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This leakage didn't happen with such intensity a year ago when Steve was still around.

Yup, nothing ever leaked while Steve Jobs was CEO :rolleyes:

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but that's the difference between everyone else and apple... this is what drives apple... I don't even remembering hearing anything about the surface before it was announced...

Surface couldn't leak since Microsoft hadn't started mass producing them. They didn't even know what they we're going to charge for it.
 
the only way to counter this is to announce products and THEN start manufacturing them...leading to at least a few month waiting time. I'm not sure people would want that

everyone wants the latest and greatest! and we want them now... that why apple is so good at what it does...

haha... they're like a our tech chiefs... they show us the goods and offer them while it's still hot... nobody wants cold and old tech...
 
sorry but incremental changes just aren't "exciting" anymore

we were used to LIFE changing products

not just crap thats slightly better ...

do you want to make iPad Mini's the rest of your life

or do you want to change the world...

:mad:
 
Surface couldn't leak since Microsoft hadn't started mass producing them. They didn't even know what they we're going to charge for it.

yup! like jayderek said...

the only way to counter this is to announce products and THEN start manufacturing them...leading to at least a few month waiting time. I'm not sure people would want that
 
Build them all here in the USA in one giant factory.

Fine - if you only want to sell them in the US, and pay the substantial premium the extra costs and reduced sales would create. Do you know what proportion of Apple products are sold in the US vs elsewhere? :rolleyes:
 
I can care less about part leaks. I'm sure it hurts Apple sales slightly during the time as they have to sell existing models at a lower price until they stell out of stock. But Apple knows to reduce production during this time to prevent having lots of leftovers.

I just wish the keynotes were more exciting. Even though I knew what parts were coming out, Jobs always seemed to be super excited about what Apple created.
 
Love these updates on Apple policies: they are like little reminders that no matter how totalitarian Apple gets, they are always ready to take it up another notch.

Here's a quote from Tim Cook:

"We try very hard to keep our roadmaps secret and confidential, go to extreme actions to do that, however that doesn’t stop people from speculating and wondering. We can never stop that. That’s one of the great things about this country. So we won’t spend any energy trying to stop that."

So is this Tim Cook's definition of freedom (in relation to Apple policies at least)? That we have the right to speculate and wonder about what kind of phone/computer will be coming out?

Think about that as a standard by which personal freedom is measured.

EDIT: This statement is not intended to say that this is Tim Cook's standard for personal freedom, but more a reference to the way in which the idea of freedom is trivialized by putting it in the context of speculating about consumer goods.
 
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And thank goodness sites like this exist to help bring the leaks to the masses...

As long as the end product is of good quality and decent design, perhaps it matters little if we know what it looks like yet. Perhaps Apple's biggest problem is that its competitors are aware of its design features months before a product is released. There aren't any more 'big reveals'. As a customer, however, I could care less - and if a Chinese worker wants a bit of notoriety because they're getting paid peanuts while working in horrible conditions, I say bring it on. And if it's just some opportunist...well, isn't that what capitalism creates? Why we're lamenting product leaks for one of the most valuable companies in the world, I'll never fully understand. Sometimes, I'm ashamed to be using this retina MacBook Pro - but oh the screen!
 
Fine - if you only want to sell them in the US, and pay the substantial premium the extra costs and reduced sales would create. Do you know what proportion of Apple products are sold in the US vs elsewhere? :rolleyes:

'They're taking our jobs!' ;)
 
Love these updates on Apple policies: they are like little reminders that no matter how totalitarian Apple gets, they are always ready to take it up another notch.

Here's a quote from Tim Cook:

"We try very hard to keep our roadmaps secret and confidential, go to extreme actions to do that, however that doesn’t stop people from speculating and wondering. We can never stop that. That’s one of the great things about this country. So we won’t spend any energy trying to stop that."

So is this Tim Cook's definition of freedom (in relation to Apple policies at least)? That we have the right to speculate and wonder about what kind of phone/computer will be coming out?

Think about that as a standard by which personal freedom is measured.
Huh? Either I'm not getting your point or you are saying Apple (any entity designed for profit) limiting access to future plans/releases is somehow related to "personal freedom"?
 
You want to be surprised, stop following rumor sites.
It goes way beyond MacRumors these days. CNN has been reporting on the iPad mini - a product that hasn't even been officially announced yet - for two weeks. It's a frequent topic of discussion on my Facebook feed. Newspapers and magazines "report" it. Unless you choose to stay off the Internet completely, turn off the TV, don't read any national publications, and basically live in a cave, you're going to hear about these things.
 
Huh? Either I'm not getting your point or you are saying Apple (any entity designed for profit) limiting access to future plans/releases is somehow related to "personal freedom"?

My point is simply the mentality, not the jurisdiction. I'm not saying that it IS a definition of personal freedom, only imagine if the same mentality was applied to something other than a manufacturer of electronic devices.

Of course, this wouldn't be such an issue if people really did believe that Apple was an entity designed for profit and not their best friend in corporate form.
 
My point is simply the mentality, not the jurisdiction. I'm not saying that it IS a definition of personal freedom, only imagine if the same mentality was applied to something other than a manufacturer of electronic devices.

Of course, this wouldn't be such an issue if people really did believe that Apple was an entity designed for profit and not their best friend in corporate form.

Id say you chose a pretty poor quote to argue about. Tim cook is just saying he cant help what people and websites are going to talk about. Of course he would like to stop them from trying to get specifics about future products if he could but he knows he cant because journalists are allowed to report on whatever they discover. There's no point in arguing about some little statement he made. No one expresses themselves perfectly.
 
The leaks are a product of MacRumors and others such sites.

I actually think the leaks are a byproduct of industrial espionage. Do you think the rumor sites pay the most for this information? It's much more valuable to Apples competition.

How do you think Samsung, Google etc. move to market so fast with competing products? Doubling down on secrecy is about protecting intelectual property.
 
Yup, nothing ever leaked while Steve Jobs was CEO :rolleyes:

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The original iPhone and the original iPad were the best kept secrets. The iPad shot you have there was found less than 24 hours prior launch. Not the great scoop you think it is.
 
Id say you chose a pretty poor quote to argue about. Tim cook is just saying he cant help what people and websites are going to talk about. Of course he would like to stop them from trying to get specifics about future products if he could but he knows he cant because journalists are allowed to report on whatever they discover. There's no point in arguing about some little statement he made. No one expresses themselves perfectly.

Really there isn't any point in arguing about it one way or the other so I'll drop the topic.

For clarification though, the quote was more or less a random quote I remembered reading. I wouldn't say that his statement deviates from the principle behind Apple's policies: Apple believes in very tight control of their company, from their very specific vision in design to the words which are prohibited from use by the employees in their stores.
 
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