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Apple's Greg Joswiak on AirPods Growth: 'It Was Almost Like Wildfire'

ArtOfWarfare said:
I leave my phone charging on an iHome playing music - it’s my house, why should I have to wear headphones?
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True - that is much more convenient. The boost in sound quality and/or volume (and maybe privacy) makes it worth plugging it into a speaker or headphones, but I can imagine there’s people perfectly content with just the built-in speaker.
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The thread was about AirPods. If you charge your phone and don't use headphones God bless you.
 
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ct2k7 said:
You’re the first person I’ve heard of who uses earphones to listen to TV, but given it’s early morning, I can see why. You’re now stating that the benefit comes when you’re in the whole ecosystem.



The pairing functionality is the only thing that’s easy, I’ll give it that, but after that is any easier to use than standard BT headphones?

Most people using headphones in the country I’m in use the Sony XM3 or rarely beats. I seldom see people with AirPods / Pros.
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I have the Sony XM3 and I found them to be much better than the AirPod pros, which just don’t have as good NC. It’s also as comfortable as each other.
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I have a few wired on and over the ear headphone, including noise-cancelling. Lately I was eyeing the SONY WH-1000XM3 then the rumored AirPods Studi pops up.
 
Chompineer said:
They do, as Bluetooth is a standard.
But none of them just work like other Apple products. Just bring your case near your phone and bam pair and ready to go. Then you can easily just bring them up near your iPad or Mac (with an app) and they are paired and good to go.

Other headphones are just much less convienent and most consumers don’t know many brand names or trust them.

Not many people are prosumer. Most just buy something on the expectation it will just work and be done with it, and they like to buy as much as they can from a brand they know and trust.
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Other Bluetooth headsets with NFC have no hassle syncing as well.but since apple doesn't allow NFC usage, that only works on android devices.
 
john123 said:
Let's not confuse trapping people into one type of product and then marketing the heck out of your version of it with "being right."
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Well they right that they could get away with it, weren’t they? That is good business planning 101.
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macfacts said:
Other Bluetooth headsets with NFC have no hassle syncing as well.but since apple doesn't allow NFC usage, that only works on android devices.
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Apple does allow NFC APIs for other applications but since they include their own W2 chip in AirPods, there’s no good business reason to use NFC for AirPods.
 
The thing that Apple totally neglects here is we who are not constantly listening to music. I want to listen perhaps once or twice a month. When I mow the lawn, perhaps use when I'm driving a car without HF.
I have a bluetooth headset, but the battery is always empty when I need it. I have a couple of "usable" headphones lying around in my work bag, in my jacket and so on. It's imperative that I can plug it in in an instance and not have to worry about charging or pairing or...
So, I did not buy an iPhone. Actually there was one more thing: dual SIM.
Headphone jack and Dual SIM, those are the main 2 reasons I feel totally left out.
I could get an iPhone from my employer at any time, but since those 2 features are lacking ON ALL MODELS, I have to look elsewhere.
 
wigby said:
Well they right that they could get away with it, weren’t they? That is good business planning 101.
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Hmmm, where have I heard that...

john123 said:
See above. You don't have to be a monopoly to exert absurdly large commercial forces. In this case, removing functionality created a huge market opportunity for them in high margin accessories. That opportunity wouldn't have existed otherwise.
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is what I think many would call a very effective business strategy. I'd agree.

BUT: I'd also call it crappy coming from the company that was the voice of user focused design and usability for so very long.
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Oh yeah.
 
These Apple R&D news really piss me off.
Spend a fortune 3D scanning people's ears.. just to come up with perfectly shaped airpods pro that use rubbish silicone tips. Why on earth they didn't design layered or foam tips is beyond me.


MacRumors said:


Apple's AirPods have been doing better than the company could have ever imagined, Apple's Vice President of Product Marketing Greg Joswiak said in a new report by Wired. Joswiak notes how the growth of AirPods "was almost like wildfire."

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Joswiak touched upon Apple's vision for a wireless future. Apple crossed a pivotal point in its push towards a wireless future with the controversial decision to remove the headphone jack from its iPhone lineup beginning in 2016 with the launch of the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus.



Joswiak also shared some of the development stages of the AirPods lineup.




Apple recently reported its financial results for the second fiscal quarter of 2020, and Apple CEO Tim Cook proudly announced that a quarterly record for wearables had been set. In the first fiscal quarter of 2020, Cook had also announced that Apple's wearables category had set a new all-time revenue record. In addition, it was mentioned that Apple's wearables business is now the size of a Fortune 150 company.

Apple's first generation AirPods were first launched alongside the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus in 2016. Since then, Apple's second-generation AirPods launched in March 2019, while the AirPods Pro were released at the end of October.

