone cares about while the iPhone bezels are already very thin and shrinking them further or even eliminating them will have a minimal impact upon everyone. I just upgraded from the 12 Pro to the 16 Pro and frankly the bezel size difference is not even noticeable unless they are next to each other and even then its minor and irrelevant.
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Yes, the logic is that laptop bezels are irrelevant when discussing phone bezels.
 
wdfly said:
there is also the usable angle if you will for being able to interact with that area where the case extends up beyond the screen. If that area was additional screen space, you would not be able to get your finger/thumb to touch that area and would only be usable to display things and not be interactive. IMO, there is little benefit to having that and a lot of potential downside such as creating a stress riser condition, making the screen even more vulnerable to breakage.
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I literally just said the edge of the screen is for immersion. There is no touch sensitivity. There are no UI elements.

It is for immersion.

It is for immersion.

It is for immersion.

Get it? And no, it doesn’t make the device more susceptible to breaking, that makes absolutely no sense. Now, if the way they did it was to curve the edge glass and curve the display then yeah, that design in general is more susceptible because it is curved glass. If they simply took the screen to the edge of the metal then it does nothing to increase breakage.
 
Cloudyskies22 said:
I literally just said the edge of the screen is for immersion. There is no touch sensitivity. There are no UI elements.

It is for immersion.

It is for immersion.

It is for immersion.

Get it? And no, it doesn’t make the device more susceptible to breaking, that makes absolutely no sense. Now, if the way they did it was to curve the edge glass and curve the display then yeah, that design in general is more susceptible because it is curved glass. If they simply took the screen to the edge of the metal then it does nothing to increase breakage.
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Immersion?
😵‍💫

That's really not a thing on a handheld 6-7" screen
 
Cloudyskies22 said:
I literally just said the edge of the screen is for immersion. There is no touch sensitivity. There are no UI elements.

It is for immersion.

It is for immersion.

It is for immersion.

Get it? And no, it doesn’t make the device more susceptible to breaking, that makes absolutely no sense. Now, if the way they did it was to curve the edge glass and curve the display then yeah, that design in general is more susceptible because it is curved glass. If they simply took the screen to the edge of the metal then it does nothing to increase breakage.
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So you're designing it? If not, then you are simply pulling this out of your backside. You obviously have no engineering or design background if you cannot understand that thin materials on the edge of a plane do have the potential for stress risers and, therefore, are more susceptible to breaking.

Thin materials on the edge of a plane are weak and have the potential for breakage.

Thin materials on the edge of a plane are weak and have the potential for breakage.

Thin materials on the edge of a plane are weak and have the potential for breakage.
 
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