2012 isn't 2021 and if you don't see how close they are now...you are blind. Cook is talking out of both sides of his mouth like usual. But we all know.....whatever they do....you will defend.
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Apple's Greg Joswiak: No Plans to Merge Mac and iPad
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I don't even know where my iPad Pro is now it's used so little. I lot the Apple Pencil 2 and bought another one and i've not used either - I just like to sort of collect it cos it's Apple but really - i've never thought much of the iPad or iOS. Everytime I try to use it, it's a horrible experiance compared to macOS and the way I very heavily multitask and tab+command all the time through lots of apps. Within about 15 seconds there's something I can't do on it that I need a Mac for - or something that just much much faster and easier to do on the Mac.
But for my 75 year old mum she does everything on an iPad and it's literally perfect for her.
Comes up every year. They are slowly inching towards convergence e.g same cpu, same app sdk. Only a matter of time
Talk for yourself, there's no way i'd be swapping my Air for an iPad.
Many people can’t understand the complexity, from both functional and technical point of view, of doing something like that, then they complain about Apple software quality getting worse lately...
Remember that even with the A series chips, Macs are now on the same architecture as iPhone. This is why my Mac mini can run iOS apps. So we just need to see Apple release Xcode, Final Cut, and Logic on the iPad Pro. Expect this OR "true" multi tasking at WWDC in June. Why else increase the iPad Pro to 16GB of RAM?! On the Mac, they are already universal apps so it really wouldn't take anything to support it on iPad OS.
I really don’t get how it can be that difficult to understand. When on the move, why the hell do we have to carry two screens? Sometimes you want to use a tablet, sometimes you want to attach a trackpad and keyboard and do some work. Many people do need macOS for the latter, for Xcode, some VPN apps, final cut, productivity tools like Alfred, some terminal work and so on. All of these things simply don’t decently work on iPad OS. At the same time, sometimes you want to use a tablet form factor for entertainment or make some document annotations with the pencil. In this scenario you need two devices with exactly the same hardware which is plain stupid.
That is all that matters. This is why I HATE the Windows 10 UI. There are SO MUCH whitespace on my 4K displays due to needing to be geared towards touch interfaces.
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Jesus. Those of you saying that an iPad and a Mac have the same hardware are driving me crazy.
I'd venture to say that the majority of iPad customers love the OS, and the similarity it has to Apple's most successful platform ever and the center of the Apple universe: the iPhone.
Apple putting the unfamiliar macOS on an iPad would effectively alienate iPad customers.
So I really, really doubt they'll do that just to make Mac customers, a much much smaller user base, happy.
I'd venture to say that the majority of iPad customers love the OS, and the similarity it has to Apple's most successful platform ever and the center of the Apple universe: the iPhone.
Apple putting the unfamiliar macOS on an iPad would effectively alienate iPad customers.
So I really, really doubt they'll do that just to make Mac customers, a much much smaller user base, happy.
What "smart" features of macOS have been taken away? How exactly is macOS getting dumbed down? Those are serious questions. I'm not aware of any lost features.
I've not lost the ability to do any of my neuroscience research with each new macOS version. I mostly use Linux because I can take advantage of hundreds of cores on a university cluster but I can do everything on a Mac. Terminal is still there. I can install any software I need to install. Granted, I'm a sample of one but I do some highly specialized work that has not been affected by macOS updates.
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Uh huh. I bet those developers are still hampered by how much the OS has been languishing for years
You bring up a good point, at some point iPadOS has to mature from an extended iOS standpoint. Chances are it will mimic macOS but Apple will never admit it’s a merging but rather a refinement of iPadOS.They said they "won't merge Mac and iPad". They didn't say they "won't give the iPad some macOS app compatibility or macOS inside the iPad while still offering the Mac product lines".
Universal apps seems strange and less useful if its only for iPad / iOS apps inside Macs and not vice versa, especially when we finally got an M1 iPad Pro with ginormous RAM.
