Haha I have students not understanding why they can’t keep them in their ears during class.
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Apple's Greg Joswiak on AirPods Growth: 'It Was Almost Like Wildfire'
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Oh for God's sake we are now in the THIRD decade of the 21st century... THERE 👏 SHOULD BE 👏 LESS 👏 WIRES 👏
Especially when it comes to mobile devices. If it's that bloody important to you to have a nasty, multi-wire mess hanging out of your phone then switch to Android. Competition is a good thing, and in case you forgot, the iPhone isn't your only choice in the smartphone market
Lord, here we are again. "If you don't like every single thing about this product that I like, take your marbles and go to someone else's home!"
Also you're framed this as a false comparison. No one "wants" wires. Of course no one "wants" wires. What some of us do want are the advantages that come with the disadvantages of things that have wires. This has been explained ad nauseam, and it renders false comparisons like yours meaningless.
So much snark! People who use wired headphones may care about bitrate, or they may care about other things — again, which have been covered in this thread and you're conveniently ignoring. Also, who are you or I or anyone to tell other people how they should and shouldn't use their products? (Answer: we aren't.)
And for the record, I hate my AirPods Pro for working out. I've tried both sizes in my ears, and they don't stay in for me. I'm not the only with this problem either.
Pretty good opinion piece here: https://www.fastcompany.com/90270691/i-still-miss-my-headphone-jack-and-i-want-it-back. But my 4 reasons are:
- Because it relies on a lightning connector, the firm part of that connector protrudes much further out from the phone than the typical headphone jack
- It goes outward at a 180 degree angle. Many headphones, especially those for running and gym use, have their connector take an immediate 90 degree turn to minimize overall device profile.
- By placing the connection on the center rather than the side, you lost the ability to sit the iPhone down on an elevated edge upright, such as the edge of a laptop screen. I used to do this all the time to make FaceBook calls and not have to hold my phone.
- It's yet another dangling dongle that's hard to keep up with and easy to lose.
Interesting. I haven't had any of those problems with my wired earbuds. It's almost like...different people use different products in different ways! Whodda thunk it?!
You say "Freedom from wires was what I was looking" and then say "people of the internet would love to make memes." I have some news. We people of the internet — who it sounds like are the people who don't have the priority you do — do not just make memes. We of the Internet just have different priorities.
Amazing irony: starting off talking about logic, and then invoking the logical fallacy known as false dichotomy. There's good progress, and then there's annoying changes. There are things that move life forward, and then there are things done for no particularly good reason other than to pad corporate coffers.
Gross margins are about 60%, give or take.
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I already answered this. I guess I'm a sucker for the marketing and the brand. I've been hoodwinked. I'm yet another Apple lemming (within reason, however).
Edit: oh and for clarity, I've already said that it's a very good product.
Very well said. Lots of opinions just simply go against options. Having both was fine before and the same folks weren’t complaining back then.
Apple F'd up one thing. They should have by now included the basic Airpods in most iPhone products.
But that's greed for you, give you nearly unusable headphones instead if your phone needs charging.
It literally rips off customers.
Would you be willing to pay significantly more for these wireless ones being included?
I never like using over-ear headphones except for when I'm at home, I didn't want to use the adapter anymore for my Bose QC20 so I purchased the first generation AirPods. They were great in terms of convenience but not the best sound quality, picked up the AirPods Pro because of the noise cancelling feature and they're much better in sound quality but the noise cancelling is not as good as the Bose QC20. Hopefully the next generation is much better.
I could see people struggling with 128 vs 192 kbit/s but 64 vs 256? Do you have more details on this?
I guess there’s always going to be compromises with this large a target audience. On top of that, ear shapes seem to slightly change with time. My left AirPod needs to be manually tilted deeper in my ear canal to hear it better. Much improved now with the Pros.
It will be interesting with iPhones going forward and the wired headphones that come with every single one that Greg Joswiak was making fun of with his comments. Will they eventually stop shipping with a headphone? Will they include a lower priced AirPod light and raise the price slightly?
These are nice, but why in God's green earth do they still only come in white? Doesn't make sense, except as a marketing ploy; they hold out to get greater sales later, which is dern sneaky if true.
Similar to people whining about USB-A. And optical drives, DVI, SCSI, floppy disks, and on and on.
And there's those who get a major case of the shakes anytime Apple achieves spectacular success with a product. Yeah, but no wires sucks!
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There should be fewer wires and more batteries in landfills? More plastic devices in landfills? Yeah, that totally makes sense.Oh for God's sake we are now in the THIRD decade of the 21st century... THERE 👏 SHOULD BE 👏 LESS 👏 WIRES 👏
Especially when it comes to mobile devices. If it's that bloody important to you to have a nasty, multi-wire mess hanging out of your phone then switch to Android. Competition is a good thing, and in case you forgot, the iPhone isn't your only choice in the smartphone market
Also, AirPods are primarily for phone calls, running and working out, casual listening, that sort of thing (weren't the original wired earbuds intended/used for these things as well?). If you're more concerned with the bitrate of your audio transmission during these activities, then I hate to tell you this but you're doing them wrong.. Maybe pay more attention to the task at hand?
Bottom line - and serious question - who are all you people producing albums in a studio with $2 worth of plastic in your ears for monitoring?
I’ve had a pair that I got the year the originals came out and I have loved them. My only complaints are that the battery life has gone down hill and since the batteries cannot be replaced when I get a new pair the old ones basically go in the trash and that seems kind of crazy for a fairly expensive product.
Not sure where you people live, but in the good ol’ U.S. of A. so many people have them that they couldn’t possibly be status symbols. People buy them because they work well, sound decent, look good, and are super convenient. Is it that difficult to understand?
That’s crazy ! Good for them. But let’s make these in America. No more China !
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I got the pros and they dont fit right !
I didn't imagine this product would be so successful, people complain about Apple dongle prices but here we have earphones that cost $130 extra just because it does not have wires. While I can see why- some- might want it I am surprised how it turned out to be the standard. I already found Apple Earpods at $30 very expensive. Now imagine losing one of those Airpods.
I guess people have a lot more money than they seem to complain about. Honestly, kudos to Apple.
I guess people have a lot more money than they seem to complain about. Honestly, kudos to Apple.
if you use your bluetooth headphones with one device exclusively, then any BT5 headphone pretty much just works. but if you want to switch devices easily, the fact that apple has the paring info for airpods in icloud makes switching devices very, very easy.
try switching your generic BT headphones to your apple TV or apple watch. heck, just try pairing them when they are already paired to your phone. both are an exercise in frustration. with the airpods i just go into a menu on the target device, say connect, and i'm listening to the appleTV or apple watch thru the airpods with no other intervention on my part.
I never got this to work with my AirPods, neither did my fiance. For us, trying to switch was an exercise in frustration. I guess it only works well in the Apple ecosystem.
The current and ongoing success would probably be impossible as most other countries cannot produce the scale Apple requires in order to be successful.
