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Apple's Future OS X Names May Include Yosemite, Mammoth, Big Sur, Redwood, Pacific, and More

casperes1996 said:
I haven't tweaked or changed anything, QuickLook just always worked for me. What exactly is the problem you guys experience? Have you tried a clean install?
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-- clean install 10.9
-- combo update 10.9.2
-- migration ass.

NO .avi / .mov / .flv QL previews / play :mad:

QT 10 problem? Because all .mov are first 'converted' Any ideas? TIA
 
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following recent trademark investigations related to the iwatch, french site consomac has discovered [google translate] that apple may also be using a pair of shell companies to protect various california-related names in anticipation of future os x releases. Apple's craig federighi announced at last year's worldwide developers conference that the company would be shifting gears on os x naming, moving from big cats to "places that inspire us in california". The current os x mavericks was the first to adopt the new naming pattern, taking its name from a popular surfing spot known for its massive waves.

consomac notes that a pair of companies going by the names of yosemite research llc and coast research llc applied for trademarks on several california-related terms in the category of computer software on the same day back in early december. The terms for which the companies are seeking trademark protection include yosemite, redwood, and mammoth (via yosemite research), and california, big sur, and pacific (via coast research).

As with several other apple shell companies created for quietly protecting trademarks, such as carplay enterprises and perhaps brightflash usa, both yosemite research and coast research are registered in the state of delaware and use the corporation trust center as their addresses. Both companies were registered with the state on november 22, 2013. Those details by themselves do not clinch the companies' association with apple, as the corporation trust center is used by many companies large and small to facilitate corporate registrations, but it is consistent with apple's past behavior.

Another intriguing connection noticed by consomac is that the attorney listed on the coast research applications is stephen brown, and an attorney by the same name is listed on an "iguide" application dating back to late 2007 from iguide media llc, a company macrumors linked to apple a number of years ago. Another attorney on that iguide application is james johnston, who was involved with apple's efforts to protect the "iphone" name using another shell company by the name of ocean telecom services llc.

The u.s. Trademark applications by yosemite research and coast research from early december also all cite filings in trinidad and tobago for priority purposes, similar to apple's carplay strategy. Those california-themed filings in trinidad and tobago were made on june 7, 2013, the friday before apple's wwdc 2013 keynote where it announced the change in naming scheme for os x.

Taken together, all of these pieces of information make a strong case for apple being the company behind the recent california-themed trademark applications. If this is indeed in the case, past history shows that apple may or may not elect to use all of these names for future versions of os x. For example, the company long ago filed for protection on various big cat names to reserve them for os x releases, but never used some of them such as lynx and cougar.

The next version of os x, 10.10, has been showing up in server logs for some time and according to 9to5mac is expected to feature a "flatter" look compared to os x mavericks. Apple made similar changes with ios 7, but the os x changes are said to not be as drastic as those seen on ios. Os x 10.10 is likely to be previewed at this year's wwdc, which will kick off with a keynote on june 2.

update 10:15 am: macrumors has discovered many more trademark applications from other apparent shell companies that carry the same corporation trust center address and june 7, 2013 priority dates from applications in trinidad and tobago. As with the other registrations, the u.s. Applications were filed on december 5 or 6.

- diablo, miramar, rincon, and el cap (landmark associates llc)
- redtail, condor, and grizzly (cassowary devices llc)
- farallon, tiburon, and monterey (asilomar enterprises llc)
- skyline, shasta, and sierra (antalos apps llc)

article link: apple's future os x names may include yosemite, mammoth, big sur, redwood, pacific, and more
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CFreymarc said:
Like man, OS X Humbolt
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ha.. yeah.. i'm pretty sure humbolt will be one of them :)

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I'm confused.

BDM STUDIOS NL said:
-- clean install 10.9
-- combo update 10.9.2
-- migration ass.

NO .avi / .mov / .flv QL previews / play :mad:

QT 10 problem? Because all .mov are first 'converted' Any ideas? TIA
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I'm confused now. My QuickTime (10.3) doesn't do this conversion, and QuickLook works just fine with all these file formats. I am currently running the 10.9.3 beta, but I'm pretty certain this worked on 10.9.2 as well. I love QuickLook and use video formats regularly for a variety of reasons like editing, so I would've noticed I think. Could it be something with metadata transfer trough migration assistant?
 
bumblebritches5 said:
OS XI Mammoth would be an amazing product name.
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It'll never be XI. Using the X in OS X after System 9 was simply a coincidence. The X was a marketing ploy... it sounds sexy. It wasn't illogical as coming after System 9 and as part of UniX.... but the marketing department choose that name. OS XI is not sexy... the marketing department will thumbs-down it immediately.... probably already have.

I would not be surprised if OS X is last OS for Mac computers ever written. Apple may decide to phase out desktops and laptops (and OS X with them) in several years when it gets out of the computer business entirely. One thing I could see is something that looks like a MacBook Air externally that runs iOS. For Apple uses who need a 'computer'.

But not for a while yet. And the evidence against my hypothesis is the new Mac Pro factory. That is some serious investment in a factory. Apple would not have sunk that much money into a factory if phasing out computers was on it's timeline. Unless the factory can be retooled to make iOS devices later, of course.
 
snberk103 said:
I would not be surprised if OS X is last OS for Mac computers ever written. Apple may decide to phase out desktops and laptops (and OS X with them) in several years when it gets out of the computer business entirely.
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Without computers, how will anyone write apps for iOS devices?

--Eric
 
Eric5h5 said:
Without computers, how will anyone write apps for iOS devices?