Knowing Apple, they are really masters of wordplays.
iPad Pro 2021 has the same hardware power as a Mac the one hardware difference is touch input while the other does not and software is the obvious. I suspect a gradual milking transition of Mac apps being able to run on iPadOS revealed WWDC 2021.
macOS has matured it’s basically receiving minor refinements with every update it is however 20+ years old what more major feature will be added this year.
Apple seriously has to consider merging overlapping product lines as it seems like an environmental waste like that Spotify Car Thing product.
Never believe Apple on these sorts of ‘insights’
For historical reference, Steve Jobs was very dismissive of an iPod phone in an interview, he later unveiled iPhone.
Jobs dismissed optical drives on flat iMac, they later they did it.
Jobs dismissed video on iPods as saying it wasn’t the right form factor, they later did it.
For historical reference, Steve Jobs was very dismissive of an iPod phone in an interview, he later unveiled iPhone.
Jobs dismissed optical drives on flat iMac, they later they did it.
Jobs dismissed video on iPods as saying it wasn’t the right form factor, they later did it.
I would gather about or more than 95% of the hardware is shared with the introduction of the 2021 iPad Pro.
That’s sort of a letdown. I wasn’t expecting a “merging” of the two lines so much as greatly opened up ability to use more comprehensive software.
Apple earlier this week introduced refreshed 11 and 12.9-inch iPad Pro models with few external changes but one notable internal change - the introduction of the same M1 chip that was also used in the MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, and Mac mini refreshes back in November.
Apple marketing chief Greg Joswiak and hardware chief John Ternus this week did an interview with The Independent to talk about the new tablets. The use of an M1 chip in an iPad naturally has led to speculation about the merging of the iPad and Mac lineups, a topic that resurfaces over and over again, but Joswiak says that's not the goal.
Rather than merging the two product lines, he claims that Apple is just trying to make the best products in their respective categories.Ternus added that Apple doesn't aim to limit one device in order to avoid impacting another device. "We're pushing to make the best Mac we can make; we're pushing to make the best iPad we can make," said Ternus.
Apple plans to keep making both products better and is not going to "get all caught up in" theories of "merging or anything like that."
The new iPad Pro models arguably have more power than is necessary for a tablet that does not have the option of pro software like Final Cut Pro, but Ternus and Joswiak declined to comment on software that might be coming in the future. Joswiak instead said that the extra performance gives developers more space to find new ways to expand their apps. "Our developers are pretty quick about taking advantage," he said. "It isn't like it languishes for years."
He also said that it's great for customers to know that they can buy a system "that still has headroom" and won't be "immediately obsolete." As an explanation for why Apple opted for the M1 chip over an A-series chip, Ternus said that the best Apple silicon has "always gone into the iPad Pro," and right now, the M1 is "is the best" Apple silicon Apple has available.
The two also commented on the 12.9-inch iPad Pro's new mini-LED display, which is the highest quality display that's been used in an iPad to date and rivals the Pro Display XDR. Ternus said that shrinking it was a "huge undertaking" that required more LEDs because of the size constraints.
Apple added one other new feature to the iPad Pro -- an Ultra Wide front-facing camera with a new "Center Stage" feature that's designed to allow you to stay in frame while moving about a room. Ternus said that it's "liberating" to be able to move around, and it's also useful for FaceTiming with large groups.
Joswiak and Ternus's full interview contains additional tidbits about the new iPad Pro models, and it can be read over at The Independent.
Article Link: Apple's Greg Joswiak: No Plans to Merge Mac and iPad
I guess I’ll hold off buying until Adobe does something more expansive with LightRoom and Photoshop on the new silicon. Photography field editing is really all I use the iPad for, anyway. Once we can get access to LightRoom’s digital asset management abilities, I’m not sure the new hardware is worth the high cost for my needs.
Yep that is how it works with Apple, downplay any claim then months or years later introduce a product or feature based of that same claim. It’s like they are in a purposeful state of denial for obvious reasons of course.
Not even close. They have 2 completely different softwares. A keyboard can be used on a phone too. Not just an iPad or a laptop.