Article Link: Apple's Greg Joswiak on AirPods Growth: 'It Was Almost Like Wildfire'
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It was when the transition was first made which speaks to my point that nobody was forced to give anything up. At this point, years into "headphone jack-less iPhones", if someone is buying one they bear the responsibility of knowing what they are getting and making sure it will fit their needs. If I were Apple I wouldn't have given the adapter for free to begin with seeing how the jack being gone wasn't exactly a secret. Would someone buy a DVD player then moan that it doesn't play VHS?
 
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switz said:
Finally got around to buying the second generation AirPods. It was a constant chore to keep them in my ear when driving. I tried the Beats over ear device and returned it as being uncomfortable and not very good sound. So I jumped on the AirPods Pro. Still have issues keeping them my ears, but the noise cancelling is wonderful. I liked the Bose Sound Sport earbuds, but they lacked Siri capability and had short battery life.
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Earphones while driving sounds pretty dangerous to me.
 
macfacts said:
Other Bluetooth headsets with NFC have no hassle syncing as well.but since apple doesn't allow NFC usage, that only works on android devices.
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The point some are trying to make is you only need to "pair" to one device once and your other idevices use the pairing information from icloud. Don't have to figure out if a devices has NFC.
 
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farewelwilliams said:
properly winding up the wire before putting away is a painful task.

i put on/take off my AirPods over 10 times a day. i would never do that with wired headphones because it’s just too much work.
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To each their own. Personally I have zero complaints there.
 
szw-mapple fan said:
Yes you're right. I've updated my comment. The (very old) article I was referencing was actually comparing 128 and 256.
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Nice! I tested some songs in my library a while ago and I can sometimes hear a slight difference between 192 and lossless but not consistently at all. I’m sure everybody is unique in that regard and age won’t help :)
 
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ryanwarsaw said:
The thread was about AirPods. If you charge your phone and don't use headphones God bless you.
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If we want to talk about headphones and charging we can revisit the iPhone 7 and talk about how retarded it is that Apple merged the two ports into one. Justifying AirPods with that is like saying you're a good friend because you put a bandaid over the wound after shooting your friend.
 
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bollman said:
The thing that Apple totally neglects here is we who are not constantly listening to music. I want to listen perhaps once or twice a month. When I mow the lawn, perhaps use when I'm driving a car without HF.
I have a bluetooth headset, but the battery is always empty when I need it. I have a couple of "usable" headphones lying around in my work bag, in my jacket and so on. It's imperative that I can plug it in in an instance and not have to worry about charging or pairing or...
So, I did not buy an iPhone. Actually there was one more thing: dual SIM.
Headphone jack and Dual SIM, those are the main 2 reasons I feel totally left out.
I could get an iPhone from my employer at any time, but since those 2 features are lacking ON ALL MODELS, I have to look elsewhere.
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Have to is a bit harsh. You can easily live with the provided headphone adapter and leave it connected to that headphone that you only use every now and then.
 
ericwn said:
Have to is a bit harsh. You can easily live with the provided headphone adapter and leave it connected to that headphone that you only use every now and then.
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Poster also wanted dual sim. OP is not in the target market for iphone for various reasons, and probably will never be.
 
Until AirPods are offered at a competitive price (ie not £200), I'll happily stick with wired EarBuds, especially as I do a lot of running where taking them out for periods is a must. I'm sure Greg Joswiak has all the right sales data but earphones both wired and wireless is a competitive market and I personally don't see a huge number of AirPods about. I suppose its like the Apple Watch, its hugely popular and the growth has been evident over the past 3 years and I've known more and more people getting them. However most iPhones users don't have one. Its all relative I suppose :)
 
ericwn said:
Why do these owners need luck?
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Well, I just meant it in the vernacular, as a saying. As in 'I wish you good luck generally, regardless of any differences of opinion we might have on wireless headphones'.

I could have said 'live and let live' and then presumably someone would be asking me to explain why there is any question of living and is it not redundant to let live if one is already living... :p :D

But... seeing as you ask, I suppose I could answer more literally, and say that:
a) With a global pandemic right now, perhaps we should all wish each other good luck.
b) With AirPods specifically, the batteries will eventually run down, and there is some possibility one might lose one or both of the earphones down a drain or some other hard to recover place, so good luck to you as I wouldn't wish that to happen to anyone. :)

Finally, it's just nice to wish people good luck, isn't it? We live in a world where no matter how much order we strive for, no matter how much planning and forethought we may put into our lives, seemingly random events can and do occur and we all have to live with some amount of chaos and fortune involved. So good luck to you too. :)
 
I7guy said:
Poster also wanted dual sim. OP is not in the target market for iphone for various reasons, and probably will never be.
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All current iPhones allow nano-SIM + eSIM as pseudo-dual-SIM.

I could've sworn there was also an iPhone variant that allowed two physical nano-SIMs on top of each other. Maybe that was the China-only XR version?
 
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