--Eric
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Using an iOS device that has an OS add-on module used for compiling apps.

Or… Apple could create a VM that runs under Windows and/or Linux that has all the functionality needed to create apps for iOS devices.

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I have no idea… but I do know that if Mac computers and OS X start losing money for Apple they will find a way for developers to work without Macs and OS X. They may feel that profits from iOS devices can subsidize Macs and OS X for a short while… but it won't be a long-term arrangement. In the mean time Macs and OS X still seem to be profitable for Apple - which is good for me. I would like to keep using a Mac computer for quite a while longer. And I predict I will be using OS X for that time.
 
I kinda wish they'd moved to apex predators, both living and extinct.

They could save OSX Tyrranosaur for the day OSX hits ≥50% marketshare. :D
 
The names are not even California-centric, they are Bay Area centric. How about OSX El Centro, OSX San Ysidro, OSX Calexico?

Or just keep giving them numbers, damit, how are you supposed to know which OS comes after which with all these stupid names???
 
snberk103 said:
Or maybe not… Apple makes significantly more money from international sales than US sales….
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you do realize international sales encompass 5 other continents plus 2 countries on Apple's (North America). Of course international sales will always be 'bigger'.

And the 10.1x series will be about California anyway.
 
Keep the OSX name just one small word, not two

I like -

Bodie - ghost town
Tahoe - lake
Eureka - town and California state motto/seal
Avalon - city
Calaveras - county
Anacapa - island
Shasta - lake and mountain
Ojai - town
Cuyama - town
Lassen - National Forest and Park
Inyo - National Forest/ County
Humboldt - River/ National Forest
Wawona - community
Mariposa - Giant Tree Grove
Tioga - pass
Cabazon - community
Berryessa - Lake
Trestles - surfing location
Olancha - community
Randsburg - Ghost town
Essex - community
Alturas - town
Weed - town (never will happen)
Inverness - community
Calistoga - town
Valyermo - community
Coachella - valley
Whitney - tallest peak in California
 
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pdaholic said:
I live very close to Apple's headquarters. I rock climb in Yosemite, ski in Mammoth, run marathons in Big Sur, hike through the Redwoods, and surf in Pacifica. I love California!
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Don't you mean Mammoth Lakes or Mammoth Mountain?
 
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snberk103 said:
Using an iOS device that has an OS add-on module used for compiling apps.

Or… Apple could create a VM that runs under Windows and/or Linux that has all the functionality needed to create apps for iOS devices.
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That'd be kind of sloppy.

I really don't see Apple getting rid of their computer line anytime soon. Like you said, even though it only makes up, what, 10% of their bottom line, that's still a huge chunk of healthy profits. Just because they're not making as much as their iDevices, that doesn't mean they should ditch it tomorrow and only chase the most profitable part of their lineup. They'd end up losing a ton of money doing that.
 
Renzatic said:
That'd be kind of sloppy.

I really don't see Apple getting rid of their computer line anytime soon. Like you said, even though it only makes up, what, 10% of their bottom line, that's still a huge chunk of healthy profits. Just because they're not making as much as their iDevices, that doesn't mean they should ditch it tomorrow and only chase the most profitable part of their lineup. They'd end up losing a ton of money doing that.
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I don't see it happening anytime soon… but in general people ditching their computers for portable devices. There will always be a some sort of market for computers …. there are some specialized needs of course. But Apple will either need to dominant that market, or become a niche player in a niche market segment. We know that Apple is not afraid to make dramatic changes… in a number of years this could be one of them. We'll find out one day...
 
snberk103 said:
I don't see it happening anytime soon… but in general people ditching their computers for portable devices. There will always be a some sort of market for computers …. there are some specialized needs of course. But Apple will either need to dominant that market, or become a niche player in a niche market segment. We know that Apple is not afraid to make dramatic changes… in a number of years this could be one of them. We'll find out one day...
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I think what we're seeing right now isn't just people buying mobile devices to replace their computers. Rather, it's people not feeling the need to upgrade the computer they've already got, but buying a tablet or smartphone to go alongside it.

Who knows what'll happen in the future. I could see a point where tablets could replace laptops very easily. But for now at least, there are still some things that mobile devices can't quite do quite as well as laptops, even when concerning the mainstream market. As as long as that remains the case, we'll always have them around.
 
Renzatic said:
I really don't see Apple getting rid of their computer line anytime soon.
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apple can't do that (and i don't mean-- 'oh, they better not do that'.. i mean they can't)

it's one of those too big to fail situations.. thousands of businesses would go under.. hundreds of thousands of people would be out of work (talking mainly developers/software companies here).. millions of people using macs in some part of their livelihood would be screwed.. etc.

if apple quit making computers, they'd be forced to give up control of OSX.. or at least, they'd have to continue developing it and license it out to other parties.. (or give a 10year warning)

they'll quit making computers eventually.. or, at least computers as we know them today.. when the functionality can be replaced and bettered by newer devices etc, the mac will go.. it's not going to be an overnight thing though.. and it's still a long way to go.. i'd guess at least another 15-20 years for the 2nd iteration of the 'personal computer' to show up.. hopefully it won't be anything like these things we've been using for the past 40 years..

kill the mouse, kill the keyboard, menus/icons/buttons -- done.. ditch the 2d screen, etcetc.. UI and/or how we interact with computers up til now is ridiculously slow.. it's the #1 bottleneck in all of this benchmarky/spec crap... by far.
 
Give me ZFS in 10.10..

And hurry up with 10.9.3, there s a massive list of things to fix still in 10.9 still.
 
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